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Post by The Escapist on Sept 20, 2021 14:09:37 GMT -5
I said multiple times you're entitled to your opinions and that you can share them at will. I agree with many of them! My point is that repeatedly posting the same opinion in more or less the same way, often when barely prompted by an actual event, can be tiresome when it becomes clear that the mindset of neither you nor the band will change any time soon. We're good for the "I remember when Coldplay were indie and cool, then 30 Year Old Virgin, then they started being pop (list of pop collabs), I'm not a fan of it" post for a while. It's not that you're wrong or wrong to say it, we're just good for a bit. Ultimately, it's a shame that the band just released one of their most beautiful singles, and I can predict with Nostradamus accuracy which members here are going to be posting things that are nothing to do with that, but finding something they don't like to talk about instead. "The band haven't given me much to talk about musically" is a stunning sentence to say in the wake of a release of a ten-minute-long single that most fans have been discussing in great depth. I'd like to hear your full thoughts on Coloratura! It's one of the most unique things they've ever done and we've had two sentences from you, after about fifteen full posts about Parlophone's release strategy. Maybe because it doesn't fit the story I outlined, it gets relegated to passing compliments and quick mentions, whereas things that do fit the story get full and magnified reviews. You say your thoughts had already been posted, but I'm pretty sure "DAE Coldplay too pop now" is a point of view that doesn't need any more repetition, either - it'd be far more interesting and far less tiresome to have your fleshed-out thoughts on the latest single than another re-telling of the "How Coldplay Went Pop and I Didn't Like It" story. Don't you agree? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 20, 2021 15:06:28 GMT -5
I said multiple times you're entitled to your opinions and that you can share them at will. I agree with many of them! My point is that repeatedly posting the same opinion in more or less the same way, often when barely prompted by an actual event, can be tiresome when it becomes clear that the mindset of neither you nor the band will change any time soon. We're good for the "I remember when Coldplay were indie and cool, then 30 Year Old Virgin, then they started being pop (list of pop collabs), I'm not a fan of it" post for a while. It's not that you're wrong or wrong to say it, we're just good for a bit. Ultimately, it's a shame that the band just released one of their most beautiful singles, and I can predict with Nostradamus accuracy which members here are going to be posting things that are nothing to do with that, but finding something they don't like to talk about instead. "The band haven't given me much to talk about musically" is a stunning sentence to say in the wake of a release of a ten-minute-long single that most fans have been discussing in great depth. I'd like to hear your full thoughts on Coloratura! It's one of the most unique things they've ever done and we've had two sentences from you, after about fifteen full posts about Parlophone's release strategy. Maybe because it doesn't fit the story I outlined, it gets relegated to passing compliments and quick mentions, whereas things that do fit the story get full and magnified reviews. You say your thoughts had already been posted, but I'm pretty sure "DAE Coldplay too pop now" is a point of view that doesn't need any more repetition, either - it'd be far more interesting and far less tiresome to have your fleshed-out thoughts on the latest single than another re-telling of the "How Coldplay Went Pop and I Didn't Like It" story. Don't you agree? A lot of the posts that irk you were the 4 month gap between Higher Power and Colortura. When they did nothing but flog the song endlessly and offer about a dozen remixes and 3-4 official videos. Now that is tiring!!!! I don’t get promoting an album 4-5 months before the actual announcement. If you aren’t ready for it. Just hang back. Does it bother you I never posted my review of that song? I also never posted my review of Liam’s second album. Thought I did but never actually hit submit. I should do it now just for shit and giggles. Nobody calls me out for commenting on Liam album 2 despite me not posting a review of it. Don’t think I even posted review of Noel’s two new songs either. Liked them both. Very good but maybe not excellent. Sometimes life gets in the way and I forget to circle back. Again I don’t hate Coldplay pop. Orphans is fantastic. That is nailing it. I think it has a lot to do with being a band focused track IMO. I really do like Colortura. Is it bold? Sure. Does it have cool sonic energy? Of course. I listened to it a ton the first two weeks of release but strangely not a lot since. Not sure why. I know it’s not a single single but I haven’t really seen it catch on outside the Coldplay blogs and forums. It’s definitely not going to be a crossover anthem like a November Rain, Champagne Supernova or All My Friends to name but a few of long ass bangers where the song is so strong it won’t be contained regardless of single status or radio/tv promotion. There are a bunch of points in the song that make me feel like it’s about to morph into “Moving To Mars” which is a song I’ve always loved. Not saying that is a bad thing. In the album trailer I said that Disney like production was my highlight of the album teaser. I know I was definitely turned off by coldplay Reddit folks constantly saying it was the “Hey Jude” or “A Day In The Life” of our generation. That is a bit much and smells of recency bias. |
