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Post by funhouse on Dec 19, 2020 18:41:51 GMT -5
Don't think it would have gone anywhere as well as it did. Basically they needed each other and they believed in each other (for a while)... and it all turned it well And they did uncover what was sleeping in their souls. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 20, 2020 3:29:55 GMT -5
Yeah if we stay on the factual side I think Liam had definitely more of a chance of being successful, although I doubt he would've been able to do it with the actual guys in Oasis minus Noel, while Noel seemed quite happy with his life as a roadie after a couple of unsuccessful tries With that said, if he never joined Oasis but still wrote Definitely Maybe, he might've changed his mind Not sure about joining another band, but as someone else said I could imagine him bringing those songs to a record label and they were clearly too good to be denied even without Liam singing The way he writes he could've definitely carved out a career as a pop songwriter, it's all about getting yourself in that position Yeah he could have made it on his own at some point, no doubt, but I think that motivation, that 'I wanna be in a fucking rock band with loud guitars and swagger' thing didn't come to him until he knew that Liam had started a band and went to see them that famous night at the Boardwalk. Something clicked on him that night, even if he had already a bunch of tunes up his sleeve. It would be stupid to deny that Oasis firstly appealed to me mainly because of Liam's attitude and way of delivering the masterpieces Noel wrote. It was the whole package, of course, Liam+Noel+songs, but - this is obviously hypothetical, frankly I don't think I would have gotten into Oasis (or any other Liaml-less band with Noel) if it wasn't for Liam. Liam was the one who had that edge, he was the 'blade' that captured my interest. Yeah it wasn't like that for me but I totally get it when people say they got into Oasis because of Liam, he got an edge to him that really gave a swagger to the band alongside with his voice, just one of those characters you can't help but look at when they show up As for Noel, we'll never know Seeing his brother in a band surely gave him a kick and made him want to be in it as well, but I do think that in an alternative reality where he still ends up writing Live Forever and Rock n Roll Star he would've tried some kind of career, more as a writer than as the leader of a band maybe, but I believe he would've realised what he had written was too good to sit on Question is would he have come up with those tunes if he never joined Oasis? He surely had the ability, but he might've not tried hard enough to unlock it |
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Post by frjdoasis on Dec 20, 2020 16:36:10 GMT -5
Yeah he could have made it on his own at some point, no doubt, but I think that motivation, that 'I wanna be in a fucking rock band with loud guitars and swagger' thing didn't come to him until he knew that Liam had started a band and went to see them that famous night at the Boardwalk. Something clicked on him that night, even if he had already a bunch of tunes up his sleeve. It would be stupid to deny that Oasis firstly appealed to me mainly because of Liam's attitude and way of delivering the masterpieces Noel wrote. It was the whole package, of course, Liam+Noel+songs, but - this is obviously hypothetical, frankly I don't think I would have gotten into Oasis (or any other Liaml-less band with Noel) if it wasn't for Liam. Liam was the one who had that edge, he was the 'blade' that captured my interest. [...] more as a writer than as the leader of a band maybe, but I believe he would've realised what he had written was too good to sit on Question is would he have come up with those tunes if he never joined Oasis? He surely had the ability, but he might've not tried hard enough to unlock it I totally agree  |
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Post by World71R on Dec 20, 2020 19:50:12 GMT -5
I think Oasis would've been that one underground band that everyone loves but the mainstream doesn't really know about. Just imagine Noel singing the Definitely Maybe tunes (or Headshrinker)... He's developed himself into a good singer now but back then, he was more pitchy and his presence wasn't there as much, and he didn't have that snarl like Liam did. Liam really elevated the songs in a way that Noel couldn't back in the day and, in turn, made the band whole. Same case for if Noel wasn't part of the band, it wouldn't have worked. I'd even go as far to say that it wouldn't have worked with Tony and Alan not being a part of the band either. Their drumming efforts each made DM and MG very distinctive albums. I'm probably not as well read on early Oasis history as many on here, but is there anything suggesting that, had Liam left or if it just didn't work out, that Noel himself would be the lead singer? There never was, and I don't think Noel would've kept the band going if Liam called it quits, but in the event of Noel having to carry the band, I don't think the band would've been as good as they were with Noel at the helm of lead singer. He just didn't have the voice to match the sound and the songwriting of the Liam-sung songs that made up a lot of what made '90s Oasis great. |
