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Post by The Escapist on Dec 31, 2020 13:52:10 GMT -5
You know what I don't get.. What's wrong with a song just being classic Noel these days? Why isn't it good enough or claimed to be to safe or lacking if there isn't some element of "experimentation" or whatever you want to call it. This song may be nothing new and very samey to what he's done before but what is wrong with that exactly? Who Built The Moon? and his EP's achieved something different and that's cool but I think it's refreshing to hear him go back to his old sound. That is what made us huge fans in the first place anyway is it not? This is an interesting point. I'd have thought the sound that made us all huge fans was the ear-bursting walls of guitars you can find on Definitely Maybe, rather than the sound of a track such as this one - I imagine it's perfectly possible to be a massive Oasis fan and yet find the typical style of the High Flying Birds to be a bit tepid, even though I'm generally a fan of Noel's solo stuff myself. I do agree that there's nothing wrong with Noel doing a track that isn't experimental, though. I just think he can do one that's better than this - take You Know We Can't Go Back or Dead in the Water, for instance. Both are what might be described as "classic Noel", I enjoy both, and I think both are just better songs than this. Or Wandering Star. Noel is capable of great tunes in his classic style, great tunes in his "cosmic" style, and less-than-great songs in both. For me, this files under less-than-great-classic-Noel. But it's a demo, so I'm not too mithered - like the EPs or Don't Stop, having them is better than getting nothing, even if they were never going to set the world on fire. I'd give this a 6/10. |
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Post by LightsOffInside on Dec 31, 2020 13:54:59 GMT -5
Great wee demo, nice treat and a perfectly classic Noel melody! Shame it’s not on Spotify though. Just waiting for a certain user on here to complain that it doesn’t sound like Who Built The Moon lol Edit: Spoke too soon! They already did  |
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Post by neila83 on Dec 31, 2020 14:02:52 GMT -5
A proper middle 8!!! I thought a middle 8 had looked at him the wrong way somewhere. This is a trip down memory lane for the years and it's glorious. It sounds like early HFB, but with the vibe of a 90s throwaway b-side. Would have been great on his first solo album, would standout with TDOYAM from the stodgier stuff. And this is the kind of thing Oasis' later albums sorely lacked, pop that just stays the right side of not being cheesy.
Yeh, I'm a fan. He'll probably ruin it when he records it properly though haha.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Dec 31, 2020 14:50:42 GMT -5
Yeah I like it. Good little demo and it’s good to hear from Noel I must admit. Hopefully a sign that we’ll hear more from his stint in his new studio in 2021...
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Post by themanwithnoname on Dec 31, 2020 15:35:05 GMT -5
Sounds like something off the Toy Story soundtrack.
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Post by dc on Dec 31, 2020 15:53:25 GMT -5
I've already posted them a few pages back! Anyway here they are Capo on second fret Intro:E First part: Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj x3 Bmin/Dmaj/D min/A maj Second part:Amaj/C#min/ Bmin/ EMaj Amaj/C#min/ Bmin/ C#Maj7 C#min/F#nin/C#min/F#min Dmaj/Emaj First part and second part again Third part:F#min/F#min7+/F#min7/B7 Bmin/F#min/Dmaj/Emaj Instrumental Break : Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj First part again Ending : Amaj/Amaj_G/ AMaj_f#/ Amaj_E/ Amaj The notes after _ are bass notes Brilliant, thank you...sorry missed the previous post |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 31, 2020 16:06:18 GMT -5
Sounds like something off the Toy Story soundtrack. Shhhhhhh! Dont spoil it until it’s officially announced! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 31, 2020 16:15:05 GMT -5
Sounds like something off the Toy Story soundtrack. Hope this is a compliment |
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Post by oasisunited on Dec 31, 2020 16:16:45 GMT -5
Have we considered that this might be Noel casting a public search to see if there are any producers out there interested in working with him? He obviously can call up the usual suspects and ask. But I wonder if he is done with producing things himself after doing the EPs. Dropping a "demo" would certainly be a way to search for a producer without explicitly saying as much by giving everyone a taste of where he wants to go musically after the EPs. Its also just as likely that his management told him that he needed to get something out there again, as its been a year since his last release and no touring to keep him on the radar. Or its none of the above and he decided to do something nice for his fans  . |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 31, 2020 16:30:34 GMT -5
Are these timely gifts for people to enjoy during a less happy time in the world? Probably so but the cynical side of me does feel a bit like Noel's manufacture another Don't Look Back In Anger moment ala 2017. Maybe that's unfair and not at all the case but I do get that vibe a bit. I think part of it is the lower than expected quality of the songs that ordinarily I doubt would see release. For me Wandering Star is one of Noel's worst ever and this new one isn't a hell of a lot better (though I do appreciate it is only a demo). Don't Stop... is decent enough but it's been passed over on at least 3 LPs and 3 EPs now so I don't think Noel rates it that highly really. Pretty sure manufacturing a moment wasn’t Noel’s intention (more like your first option: he simply had a new, relatively upbeat and poppy demo that people around him liked, it’s been a tad too quiet on his front and it’s the end of the lousiest year in many people’s lives, so why not put it out there), but if it was, he would be kind of deluded (and I don’t think Noel is deluded, at least not in that way!) Another “DLBIA moment” is definitely not going to happen with a demo on YouTube that mainly reaches the fandom, let alone one that doesn’t really have a lot to say lyrically that a 1981 Journey song didn’t already say. (Nothing wrong with being a cliché pop song, but those aren’t the ones that make for cultural moments.) |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 31, 2020 16:35:34 GMT -5
