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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 21, 2020 14:31:37 GMT -5
Hypothetical situation:
Lots of revisionism regarding Knebworth and how the band possibly should have walked away and said 'that's all folks' at their absolute peak. Let's pretend it happened and "Oasis" never released Be Here Now onwards (The Masterplan is released, but only including the DM, WTSMG? B-Sides...) and are, in 2020, about to reform.
Design the perfect third album for their comeback. One that seals their reputation as the greatest band of all time. Noel has gone solo and released all of his current solo albums, Liam has gone solo and released all of those tunes, too, so you can't use them.
You can only use Oasis tunes from BHN to DOYS. Presume that Guigs and Bonehead stay on, so no Andy Bell or Gem tunes.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Jul 21, 2020 20:46:30 GMT -5
Okay, well this is a fun hypothetical. What a great idea!
For the album title I would go with: Don't Be Scared
Track Listing:
F'n in the Bushes
Go Let it Out
Lyla
the Hindu Times
Stop Crying Your Heart Out
D'You Know What I Mean?
The Importance of Being Idle
Songbird
Let's All Make Believe
Falling Down
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel
Stand by Me
Roll It Over
I went with thirteen tunes. I'm not sure if that's too many since most of their 2000s albums were around ten or eleven tracks. I really wish I could have used some of the Bell or Gem tunes(Eyeball Tickler would have been right behind D'You Know What I Mean?), it was a shame leaving them out but that is part of the fun in the hypothetical here.
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Post by uboasis on Jul 21, 2020 21:42:10 GMT -5
Hypothetical situation: Lots of revisionism regarding Knebworth and how the band possibly should have walked away and said 'that's all folks' at their absolute peak. Let's pretend it happened and "Oasis" never released Be Here Now onwards (The Masterplan is released, but only including the DM, WTSMG? B-Sides...) and are, in 2020, about to reform. Design the perfect third album for their comeback. One that seals their reputation as the greatest band of all time. Noel has gone solo and released all of his current solo albums, Liam has gone solo and released all of those tunes, too, so you can't use them. You can only use Oasis tunes from BHN to DOYS. Presume that Guigs and Bonehead stay on, so no Andy Bell or Gem tunes. I get the question and I've seen the 'what if the MasterPlan' was the third album questions. I get it, and it would have been a Masterpiece. However, I don't think it would have been better for them. The Oasis b-sides from 1994-1996 were legendary and I believe they are part of what made oasis legends at the time. Yes, the b-sides didn't reach the casual fans but the bsides are part of what made oasis ...oasis if that makes sense. I know the b-sides blew my mind when I discovered them after I became a fan in 96. Don't get me wrong, the best b-sides from 1994-1996 are good enough to be an album that most bands would be proud of. However, for oasis it would have just been another great album but the b-side mystique would have been lost. I think the current two classic albums with iconic b-sides is more legendary than 3 great/very good albums would be. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 22, 2020 7:20:41 GMT -5
Hypothetical situation: Lots of revisionism regarding Knebworth and how the band possibly should have walked away and said 'that's all folks' at their absolute peak. Let's pretend it happened and "Oasis" never released Be Here Now onwards (The Masterplan is released, but only including the DM, WTSMG? B-Sides...) and are, in 2020, about to reform. Design the perfect third album for their comeback. One that seals their reputation as the greatest band of all time. Noel has gone solo and released all of his current solo albums, Liam has gone solo and released all of those tunes, too, so you can't use them. You can only use Oasis tunes from BHN to DOYS. Presume that Guigs and Bonehead stay on, so no Andy Bell or Gem tunes. I get the question and I've seen the 'what if the MasterPlan' was the third album questions. I get it, and it would have been a Masterpiece. However, I don't think it would have been better for them. The Oasis b-sides from 1994-1996 were legendary and I believe they are part of what made oasis legends at the time. Yes, the b-sides didn't reach the casual fans but the bsides are part of what made oasis ...oasis if that makes sense. I know the b-sides blew my mind when I discovered them after I became a fan in 96. Don't get me wrong, the best b-sides from 1994-1996 are good enough to be an album that most bands would be proud of. However, for oasis it would have just been another great album but the b-side mystique would have been lost. I think the current two classic albums with iconic b-sides is more legendary than 3 great/very good albums would be. I remember an interview with Noel saying something along these lines |
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Jul 22, 2020 9:29:00 GMT -5
1- fucking in the bushes
2- my big mouth
3- stop crying your heart out / don't go away
4- the importance of being idle / little by little
5- i hope i think i know
6- gas panic / do you know what i mean
7- the hindu times
8- lyla
9- the shock of the lightning
10- all around the world / falling down
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 22, 2020 9:31:40 GMT -5
It'd just be Be Here Now, really. Maybe with Stay Young on it, and properly produced/arranged. Nothing after the 90's can touch what they were in that decade.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 22, 2020 13:55:32 GMT -5
It'd just be Be Here Now, really. Maybe with Stay Young on it, and properly produced/arranged. Nothing after the 90's can touch what they were in that decade. Really? That seems a very hot take. Oasis remained a decent singles band til the very end. What would you list as the 10 best post-Morning Glory? songs? |
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Post by twinsen on Jul 22, 2020 14:45:54 GMT -5
As a vinyl listener I imagine an album like:
(Side A)
1 Fuckin'In The Bushes
2 The Hindu Times
3 Magic Pie
4 Roll It Over
(Side B)