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Post by glider on Sept 20, 2021 15:11:08 GMT -5
I said multiple times you're entitled to your opinions and that you can share them at will. I agree with many of them! My point is that repeatedly posting the same opinion in more or less the same way, often when barely prompted by an actual event, can be tiresome when it becomes clear that the mindset of neither you nor the band will change any time soon. We're good for the "I remember when Coldplay were indie and cool, then 30 Year Old Virgin, then they started being pop (list of pop collabs), I'm not a fan of it" post for a while. It's not that you're wrong or wrong to say it, we're just good for a bit. Ultimately, it's a shame that the band just released one of their most beautiful singles, and I can predict with Nostradamus accuracy which members here are going to be posting things that are nothing to do with that, but finding something they don't like to talk about instead. "The band haven't given me much to talk about musically" is a stunning sentence to say in the wake of a release of a ten-minute-long single that most fans have been discussing in great depth. I'd like to hear your full thoughts on Coloratura! It's one of the most unique things they've ever done and we've had two sentences from you, after about fifteen full posts about Parlophone's release strategy. Maybe because it doesn't fit the story I outlined, it gets relegated to passing compliments and quick mentions, whereas things that do fit the story get full and magnified reviews. You say your thoughts had already been posted, but I'm pretty sure "DAE Coldplay too pop now" is a point of view that doesn't need any more repetition, either - it'd be far more interesting and far less tiresome to have your fleshed-out thoughts on the latest single than another re-telling of the "How Coldplay Went Pop and I Didn't Like It" story. Don't you agree? I mean...it's a forum, if people repeatedly express their opinions multiple times in the same thread, regurgitating the same talking points as you're saying - if nothing they say violates terms of service...who cares? Every Noel/Liam/Oasis thread on this site will have a 10-15 page spell on the same boring talking points about Liam vs Noel, I wish Noel stopped doing cosmic pop, Noel needs to do more cosmic pop, Liam needs to take risks, Liam needs to do this, do that, is chocolate cake better than vanilla cake - I just ignore it. It seems like the Coldplay posts bother you. |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 20, 2021 16:15:21 GMT -5
I said multiple times you're entitled to your opinions and that you can share them at will. I agree with many of them! My point is that repeatedly posting the same opinion in more or less the same way, often when barely prompted by an actual event, can be tiresome when it becomes clear that the mindset of neither you nor the band will change any time soon. We're good for the "I remember when Coldplay were indie and cool, then 30 Year Old Virgin, then they started being pop (list of pop collabs), I'm not a fan of it" post for a while. It's not that you're wrong or wrong to say it, we're just good for a bit. Ultimately, it's a shame that the band just released one of their most beautiful singles, and I can predict with Nostradamus accuracy which members here are going to be posting things that are nothing to do with that, but finding something they don't like to talk about instead. "The band haven't given me much to talk about musically" is a stunning sentence to say in the wake of a release of a ten-minute-long single that most fans have been discussing in great depth. I'd like to hear your full thoughts on Coloratura! It's one of the most unique things they've ever done and we've had two sentences from you, after about fifteen full posts about Parlophone's release strategy. Maybe because it doesn't fit the story I outlined, it gets relegated to passing compliments and quick mentions, whereas things that do fit the story get full and magnified reviews. You say your thoughts had already been posted, but I'm pretty sure "DAE Coldplay too pop now" is a point of view that doesn't need any more repetition, either - it'd be far more interesting and far less tiresome to have your fleshed-out thoughts on the latest single than another re-telling of the "How Coldplay Went Pop and I Didn't Like It" story. Don't you agree? I mean...it's a forum, if people repeatedly express their opinions multiple times in the same thread, regurgitating the same talking points as you're saying - if nothing they say violates terms of service...who cares? Every Noel/Liam/Oasis thread on this site will have a 10-15 page spell on the same boring talking points about Liam vs Noel, I wish Noel stopped doing cosmic pop, Noel needs to do more cosmic pop, Liam needs to take risks, Liam needs to do this, do that, is chocolate cake better than vanilla cake - I just ignore it. It seems like the Coldplay posts bother you. Bother is a strong word, but I do think it's pretty tiring to have the same story told and retold in the thread - you're right about Liam and Noel, of course, and that is still boring, but there's a wealth of other posts in those threads because they're full of activity. It can be a bit of a drag to have a less active thread consistently updated with the same thing, especially when that thing revolves around the concept of having not actually been into the band's sound for nearly a decade. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 20, 2021 16:34:43 GMT -5
They released a snippet.