I agree about the art work, it's great. And, like others have said it's an unusual step from Noel to release something new in this way. Maybe he's starting to (or his management) realise that streaming music is the way to go for new music even though this is just a demo. Who knows? Yeah, very unusual. "Don't Stop" was released in the same vein as this aswell, however I feel like "Don't Stop" should have been released as a NGHFB song and not an oasis one. Felt like they were trying to "cash in" on the Oasis brand. I'm not sure if Don't Stop should have been released as a Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds song really. But I certainly don't think it's one of Oasis's best songs. But it's ok. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 31, 2020 16:38:18 GMT -5
Have we considered that this might be Noel casting a public search to see if there are any producers out there interested in working with him? He obviously can call up the usual suspects and ask. But I wonder if he is done with producing things himself after doing the EPs. Dropping a "demo" would certainly be a way to search for a producer without explicitly saying as much by giving everyone a taste of where he wants to go musically after the EPs. Its also just as likely that his management told him that he needed to get something out there again, as its been a year since his last release and no touring to keep him on the radar. Or its none of the above and he decided to do something nice for his fans . He's said he's producing it himself |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 31, 2020 16:40:29 GMT -5
I really like Noel's new song, it's certainly back to what he does best and it's much better than some of the songs on those EPs which I'm not really a big fan of. If this is only a demo then what will the finished version sound like 👍
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 31, 2020 16:49:30 GMT -5
It's just a shame that the song isn't available on all of the streaming sites as that would make it even better because not everyone listens to music on YouTube. I don't so I had to download it to hear it.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 31, 2020 16:58:59 GMT -5
You know what I don't get.. What's wrong with a song just being classic Noel these days? Why isn't it good enough or claimed to be to safe or lacking if there isn't some element of "experimentation" or whatever you want to call it. This song may be nothing new and very samey to what he's done before but what is wrong with that exactly? Who Built The Moon? and his EP's achieved something different and that's cool but I think it's refreshing to hear him go back to his old sound. That is what made us huge fans in the first place anyway is it not? This is an interesting point. I'd have thought the sound that made us all huge fans was the ear-bursting walls of guitars you can find on Definitely Maybe, rather than the sound of a track such as this one - I imagine it's perfectly possible to be a massive Oasis fan and yet find the typical style of the High Flying Birds to be a bit tepid, even though I'm generally a fan of Noel's solo stuff myself. I do agree that there's nothing wrong with Noel doing a track that isn't experimental, though. I just think he can do one that's better than this - take You Know We Can't Go Back or Dead in the Water, for instance. Both are what might be described as "classic Noel", I enjoy both, and I think both are just better songs than this. Or Wandering Star. Noel is capable of great tunes in his classic style, great tunes in his "cosmic" style, and less-than-great songs in both. For me, this files under less-than-great-classic-Noel. But it's a demo, so I'm not too mithered - like the EPs or Don't Stop, having them is better than getting nothing, even if they were never going to set the world on fire. I'd give this a 6/10. Pretty much this. |
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Post by oasisunited on Dec 31, 2020 17:17:21 GMT -5
Have we considered that this might be Noel casting a public search to see if there are any producers out there interested in working with him? He obviously can call up the usual suspects and ask. But I wonder if he is done with producing things himself after doing the EPs. Dropping a "demo" would certainly be a way to search for a producer without explicitly saying as much by giving everyone a taste of where he wants to go musically after the EPs. Its also just as likely that his management told him that he needed to get something out there again, as its been a year since his last release and no touring to keep him on the radar. Or its none of the above and he decided to do something nice for his fans . He's said he's producing it himself He says a lot of things |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 31, 2020 17:21:54 GMT -5
It's just a shame that the song isn't available on all of the streaming sites as that would make it even better because not everyone listens to music on YouTube. I don't so I had to download it to hear it. It may be a sign that this is gonna get a proper release later, would be weird to have a demo officially out before the song itself, and also that this was just a little gift in such times. This way it's a win win for everyone, we get something new and tied to what we're living, Noel puts his name out there again (and gets a fairly positive reaction overall from what I've read) without putting too much pressure on the song |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 31, 2020 17:22:51 GMT -5
