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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 22, 2020 11:14:34 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I have given the full album a proper listen. And ... it's not great. The music itself is mostly fine, albeit, cliched in places, but the lyrics are so simple to the point of distraction on most of the tunes. They are straight and to the point. They lack poetry, an abstract quality that colors what we might affirm to be good lyrics. I normally pay little mind to lyrics, as I am mostly there for the melody, but like I said. Distracting. I don't feel it's aged as well as I used to think anymore; especially when considering Liam's solo records.
All that being said, it is a very pleasing record instrumentally.
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Post by northernsky on Jul 22, 2020 11:28:28 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I have given the full album a proper listen. And ... it's not great. The music itself is mostly fine, albeit, cliched in places, but the lyrics are so simple to the point of distraction on most of the tunes. They are straight and to the point. They lack poetry, an abstract quality that colors what we might affirm to be good lyrics. I normally pay little mind to lyrics, as I am mostly there for the melody, but like I said. Distracting. I don't feel it's aged as well as I used to think anymore; especially when considering Liam's solo records. All that being said, it is a very pleasing record instrumentally.
Whenever I revisit BE I’m reminded that most of the songs I consider the standout tracks aren’t actually on the album. Could have had a totally different legacy for me if different songs had made the cut. Though the Gallagher brothers have a long and storied history of discarding superior tunes for inferior ones, I feel like BE may be the most egregious example. I would be quite happy with a track listing something like... Flick of the Finger The World’s Not Set In Stone Soul Love Is Rite Back After the Break Second Bite of the Apple Evil Eye I’m Just Saying Off at the Next Exit Start Anew |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 22, 2020 11:33:29 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I have given the full album a proper listen. And ... it's not great. The music itself is mostly fine, albeit, cliched in places, but the lyrics are so simple to the point of distraction on most of the tunes. They are straight and to the point. They lack poetry, an abstract quality that colors what we might affirm to be good lyrics. I normally pay little mind to lyrics, as I am mostly there for the melody, but like I said. Distracting. I don't feel it's aged as well as I used to think anymore; especially when considering Liam's solo records. All that being said, it is a very pleasing record instrumentally.
Whenever I revisit BE I’m reminded that most of the songs I consider the standout tracks aren’t actually on the album. Could have had a totally different legacy for me if different songs had made the cut. Though the Gallagher brothers have a long and storied history of discarding superior tunes for inferior ones, I feel like BE may be the most egregious example. I would be quite happy with a track listing something like... Flick of the Finger The World’s Not Set In Stone Soul Love Is Rite Back After the Break Second Bite of the Apple Evil Eye I’m Just Saying Off at the Next Exit Start Anew I'd have to replace Apple, but otherwise, much more cohesive. |
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Post by glider on Jul 22, 2020 13:19:38 GMT -5
Who Built the Moon?
Chasing Yesterday
BE
As You Were
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
Why Me Why Not?
Different Gear, Still Speeding
I still think BE's better than both of Liam's solo albums. Dave Sitek was a great producer and expanded their sound, nothing sounded like it was lifting any Beatlesque tropes aside from a couple small instances.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 22, 2020 22:45:48 GMT -5
worst lyrics has to be APPLE, and sadly it was the first ((  ??)(!!!!!)) single? Iz Rite chorus is BAD 'when you call my name, it takes away my pain'  ) and Don't Brother Me's confusion about Noel... well.. it just never had to BE. 1. Flick Of The Finger 2. Soul Love 3. Evil Eye 4. Iz Rite 5. Don't Bother Me 6. Second Bite Of The Apple 7. The World's Not Set In Stone 8. Shine A Light 9. Soon Come Tomorrow 10. Start Anew *not a big fan of Iz Rite, but love the title and I remember it felt RITE back when it was released |
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Post by modxxii on Jul 23, 2020 2:21:14 GMT -5
I still like BE. A lot. It's a shame it has the worst Liam vocals ever. But I'd pick BE over DBTT everytime.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 24, 2020 1:26:18 GMT -5
Flick of the finger is a tune.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 24, 2020 14:15:39 GMT -5
Flick of the finger is a tune. Great start to the album. |
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Post by World71R on Jul 24, 2020 17:55:14 GMT -5
This album was so close to being pretty good, but they flubbed up the tracklisting with some of the flaws that plagued BDI in its short run (too much Beatlesque and rock cliches in their sound and trying to be stereotypically psychedelic). I think a listing like this would've done them well:
Flick of the Finger
Second Bite of the Apple
Face the Crowd
I'm Just Saying
Soul Love
Soon Come Tomorrow
Back After the Break
Iz Rite
Evil Eye
Off at the Next Exit
Start Anew
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Post by medievalrichard on Jul 25, 2020 8:50:05 GMT -5
I still like BE. A lot. It's a shame it has the worst Liam vocals ever. I think that also has a lot to do with how it was mixed, etc. Not the best. |
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Post by medievalrichard on Jul 25, 2020 8:51:37 GMT -5
Soul Love, Start Anew, Flick of The Finger (banger of an opening track for the album let alone live) and Back After The Break are tunes.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 25, 2020 8:55:44 GMT -5
I still adore all those bonus CD tracks.