Very poppy, but at least the hook is catchy.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 20, 2021 16:38:50 GMT -5
And yes, I do know the thread will be full of "Coldplay Pop Bad" takes when My Universe comes out  I'll allow it, I can imagine if I was an Oldplayer that a BTS collab would give me heart palpitations, lol. My takes on the snippet is that it's very much cut from the same cloth as Higher Power - synth pop with a sticky chorus, uplifting-but-cliched lyrics, and possibly weaker melodies around the hook. Like Higher Power, I think it'll get the job done and be a fun little pop song, but no chance of it standing out as one of the stronger songs on the record. Coloratura and Human Heart both bring a lot more to the table in terms of sound, ambition, and lyrics. Looking forward to dancing to it, though! |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 20, 2021 17:41:51 GMT -5
And yes, I do know the thread will be full of "Coldplay Pop Bad" takes when My Universe comes out I'll allow it, I can imagine if I was an Oldplayer that a BTS collab would give me heart palpitations, lol. My takes on the snippet is that it's very much cut from the same cloth as Higher Power - synth pop with a sticky chorus, uplifting-but-cliched lyrics, and possibly weaker melodies around the hook. Like Higher Power, I think it'll get the job done and be a fun little pop song, but no chance of it standing out as one of the stronger songs on the record. Coloratura and Human Heart both bring a lot more to the table in terms of sound, ambition, and lyrics. Looking forward to dancing to it, though! For me Higher Power was just boring. I think it lacks a hook. To be fair, I didn't give it beyond a couple listens and have not revisited it for months because of how hard they pushed it. For their previous record, I initially wrote the whole thing off and then awhile back found myself really enjoying it. |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 20, 2021 17:47:32 GMT -5
My takes on the snippet is that it's very much cut from the same cloth as Higher Power - synth pop with a sticky chorus, uplifting-but-cliched lyrics, and possibly weaker melodies around the hook. Like Higher Power, I think it'll get the job done and be a fun pop song, but no chance of it standing out as one of the stronger songs on the record. Coloratura and Human Heart both bring a lot more to the table in terms of sound, ambition, and lyrics. Looking forward to dancing to it, though! For me Higher Power was just boring. I think it lacks a hook. To be fair, I didn't give it beyond a couple listens and have not revisited it for months because of how hard they pushed it. For their previous record, I initially wrote the whole thing off and then awhile back found myself really enjoying it. Lacks a hook! Fair play, that's a unique take on Higher Power. Most people say it has the hook but lacks the bridge, which is my take. I made a version of it with some added guitar and edited the weaker melodies cut down, if you're interested - I've gone back to that a few times. I love the beat, the production, the verses and the chorus. Don't like the middle-eight and bridge at all. Laziness from Chris. Lyrics are alright. Overall, it's a 7/10 for me. Does exactly what it needs to in order to be a catchy pop banger, and literally nothing past that. Doesn't touch their best pop work, but it's enjoyable when it's on. My Universe sounds to be a similar quality level. 1. Coloratura 2. Human Heart 3. My Universe 4. Higher Power ...That's how I'm feeling what we've heard so far. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2021 7:41:20 GMT -5
I wonder why coldplay is going all in on the CD format for their singles this go around. Vinyl shortage? I guess. Talk about a dead format. Neither of my two cars or laptops even have a CD player anymore. Even if I got a CD where would I play it? My old blu ray player? At least it’s not cassettes! Ha!!!!!!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2021 13:35:04 GMT -5
Colortura live on Howard Stern yesterday. Should be a definitive highlight from the upcoming tour.