He's said he's producing it himself He says a lot of things Meh, he's been working for the last 6 months or so, I'm quite sure he wouldn't have much of a problem getting a producer on board if he wanted |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 31, 2020 17:25:12 GMT -5
It's just a shame that the song isn't available on all of the streaming sites as that would make it even better because not everyone listens to music on YouTube. I don't so I had to download it to hear it. It may be a sign that this is gonna get a proper release later, would be weird to have a demo officially out before the song itself, and also that this was just a little gift in such times. This way it's a win win for everyone, we get something new and tied to what we're living, Noel puts his name out there again (and gets a fairly positive reaction overall from what I've read) without putting too much pressure on the song I’d imagine a new album sometime between June and October. Most artists, Noel included, don’t really want to release new music without the ability to tour it (make money) so we shall see how this all plays out. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 31, 2020 17:31:51 GMT -5
It may be a sign that this is gonna get a proper release later, would be weird to have a demo officially out before the song itself, and also that this was just a little gift in such times. This way it's a win win for everyone, we get something new and tied to what we're living, Noel puts his name out there again (and gets a fairly positive reaction overall from what I've read) without putting too much pressure on the song I’d imagine a new album sometime between June and October. Most artists, Noel included, don’t really want to release new music without the ability to tour it (make money) so we shall see how this all plays out. Yeah autumn still looks like the most reasonable slot given the Christmas market and that if it's not late 2021 he may be able to tour it in spring 2022 I can't see him sitting on this longer than that, he's publicly talked about at least 7 or 8 songs now, I'm sure there's more |
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Post by oasismashups on Dec 31, 2020 18:52:15 GMT -5
I've already posted them a few pages back! Anyway here they are Capo on second fret Intro:E First part: Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj x3 Bmin/Dmaj/D min/A maj Second part:Amaj/C#min/ Bmin/ EMaj Amaj/C#min/ Bmin/ C#Maj7 C#min/F#nin/C#min/F#min Dmaj/Emaj First part and second part again Third part:F#min/F#min7+/F#min7/B7 Bmin/F#min/Dmaj/Emaj Instrumental Break : Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj First part again Ending : Amaj/Amaj_G/ AMaj_f#/ Amaj_E/ Amaj The notes after _ are bass notes I think it's capo 4th (sounds more like a D-Dsus4 than an E shape) |
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Post by lg on Dec 31, 2020 19:00:24 GMT -5
I've already posted them a few pages back! Anyway here they are Capo on second fret Intro:E First part: Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj x3 Bmin/Dmaj/D min/A maj Second part:Amaj/C#min/ Bmin/ EMaj Amaj/C#min/ Bmin/ C#Maj7 C#min/F#nin/C#min/F#min Dmaj/Emaj First part and second part again Third part:F#min/F#min7+/F#min7/B7 Bmin/F#min/Dmaj/Emaj Instrumental Break : Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj Bmin/Dmaj/Amaj/Emaj First part again Ending : Amaj/Amaj_G/ AMaj_f#/ Amaj_E/ Amaj The notes after _ are bass notes I think it's capo 4th (sounds more like a D-Dsus4 than an E shape) Yes definitely, it will make lots of chords easier |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Dec 31, 2020 20:19:31 GMT -5
This is an interesting point. I'd have thought the sound that made us all huge fans was the ear-bursting walls of guitars you can find on Definitely Maybe, rather than the sound of a track such as this one - I imagine it's perfectly possible to be a massive Oasis fan and yet find the typical style of the High Flying Birds to be a bit tepid, even though I'm generally a fan of Noel's solo stuff myself. I do agree that there's nothing wrong with Noel doing a track that isn't experimental, though. I just think he can do one that's better than this - take You Know We Can't Go Back or Dead in the Water, for instance. Both are what might be described as "classic Noel", I enjoy both, and I think both are just better songs than this. Or Wandering Star. Noel is capable of great tunes in his classic style, great tunes in his "cosmic" style, and less-than-great songs in both. For me, this files under less-than-great-classic-Noel. But it's a demo, so I'm not too mithered - like the EPs or Don't Stop, having them is better than getting nothing, even if they were never going to set the world on fire. I'd give this a 6/10. Pretty much this. I guess it's different for everyone, but what made me an Oasis fan was Noel's incredible melodic talent and Liam's voice and attitude. All these vague discussions about 'production' from people that I strongly suspect have never been close to a recording studio never stop to amaze me. I know profesional sound engineers far less categorical about how drums sound in a final mix than the guys in this forum That said, if David Holmes is available for producing Noel's next album, I am 150% up for it. Two amazing talents in a studio is always better than one, and I still think WBTM is Noel's best since 2000 |
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Post by durk on Dec 31, 2020 20:55:38 GMT -5
I turned it into an mp3 and drummed to it a few hours ago.
It’s definitely a demo - no matter how polished.
One listens differently when listening actively in that way.
I could feel the points where the tune dropped out a bit etc
This is going to be even so much better in a finished form.
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Post by plaskins1 on Dec 31, 2020 21:23:55 GMT -5
Reckon we'll ever get this in a finished form? He might not bother. Good enough tune though. Stop slaggin off about Xmas tunes and pandemic tunes etc. Both brothers are doing it and its just nice to have so much music being released x
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