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Post by Thedaftstrangler on Mar 31, 2021 2:05:21 GMT -5
pre WTSMG era Liam seems much happier in interviews and all that. 1996 is when it seems to have all changed - Liam much angrier (or seemingly so). Also the change between 2008-2016, Liam turned into a complete dickhead, still funny as fuck though.
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 31, 2021 13:06:09 GMT -5
You could say the same thing about Noel as well because since he's left Oasis and gone solo he's completely changed. When he was in Oasis he used to be funny but these days I'm afraid he has become a bit of an idiot. So it's not just Liam who can be a bit of an idiot it's both of them.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 31, 2021 15:00:05 GMT -5
Did fame change some aspects of Liam (or Noel for that matter)? Of course it did. You can't have millions upon millions of adoring but demanding fans around the world, be in public headlines nearly every day, and indulge your every mad desire and whim without going on a roller coaster and having to one day face some stuff about yourself. Even if it's the dream, most people who attain the dream--especially suddenly and from unlikely circumstances--struggle with extreme fame (and all the fresh money, inspiration and relationship complications it brings) to some degree ... if they don't outright flame out.
That said, do we see enough of Liam's or Noel's real lives to really know what they were like in any given 10-year period? No, we don't. And much of what we see is through a blinkered media lens.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 31, 2021 15:09:04 GMT -5
Fame changes literally everyone.
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Post by parkamonkey93 on Apr 1, 2021 8:32:48 GMT -5
Liam's always probably been abrasive but fame gave him a big ego.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 8:36:23 GMT -5
Liam's always probably been abrasive but fame gave him a big ego. I think the Gallaghers had big egos before fame tbh |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 8:38:58 GMT -5
You could say the same thing about Noel as well because since he's left Oasis and gone solo he's completely changed. When he was in Oasis he used to be funny but these days I'm afraid he has become a bit of an idiot. So it's not just Liam who can be a bit of an idiot it's both of them. Besides the fact that I don't agree, how's that *fame*? He became famous 20 years before going solo Unless you just mean his attitude in interviews changed, but I just believe they're both kinda tired (I don't think Liam ever felt totally comfortable with them), and also take a lot of pride in being c*nts because everyone seems to want to say the right thing these days |
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 1, 2021 13:00:17 GMT -5
You could say the same thing about Noel as well because since he's left Oasis and gone solo he's completely changed. When he was in Oasis he used to be funny but these days I'm afraid he has become a bit of an idiot. So it's not just Liam who can be a bit of an idiot it's both of them. Besides the fact that I don't agree, how's that *fame*? He became famous 20 years before going solo Unless you just mean his attitude in interviews changed, but I just believe they're both kinda tired (I don't think Liam ever felt totally comfortable with them), and also take a lot of pride in being c*nts because everyone seems to want to say the right thing these days It doesn't really matter when Noel became famous and I don't think that both Noel and Liam are kind of tired. But if you really want my honest opinion of Noel since he went solo then yes, I don't like his attitude these days he seems to have become a complete idiot. But like I said Liam can also be an idiot too. And, I actually agree with Beady's Here Now that fame changes people. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 13:20:22 GMT -5
Besides the fact that I don't agree, how's that *fame*? He became famous 20 years before going solo Unless you just mean his attitude in interviews changed, but I just believe they're both kinda tired (I don't think Liam ever felt totally comfortable with them), and also take a lot of pride in being c*nts because everyone seems to want to say the right thing these days It doesn't really matter when Noel became famous and I don't think that both Noel and Liam are kind of tired. But if you really want my honest opinion of Noel since he went solo then yes, I don't like his attitude these days he seems to have become a complete idiot. But like I said Liam can also be an idiot too. And, I actually agree with Beady's Here Now that fame changes people. I just mean that if you think Noel's become an idiot since going solo, which is your opinion and I won't go against that, that's not to do with fame, and that I think they're a bit tired of getting asked the same things over and over again so they make it a point to be outrageous You can see their attitude changing when they're around interviewers they like/the interviewer is actually knowledgable/they get a bit out of their comfort zone (like when Liam did the kids Q&A or that 73 questions thing with Vogue or Noel appeared on Hot Ones) |
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Post by breakingmad on Apr 1, 2021 13:57:07 GMT -5
I'm agree, I think they were both more fun in the early years. Liam had periods of constant anger, it's true and other times where he seemed more carefree. Noel had more fun in the first interviews and his arrogance was also graceful...but now...since he started his solo career becomes a real dickhead...His arrogance doesn't make sense sometimes.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Apr 1, 2021 14:07:51 GMT -5