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Post by matt on Sept 23, 2021 15:26:06 GMT -5
My dividing line of Oldplay vs Newplay is in 2014 with Ghost Stories. I think “A Sky Full of Stars” is their jump the shark pop moment. Sure the transition started around 2008 but they were still mostly an alt rock band making colorful art music between 2008-2012. Next would come endless pop star collaborations and celebrity name checks that the band has not really backed down from outside the more gentle Everyday Life. It’s like a totally different band. Im along for the journey because I’ve been with this band since June 2000 but if their discography was the reverse I’m not sure id pay them much attention. Very Maroon 5. - Avicii - Beyoncé - Tove Lo - Stargate - Chainsmokers - BTS - Max Martin They've done literally two albums since then, and one of them was arguably the most experimental record they've ever produced. Their last release was a ten-minute-long prog-pop ballad. In that time, they've also worked with Jon Hopkins, Noel Gallagher, Stormrae, Jacob Collier, and Norah Shaqur. They've embraced more pop sounds over time, of course, but they've also embraced a lot of other sounds too - it's called growth. They've never been a more musically varied band than they have been over the last three years. If you don't like the new sounds, that's fine - like Chris said, no-one ate Parachutes. You can go back and listen to it and bask in the warm glow of memories. But that doesn't inform anyone else's opinions on them now. I'll tell you what's funny, though - how much this imaginary "Oldplay/Newplay" line changes over time. It used to be 100% accepted that Viva was the start of Newplay. Then it was Mylo. Now, apparently, it's A Sky Full of Stars. It seems that as Mylo ages well and people come to look back on it favorably, the lines have to be redrawn so that it magically becomes an Oldplay record - despite sounding as far away from the likes of Parachutes as it's possible to get. Everyday Life has a hell of a lot more in common with their old stuff. As does Ghost Stories. Because the whole idea that Coldplay woke up one day and became Maroon 5 is the kind of nonsense that withers into smoke after about five second's thought. I get the feeling that one day we'll be sat here talking about how Newplay really started with Hymn for the Weekend, because of how Ghost Stories is already coming to be seen as the gorgeous alt-pop break-up record that it was all along. Coldplay have always been at war with Eastasia. Finally, I'm not being funny, but do you think Coldplay are the band for you anymore? Every time you post on this thread, I ask myself "What complaint is it today?". If it's not the artwork, it's the promotion. If it's not the promotion, it's the lyrics. If it's not the lyrics, it's the collaborations. I find it telling that when a song like Higher Power was released to a mixed reception, you were posting thoughts about it multiple times a day. When Coloratura was released to universal acclaim, you made one comment on it and dipped. It feels like you're in this weird relationship where you haven't loved the band for over a decade, but still feel compelled to comment on everything they do, seemingly deriving more pleasure from putting down the things you don't like than celebrating the things that you do. I can't tell you how to spend your time, and I have no doubt that you're a fan who loves a lot of their stuff - and I agree with a lot of your critiques! Particularly of their sound becoming more Chris-centric over time. But there's no shame to admit that where their path has taken them is no longer for you. But, they're still a fabulously talented band who's last record was an incredibly experimental album. And about a month ago, they made one of the most ambitious songs of the year. I feel like if you accept that, yes, shock horror - Chris enjoys pop music like Avicci and BTS, and accept that all that stuff will not be your thing, there's still a lot to enjoy even for indie-Coldplay fans. Oasis were long-dead at this point in their career. Decades past their best work, and acrimonious. Coldplay are still here, still talented, still making impassioned music in a variety of sounds. The bright side is bright enough for you to not dwell on the negatives, if you choose. I pretty much agree here (btw, congratulations Lennon2217 on the little one, I do hope you christened him Dave after our favourite producer). While I'm coming at it from a distance in that the direction is not really my bag (to the point I'm casually following this album cycle), I do appreciate the continued success with it and ability to capture new generations in a way that doesn't seem cynical like other acts (U2 for instance). I've always said the poppy version of Coldplay is not the problem - tunes like Hymn For The Weekend do the job, and while I'm not going to listen to it