Back After The Break
Off At The Next Exit
Girls In Uniform
Evil Eye
I listen to those 4 more often than almost anything off BE.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 26, 2020 8:40:51 GMT -5
Normally with an album by a band I like, I listen to it on repeat for ages and ages. I can sort of tell the songs I'm not massively keen on but I still like or appreciate them.
With BE, it took me one listen to decide there were about 5 songs I actually liked. The rest were instantly forgettable.
Flic of the Finger
Soul Love
Second Bite of the Apple
Ballroom Figured
and MAYBE Face the Crowd.
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 27, 2020 11:35:18 GMT -5
I think it is the worst album I own. I like Sitek's production though, it was the only redeeming feature apart from the bonus songs, some of which were decent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 11:46:42 GMT -5
BE album is better produced and has an "indie" feel that is absent of LG solo stuff but to be honest, there aren't much songs to save. The bonus track Evil Eye might be the best thing Beady Eye ever done though.
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Post by matt on Jul 27, 2020 12:23:42 GMT -5
Flick of the Finger is still great. And that’s about it.
Liam’s songs sound nice but, once again, undercooked in a way that his solo collaborators made sure wouldn’t be the case. It was the final nail in the coffin - Sitek was an inspired choice, this had to work and be significantly different from Oasis but old habits die hard and Andy, and especially Gem, proved they couldn’t write songs that were in any way original, exciting or modern.
An awful effort all round - I realise Andy’s talent is Ride and that’s where he’s best suited but the world will be better off in never hearing a Gem written song ever again.
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Post by Rolo on Jul 27, 2020 13:32:19 GMT -5
Flick of the Finger is still great. And that’s about it. Liam’s songs sound nice but, once again, undercooked in a way that his solo collaborators made sure wouldn’t be the case. It was the final nail in the coffin - Sitek was an inspired choice, this had to work and be significantly different from Oasis but old habits die hard and Andy, and especially Gem, proved they couldn’t write songs that were in any way original, exciting or modern. An awful effort all round - I realise Andy’s talent is Ride and that’s where he’s best suited but the world will be better off in never hearing a Gem written song ever again. Feel like you're being a bit harsh on Gem when he wrote this beauty: Still think it's one of the best songs since Oasis split. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 15:34:35 GMT -5
Off At The Next Exit was my favourite post-Oasis song for a long time. Might still be. And with the leak of Gem's demos we learned he was responsible for In The Bubble With A Bullet and Ballroom Figured, which are both good. The Roller's fine too. For me it's his uptempo songs that are mediocre at best and can be genuinely offensive to the ears. Wind Up Dream is one of the worst songs I've ever heard.
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Post by scyhopath on Jul 27, 2020 16:16:53 GMT -5
It's a really well-produced album that unfortunately lacks songs that have any substance. There's an intriguing vibe to them but they go absolutely nowhere, and those few songs that are actually worthwhile aren't even on the standard version of the album. It was a move in the right direction, but poorly executed.
Now that I think of it, isn't that ridiculous that LG slagged Noel off for the experimental approach on WBTM? when he was in fact the first of the two to go down that path?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 16:41:55 GMT -5
Also, I don't think the production is anything to get excited about. Whatever else Sitek did, surely the first job of someone producing Beady Eye is to get great vocals out of Liam. If you don't do that, how are you going to make something good? The songs aren't going to get past subpar vocals.
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Post by Flashbax on Jul 28, 2020 7:40:00 GMT -5
The World's Not Set in Stone
Back After the Break
Off at the Next Exit
Girls in Uniform
Evil Eye
Everytime it amazes me why these 5 songs were left off. It's not like the 11 songs that ended up on the album were any good.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 28, 2020 18:54:48 GMT -5
I've been listening to their b-sides a lot lately, Off At The Next Exit, Evil Eye, World Outside My Room, In The Bubble With a Bullet are all great, I really like these songs.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Aug 3, 2020 1:14:38 GMT -5
Second Bite of the Apple is such a nothing song. It's really the bottom of the barrel for me.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 3, 2020 12:09:16 GMT -5
Second Bite of the Apple is such a nothing song. It's really the bottom of the barrel for me. I feel the same way. The chorus shows some promise of a potential catchy song, until it repeats and repeats and repeats, but those verses sink it deeper than the Titanic. I remember it was performed on some big show in its day and for the life of me couldn't figure out why it was chosen as a single to present to the world. |
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 3, 2020 19:50:25 GMT -5
Second Bite of the Apple is such a nothing song. It's really the bottom of the barrel for me. I feel the same way. The chorus shows some promise of a potential catchy song, until it repeats and repeats and repeats, but those verses sink it deeper than the Titanic. I remember it was performed on some big show in its day and for the life of me couldn't figure out why it was chosen as a single to present to the world. We also believe (I think?) thats when they did Songbird at a party |
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