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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 15, 2021 17:56:50 GMT -5
Stone cold classics were wasted as b-sides. Hard disagree; they were a huge part of the hype and era. |
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 16, 2021 12:46:40 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly. If Be Here Now had been the band's fourth album and they had taken their time with it then it probably wouldn't be an over blown mess and it would probably have been a much better album.
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Post by jh on Apr 17, 2021 15:17:21 GMT -5
Stone cold classics were wasted as b-sides. Hard disagree; they were a huge part of the hype and era. I love everything about the BHN era. The album kicked ass,B sides didn't let you down even if the single wasn't A grade. Excess excess excess.... was sooo hyped to buy it. A coked up excess but the promotion, the Air studio recordings.. niiiiiiiiice!!! |
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Post by andymorris on Apr 18, 2021 6:21:59 GMT -5
Hard disagree; they were a huge part of the hype and era. I love everything about the BHN era. The album kicked ass,B sides didn't let you down even if the single wasn't A grade. Excess excess excess.... was sooo hyped to buy it. A coked up excess but the promotion, the Air studio recordings.. niiiiiiiiice!!! Yeah BHN era was crazy. Glad they made that Ā«Ā mistakeĀ Ā». First listen in the shop... That was good fun. A mini album every 3 months for 3 years... |
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Post by MacaRonic on Apr 19, 2021 13:12:35 GMT -5
Overrated upon release, underrated now.
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Post by mightyeyes on Apr 19, 2021 14:10:40 GMT -5
Overrated upon release, underrated now. Agreed! It's my personal favourite but that's more because of the memories I got from that period |
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Post by Headmaster on May 17, 2021 15:08:22 GMT -5
Oasis ā Be Here Now
Then: Overlong, squidgy, coked-up mess
Now: Flawed masterpiece (apart from Magic Pie)
āI wrote it on holiday,ā Noel Gallagher has said of Oasisās third LP. āThere may have been a small amount of cocaine.ā And, my, does it show: every song is a swollen tantrum of back-of-the-fag-packet doggerel, pointless guitar widdlery and songs that just keep going, most lolloping in drunkenly around the six-minute mark. I used to loathe Be Here Nowās lazy, wasted opportunity to complete the perfect triptych. But timeās passage has lent it a certain black-eyed charm: beneath the static and squall the tunes are there, Noelās nattiness with a hook undiminished. Everything on it sounds utterly enormous. And Liamās voice has never been more pristine, more righteous. As a snapshot of 90s excess ā a bygone age of pig-headed rock-star bravado ā itās a preposterous hoot. Although Magic Pie does remain total, irredeemable codswallop.
Luke Hollandwww.theguardian.com/culture/2020/sep/26/my-daft-punk-review-hasnt-aged-so-well-guardian-critics-on-getting-it-wrong
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Post by The Escapist on May 17, 2021 15:28:36 GMT -5
Stone cold classics were wasted as b-sides. Hard disagree; they were a huge part of the hype and era. Never understood this argument - all of Oasis' songs in the nineties were class. Let's say, for instance, that Listen Up replaces Up in the Sky somewhere in the Definitely Maybe tracklisting. Up in the Sky doesn't then disappear - it becomes one of the amazing b-sides that builds the same hype and legacy that you're talking about. Whichever way you juggle those tunes, the brilliance of both the albums and the b-sides remains intact. It's just abount maximising the former when sometimes Noel went too far the other way. |
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Post by GlastoEls on May 18, 2021 6:39:16 GMT -5
Hard disagree; they were a huge part of the hype and era. Never understood this argument - all of Oasis' songs in the nineties were class. Let's say, for instance, that Listen Up replaces Up in the Sky somewhere in the Definitely Maybe tracklisting. Up in the Sky doesn't then disappear - it becomes one of the amazing b-sides that builds the same hype and legacy that you're talking about. Whichever way you juggle those tunes, the brilliance of both the albums and the b-sides remains intact. It's just abount maximising the former when sometimes Noel went too far the other way. My only reply to that - and I donāt disagree per se pal - was that when we (at least in my school) were all buying those singles at the time, was that there were conversations in my school yard that we couldnāt believe that Oasis would throw out singles that were āas good as the albums!ā. That made every single release a real event that was exciting and unique to them. |
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Post by dampcottage on May 18, 2021 7:12:09 GMT -5
Never understood this argument - all of Oasis' songs in the nineties were class. Let's say, for instance, that Listen Up replaces Up in the Sky somewhere in the Definitely Maybe tracklisting. Up in the Sky doesn't then disappear - it becomes one of the amazing b-sides that builds the same hype and legacy that you're talking about. Whichever way you juggle those tunes, the brilliance of both the albums and the b-sides remains intact. It's just abount maximising the former when sometimes Noel went too far the other way. My only reply to that - and I donāt disagree per se pal - was that when we (at least in my school) were all buying those singles at the time, was that there were conversations in my school yard that we couldnāt believe that Oasis would throw out singles that were āas good as the albums!ā. That made every single release a real event that was exciting and unique to them. same here!! I've said this before on a previous thread... 1995 we got some might say, talk tonight, acquiesce, headshrinker, roll with it, it's better people and rockin chair, BEFORE what's the story was released, AND in December 94 we got whatever, it's good to be free and half the world away!! It was fuckin unbelievable |
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 18, 2021 7:29:30 GMT -5
Yep, every Oasis single release was an event in its own right, leading to plenty of drunken arguments at 3 in the morning at uni as to whether Talk Tonight was better than Acquiesce etc etc.
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Post by quantum on May 18, 2021 8:12:13 GMT -5
It was hyped to hell at the time of release, and thus doomed to fail. Last month I listened to all of it for the first time in maybe 20 years, and found it was much better than I remembered! As others have said, if it could be tweaked, trimmed and remixed to make it much more palatable. Also not much love for girl who wears a dirty shirt around here  Who said the lyrics on BHN were crap... If I may be so bold that I just say something
Come and make me my day
The clouds around your soul
Don't gather there for nothing
But I can chase them all away
Why do you need a reason for to feel happy
Or shining for the rest of the world
Give me just a smile and would you make it snappy
Get your shit together girlA whole verse by Noel that makes complete sense and isn't just snippets mixed together! |
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