intentionally, if I was an A&R man, I'd be pointing at it saying this is the stuff that hits are made of. It's not shit, it's just not my thing. The major criticism I had with new Coldplay was the extremely insipid and lightweight songs that filled out Head Full of Dreams - I mean stuff like Everglow and Amazing Day are abominations that deserves all the criticism it gets. This is something I think was starting to rear its head on Ghost Stories with some fluffy stuff with shallow lyrics. Did not like it at all, so when tunes like Sky Full of Stars and Hymn for the Weekend blast out after a succession of dirges, they actually seem somewhat refreshing. So as far as I'm concerned, fill this new album with collaborations simply in the hope it stops Chris Martin writing such sentimental crap ever again. All the while, we bang on about their styles here and they release a song like Coloratura. To have the ambition to do so in today's pop world is really cool, and proof that they really do still cater for needs beyond the usual pop bands of today. Now I'm just waiting for them to write an album full of Gaelic laments. |
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Post by glider on Sept 23, 2021 16:09:23 GMT -5
They've done literally two albums since then, and one of them was arguably the most experimental record they've ever produced. Their last release was a ten-minute-long prog-pop ballad. In that time, they've also worked with Jon Hopkins, Noel Gallagher, Stormrae, Jacob Collier, and Norah Shaqur. They've embraced more pop sounds over time, of course, but they've also embraced a lot of other sounds too - it's called growth. They've never been a more musically varied band than they have been over the last three years. If you don't like the new sounds, that's fine - like Chris said, no-one ate Parachutes. You can go back and listen to it and bask in the warm glow of memories. But that doesn't inform anyone else's opinions on them now. I'll tell you what's funny, though - how much this imaginary "Oldplay/Newplay" line changes over time. It used to be 100% accepted that Viva was the start of Newplay. Then it was Mylo. Now, apparently, it's A Sky Full of Stars. It seems that as Mylo ages well and people come to look back on it favorably, the lines have to be redrawn so that it magically becomes an Oldplay record - despite sounding as far away from the likes of Parachutes as it's possible to get. Everyday Life has a hell of a lot more in common with their old stuff. As does Ghost Stories. Because the whole idea that Coldplay woke up one day and became Maroon 5 is the kind of nonsense that withers into smoke after about five second's thought. I get the feeling that one day we'll be sat here talking about how Newplay really started with Hymn for the Weekend, because of how Ghost Stories is already coming to be seen as the gorgeous alt-pop break-up record that it was all along. Coldplay have always been at war with Eastasia. Finally, I'm not being funny, but do you think Coldplay are the band for you anymore? Every time you post on this thread, I ask myself "What complaint is it today?". If it's not the artwork, it's the promotion. If it's not the promotion, it's the lyrics. If it's not the lyrics, it's the collaborations. I find it telling that when a song like Higher Power was released to a mixed reception, you were posting thoughts about it multiple times a day. When Coloratura was released to universal acclaim, you made one comment on it and dipped. It feels like you're in this weird relationship where you haven't loved the band for over a decade, but still feel compelled to comment on everything they do, seemingly deriving more pleasure from putting down the things you don't like than celebrating the things that you do. I can't tell you how to spend your time, and I have no doubt that you're a fan who loves a lot of their stuff - and I agree with a lot of your critiques! Particularly of their sound becoming more Chris-centric over time. But there's no shame to admit that where their path has taken them is no longer for you. But, they're still a fabulously talented band who's last record was an incredibly experimental album. And about a month ago, they made one of the most ambitious songs of the year. I feel like if you accept that, yes, shock horror - Chris enjoys pop music like Avicci and BTS, and accept that all that stuff will not be your thing, there's still a lot to enjoy even for indie-Coldplay fans. Oasis were long-dead at this point in their career. Decades past their best work, and acrimonious. Coldplay are still here, still talented, still making impassioned music in a variety of sounds. The bright side is bright enough for you to not dwell on the negatives, if you choose. I pretty much agree here (btw, congratulations Lennon2217 on the little one, I do hope you christened him Dave after our favourite producer). While I'm coming