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Post by funhouse on Dec 21, 2020 9:59:29 GMT -5
I'm probably not as well read on early Oasis history as many on here, but is there anything suggesting that, had Liam left or if it just didn't work out, that Noel himself would be the lead singer? I don't think the band would've been as good as they were with Noel at the helm of lead singer. He just didn't have the voice to match the sound and the songwriting of the Liam-sung songs that made up a lot of what made '90s Oasis great. Of course. But to me it's not about good/bad really, Liam was just infinutely more dynamic as a singer. Noel carried DLBIA perfectly, Liam would have too. But Noel would never have been able to pull off Cigarettes & Alcohol or Bring It On Down, it would have been ridiculous. Just like Liam he lived that life, but he didn't sound like he was. Obviously Liam did, he could make all the lyrics sound autobiographical, and he looked the part too. It's hard imagining a different reality with another frontman, but he would have had to be able to tick of all those three boxes, which is a lot to ask for. |
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Post by goletitout1986 on Dec 23, 2020 13:33:51 GMT -5
They wouldn't have fared at all.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 23, 2020 13:39:47 GMT -5
In this alternate reality, I ask, who?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 23, 2020 15:49:53 GMT -5
It's like would Jesus Christ been a f#$%ing pervert if he had a crisp packet on his head? No one knows, do they?
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Dec 24, 2020 9:34:55 GMT -5
“There’s a lot of good music. But there’s only one Liam Gallagher. And that’s what make the difference”. (Cit)
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Post by GlastoEls on Dec 25, 2020 16:33:46 GMT -5
Without Liam, they'd be like that football team that does everything right but just lacks that killer instinct. Really good, but underachieving, could be massive but just needs that magic sparkle to set them right. Then they sign the star striker, and there you go, outrageous success. That’s exactly how the NME described DLBIA in their 1996 single review. “Newcastle with Peter Beardsley’s artistry without Les Ferdinand to finish it off”. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 25, 2020 16:59:33 GMT -5
Without Liam, they'd be like that football team that does everything right but just lacks that killer instinct. Really good, but underachieving, could be massive but just needs that magic sparkle to set them right. Then they sign the star striker, and there you go, outrageous success. That’s exactly how the NME described DLBIA in their 1996 single review. “Newcastle with Peter Beardsley’s artistry without Les Ferdinand to finish it off”. The song seems to have aged better than that take |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 25, 2020 19:50:18 GMT -5
Would Peanut Butter have fared well without Jelly?
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Post by World71R on Dec 26, 2020 0:59:35 GMT -5
Would Peanut Butter have fared well without Jelly? Bang-on analogy. Just as peanut butter would be too salty without jelly, Oasis without Noel would've been too raw, rough, and hard-hitting without the sweet edge, just as peanut butter would be without jelly. Each do well on there own but you can tell it's missing something, and you're not going to desire that thing on its own as much as if it had the thing it was missing. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 26, 2020 1:12:46 GMT -5
Slippery when wet.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 26, 2020 1:14:06 GMT -5
Would Peanut Butter have fared well without Jelly? Bang-on analogy. Just as peanut butter would be too salty without jelly, Oasis without Noel would've been too raw, rough, and hard-hitting without the sweet edge, just as peanut butter would be without jelly. Each do well on there own but you can tell it's missing something, and you're not going to desire that thing on its own as much as if it had the thing it was missing. So Noel is Peanutbutter and Liam Jelly? I would say peanutbutter is the bigger of the two when solo. |
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Post by World71R on Dec 26, 2020 1:20:39 GMT -5
Bang-on analogy. Just as peanut butter would be too salty without jelly, Oasis without Noel would've been too raw, rough, and hard-hitting without the sweet edge, just as peanut butter would be without jelly. Each do well on there own but you can tell it's missing something, and you're not going to desire that thing on its own as much as if it had the thing it was missing. So Noel is Peanutbutter and Liam Jelly? I would say peanutbutter is the bigger of the two when solo. Other way around. Liam is PB and Noel is J. Liam going solo with the help he has is like PB finding honey or jam. It's similar, not quite as potent of a partner, but still pretty good and fruitful (  ). |
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