Liam has always been himself. For better or for worse. On the other hand, Noel has a personality built on circumstances and conveniences. This is why Liam will always be a better man than Noel.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 14:28:39 GMT -5
Yeah Hitler was always himself too  |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Apr 1, 2021 14:44:20 GMT -5
Yeah Hitler was always himself too Liam is not Hitler. And anyway, being fake is just as bad |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 14:53:36 GMT -5
Yeah Hitler was always himself too Liam is not Hitler. And anyway, being fake is just as bad Don't think Noel's bad, nor that Liam's Hitler (that was clearly a joke) But being *real*, whatever that is and however we can judge it, doesn't necessarily mean you're a good person Fucking Charles Manson might have been a real one |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 1, 2021 14:55:08 GMT -5
Yeah Hitler was always himself too Godwin's Law even on L4e. |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Apr 1, 2021 14:57:26 GMT -5
Liam is not Hitler. And anyway, being fake is just as bad Don't think Noel's bad, nor that Liam's Hitler (that was clearly a joke) But being *real*, whatever that is and however we can judge it, doesn't necessarily mean you're a good person Fucking Charles Manson might have been a real one For me it is more dignified to be a "real" villain than a fake good. ;-) |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 15:11:55 GMT -5
Yeah Hitler was always himself too Godwin's Law even on L4e. Ha Well, he's the greatest rockstar, ain't he? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2021 15:13:40 GMT -5
Don't think Noel's bad, nor that Liam's Hitler (that was clearly a joke) But being *real*, whatever that is and however we can judge it, doesn't necessarily mean you're a good person Fucking Charles Manson might have been a real one For me it is more dignified to be a "real" villain than a fake good. ;-) Being a fake good implies you did shitty things, just as the real villain There's nothing dignified in being a shit person (don't think either Gallagher is, just talking in general) |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 1, 2021 19:07:28 GMT -5
Id have to say yes somewhat, but id also put that down to the excessive lifestyle that came with fame. And i guess if enough people tell you youre the greatest guy on Earth you eventually start to believe it.
However, I also think Beady Eye not being the resounding success he thought theyd be, and his eventual going it alone did bring him back down to earth a bit. Hes still himself , but since going solo hes seemed a bit more open and laughable, a tad more mature and less arrogant.
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Post by walterglass on Apr 2, 2021 0:26:43 GMT -5
It’s not like he ever went all Steven Seagal...but to rise so high and rapidly at a very young age, it just has to have some impact 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 2, 2021 2:51:45 GMT -5
It’s not like he ever went all Steven Seagal...but to rise so high and rapidly at a very young age, it just has to have some impact 🤷🏻♂️ Hahaha, Steven Seagal, what a thought. If only there could be a "Liam Gallagher: Lawman" series, would be a massive worldwide hit. |
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Post by walterglass on Apr 2, 2021 8:10:20 GMT -5
It’s not like he ever went all Steven Seagal...but to rise so high and rapidly at a very young age, it just has to have some impact 🤷🏻♂️ Hahaha, Steven Seagal, what a thought. If only there could be a "Liam Gallagher: Lawman" series, would be a massive worldwide hit. |
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 2, 2021 13:46:31 GMT -5
I'm agree, I think they were both more fun in the early years. Liam had periods of constant anger, it's true and other times where he seemed more carefree. Noel had more fun in the first interviews and his arrogance was also graceful...but now...since he started his solo career becomes a real dickhead...His arrogance doesn't make sense sometimes. I fully agree with you about Noel but I think that Liam can still be funny in interviews. But why Noel has changed I don't know and I wish that he would go back to how he used to be in interviews but I guess he never will. |
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Post by powerage09 on Apr 2, 2021 18:14:13 GMT -5
Attention, money, drugs, women, british press camped outside your front door, stadiums full of people. That would change anyone in a normal rock band, now mulitply that by a thousand for Oasis because for a short period they were the biggest band on the planet, and it happened almost over night.
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 3, 2021 13:33:12 GMT -5
Attention, money, drugs, women, british press camped outside your front door, stadiums full of people. That would change anyone in a normal rock band, now mulitply that by a thousand for Oasis because for a short period they were the biggest band on the planet, and it happened almost over night. Yeah, that's true and I seem to remember Noel used to say in interviews or at least one which he did that he was still the same person as he used to be but how could he after all the success he and Oasis had. |
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