at it from a distance in that the direction is not really my bag (to the point I'm casually following this album cycle), I do appreciate the continued success with it and ability to capture new generations in a way that doesn't seem cynical like other acts (U2 for instance). I've always said the poppy version of Coldplay is not the problem - tunes like Hymn For The Weekend do the job, and while I'm not going to listen to it intentionally, if I was an A&R man, I'd be pointing at it saying this is the stuff that hits are made of. It's not shit, it's just not my thing. The major criticism I had with new Coldplay was the extremely insipid and lightweight songs that filled out Head Full of Dreams - I mean stuff like Everglow and Amazing Day are abominations that deserves all the criticism it gets. This is something I think was starting to rear its head on Ghost Stories with some fluffy stuff with shallow lyrics. Did not like it at all, so when tunes like Sky Full of Stars and Hymn for the Weekend blast out after a succession of dirges, they actually seem somewhat refreshing. So as far as I'm concerned, fill this new album with collaborations simply in the hope it stops Chris Martin writing such sentimental crap ever again. All the while, we bang on about their styles here and they release a song like Coloratura. To have the ambition to do so in today's pop world is really cool, and proof that they really do still cater for needs beyond the usual pop bands of today. Now I'm just waiting for them to write an album full of Gaelic laments. I'm not going to pretend I like Hymn For The Weekend. It's a well-crafted mid 2010s pop song that did the job it was tasked with doing, but I have no interest in hearing it again. Head Full of Dreams is just not a good album - full of bloated MOR pop production and shitty platitudes with a couple of bright spots (Up&Up is fine but overrated, always liked Birds). |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 23, 2021 17:06:21 GMT -5
I've always said the poppy version of Coldplay is not the problem.The major criticism I had with new Coldplay was the extremely insipid and lightweight songs that filled out Head Full of Dreams - I mean stuff like Everglow and Amazing Day are abominations that deserves all the criticism it gets. Spot on. I know I'm someone who enjoys a lot of modern chart-pop sounds in the first place (I think BTS are a talented collective with real potential), but the songs that an indie-forum such as this might hate - A Sky Full of Stars, Hymn for the Weekend, My Universe - are not what I'm scared of for Music of the Spheres. As you say, it's songs like Amazing Day that need to be avoided at all costs. Schmaltzy, cruise-ship instrumentals with milquetoast melodies. Fun is another one. Two of the worst songs the band have ever done. My Universe won't be the new Viva la Vida, but at least it sounds like a vibrant and confident song with some rich production and a sense of joy to it. Give me that any day over the second half of AHFOD. Another angle on why I enjoy their recent pop-focused material is that, ridden with clichés as they might be, I much prefer this lyrical take on love to the one that they had from 2000-2005. So many songs, particularly on Parachutes and X&Y, are hard for me to enjoy because of the cloying and self-pitying love lyrics. Shiver is unlistenable because of them. Even a sweet song like Sparks or Parachutes, or What If, they all make me want to clip Chris round the ear and either go "She's not into you, mate" or "Just go and fucking talk to her, then". Songs like Birds or Hymn for the Weekend present a much more romantic and celebratory take on love that I prefer. So, yeah, I'm fine with the collaborations and the pop sounds. It's not the only thing they're doing, and as long as it's not insipid or self-pitying, they have no chance of being in the weaker annals of their material. And I don't know, this sounds like a fun collab with a good chorus and a colourful sound. Looking forward to it: |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2021 21:48:02 GMT -5
People of The Pride spoiler........LIVE from the Apollo. (Contains song from the deep past)
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Post by glider on Sept 23, 2021 22:49:17 GMT -5
People of The Pride spoiler........LIVE from the Apollo. (Contains song from the deep past) The Man Who Swears? This slaps. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2021 23:40:57 GMT -5
People of The Pride spoiler........LIVE from the Apollo. (Contains song from the deep past) The Man Who Swears? This slaps. Chris called it "a big gay metal anthem". |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2021 23:41:08 GMT -5
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 24, 2021 5:24:40 GMT -5
Well...
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 24, 2021 5:49:03 GMT -5
What can you say, it's a bop.
This feels like a complete pop song in the ways that Higher Power wasn't. Verse, bridge, chorus, middle-eight, outro - all present and correct, all instantly melodic. The chorus here is more dynamic than Higher Power's, but it's the bridge that makes it; the melody from BTS that comes in at 0:37 and 2:22 is gorgeous. So much better than that lazy "come on, come on, ohhh" from Higher Power. The bridge is explosive, and the way the rap verse flows with BTS harmonizing with themselves is nicely done. Outro is wild. Production is pretty much perfect. You can hear the band in the verses, and BTS do a good job adding to the track without overshadowing it. My biggest criticism is that tacky robot voice they kept in, feels like a bad hangover from 2012 pop. The call-and-return vocals in the chorus also sound cheap compared to the luscious sound of everything else - reminds me of the "heys!" from Shockwave, and that's not a good thing. On first listens, 7.5/10 with the chance of slipping half a point either side, I think. So far, here's how we're shaping up for me:
1. Coloratura (9.5/10)
2. Human Heart (8/10)
3. My Universe (7.5/10)
4. Higher Power (7/10)
The intro ambience sounds gorgeous, and I won't be listening to People of the Pride until the album comes out.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 24, 2021 6:05:16 GMT -5
Pop music forums are fucking ecstatic for it. Much more so than for Higher Power.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 24, 2021 8:02:23 GMT -5
Pop music forums are fucking ecstatic for it. Much more so than for Higher Power. I think it's dogshit, but I too thought it had more purpose than Higher Power, which is insipid at best I can see it doing well as a hit |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 24, 2021 8:12:56 GMT -5
Pop music forums are fucking ecstatic for it. Much more so than for Higher Power. I think it's dogshit, but I too thought it had more purpose than Higher Power, which is insipid at best I can see it doing well as a hit I'd be shocked if it doesn't hit at least a decent amount - reaction has been overwhelmingly positive from pop fans, and the lyric video is getting millions of views every hour. BTS pull is obviously massive, but I feel they have the song to back it up here. This is a chart-pop hit done right for me, vibrant and constantly melodic, it's gonna make stadiums explode when the time comes. Just wish you could take out that horrible robot voice. Side-note, Chris' vocals sound a lot more impassioned here than on Higher Power. He sounds up for this one. Side-side-note, The Man Who Swears was first written in 2006! Wonder if Chris has been to Tesco's recently. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 24, 2021 8:38:37 GMT -5
Well this was to be expected when Max Martin was announced as producer and co-writer for this album. You don’t bring in Max if you aren’t looking for huge mainstream success. The guy is literally one of the most successful people in the music industry over the last 25 years producing/writing 24 #1 singles on the Billboard chart. “My Universe” is typical Martin work (just like Higher Power). Big melody and hooks, basic lyrics so that it’s universal for mass appeal. It’s a trend he’s used his entire career. I’m sure this will be a mega huge streaming song. One of the biggest bands in the world teaming up with one of the worlds biggest pop groups. It was a hit song before it ever came out.
I’m much more interested in “People of The Pride”. Seems to be a lot going on in that leaked footage clip. A return to an old Viva demo combined with Muse heavy stomping guitars with a splash of Tame Impala’s “Elephant”.
Curious that Chris said the reason for the Emojis on the track listing is they those songs are all instrumentals. Interesting. So that means only 7 full band tracks.
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Post by matt on Sept 24, 2021 8:50:41 GMT -5
People of The Pride spoiler........LIVE from the Apollo. (Contains song from the deep past) Sounds like Achtung Baby era U2 which is a great thing, I can imagine Bono's lower register moody crooning from that era on this one too. |
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Post by matt on Sept 24, 2021 8:59:41 GMT -5
Well what can I say about My Universe - it does everything I expected them to do and then some. Some great production, great backing vocals and big hook. For a band in their 40s, they still somehow uncynically latch on to trends and smash it out the park unlike their peers.
I'm thinking to Who Built The Moon as a kind of benchmark (although different styles) - if they keep the album a full on bombardment of colourful sounds like that album, then it will be very strong. Just don't veer into saccharine sentimentality like half of Head Full of Dreams and they should have a strong effort.
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