5 Guess God Think I'm Abel
6 Gas Panic!
7 Stop Cryin Your Heart Out
8 Born On A Different Cloud
9 Songbird
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 22, 2020 15:17:24 GMT -5
It'd just be Be Here Now, really. Maybe with Stay Young on it, and properly produced/arranged. Nothing after the 90's can touch what they were in that decade. Really? That seems a very hot take. Oasis remained a decent singles band til the very end. What would you list as the 10 best post-Morning Glory? songs? Tough one. Outside of The Importance of Being Idle and The Hindu Times Demo, I can honestly say that none of them are essentials for me. Lots of stuff I can enjoy when I listen to it, but nothing I'd be devastated never to hear ever again. I'd go: 1. The Hindu Times (Demo) 2. The Importance of Being Idle 3. Go Let it Out 4. To Be Where There's Life 5. Falling Down 6. Fuckin' in the Bushes 7. Soldier On 8. Who Feels Love? 9. Gas Panic! 10. Stop Crying Your Heart Out For me, though, Oasis is all about the 90's. It's that raucous working-class spirit, a bunch of lads off a council estate stuck in dead-end towns writing loud-as-fuck pop songs about how great life is. Once Bonehead/Guigsy left and they were all settled into mansions and stopped wearing trackies and started making songs like Lyla, it just wasn't the same. Be Here Now, for all it's flaws and indulgence, still has the soul of what made Oasis special in a way that nothing afterwards really did. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 22, 2020 16:30:47 GMT -5
Really? That seems a very hot take. Oasis remained a decent singles band til the very end. What would you list as the 10 best post-Morning Glory? songs? Tough one. Outside of The Importance of Being Idle and The Hindu Times Demo, I can honestly say that none of them are essentials for me. Lots of stuff I can enjoy when I listen to it, but nothing I'd be devastated never to hear ever again. I'd go: 1. The Hindu Times (Demo) 2. The Importance of Being Idle 3. Go Let it Out 4. To Be Where There's Life 5. Falling Down 6. Fuckin' in the Bushes 7. Soldier On 8. Who Feels Love? 9. Gas Panic! 10. Stop Crying Your Heart Out For me, though, Oasis is all about the 90's. It's that raucous working-class spirit, a bunch of lads off a council estate stuck in dead-end towns writing loud-as-fuck pop songs about how great life is. Once Bonehead/Guigsy left and they were all settled into mansions and stopped wearing trackies and started making songs like Lyla, it just wasn't the same. Be Here Now, for all it's flaws and indulgence, still has the soul of what made Oasis special in a way that nothing afterwards really did. In keeping with OP's original question how do the song's from Be Here Now fit into your top 10? Here are my favourites using your cut off points (SOTSOG- DOYS): 1. The Shock of the Lightning 2. The Importance of Being Idle 3. The Hindu Times [Demo] 4. Go Let It Out 5. Falling Down 6. Gas Panic! 7. Fuckin' In the Bushes 8. Bag It Up 9. Where Did It All Go Wrong [Demo] 10. The Turning If I were to include Be Here Now then D'You Know What I Mean? would definitely make the cut and I'd consider My Big Mouth and Going Nowhere but that'd be it for me. I've never really bought into Be Here Now the way some others have on here. I agree with the concensus that it's probably the band's 3rd best LP but I think a lot of its appeal for some comes from it sounding like classic Oasis which isn't a big selling point for me. It sounds like Oasis imitating Oasis in a really untasteful maximalist manner. The switch up was overdue. |
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 22, 2020 17:31:52 GMT -5
Tough one. Outside of The Importance of Being Idle and The Hindu Times Demo, I can honestly say that none of them are essentials for me. Lots of stuff I can enjoy when I listen to it, but nothing I'd be devastated never to hear ever again. I'd go: 1. The Hindu Times (Demo) 2. The Importance of Being Idle 3. Go Let it Out 4. To Be Where There's Life 5. Falling Down 6. Fuckin' in the Bushes 7. Soldier On 8. Who Feels Love? 9. Gas Panic! 10. Stop Crying Your Heart Out For me, though, Oasis is all about the 90's. It's that raucous working-class spirit, a bunch of lads off a council estate stuck in dead-end towns writing loud-as-fuck pop songs about how great life is. Once Bonehead/Guigsy left and they were all settled into mansions and stopped wearing trackies and started making songs like Lyla, it just wasn't the same. Be Here Now, for all it's flaws and indulgence, still has the soul of what made Oasis special in a way that nothing afterwards really did. In keeping with OP's original question how do the song's from Be Here Now fit into your top 10? Here are my favourites using your cut off points (SOTSOG- DOYS): 1. The Shock of the Lightning 2. The Importance of Being Idle 3. The Hindu Times [Demo] 4. Go Let It Out 5. Falling Down 6. Gas Panic! 7. Fuckin' In the Bushes 8. Bag It Up 9. Where Did It All Go Wrong [Demo] 10. The Turning If I were to include Be Here Now then D'You Know What I Mean? would definitely make the cut and I'd consider My Big Mouth and Going Nowhere but that'd be it for me. I've never really bought into Be Here Now the way some others have on here. I agree with the concensus that it's probably the band's 3rd best LP but I think a lot of its appeal for some comes from it sounding like classic Oasis which isn't a big selling point for me. It sounds like Oasis imitating Oasis in a really untasteful maximalist manner. The switch up was overdue. Probably something like: 1. D'You Know What I Mean? 2. Stand By Me 3. All Around the World 4. The Hindu Times (Demo) 5. The Importance of Being Idle 6. Be Here Now 7. Go Let it Out 8. Stay Young 9. We're Gettin' Better (Man!!) 10. I Hope, I Think, I Know It's indefinable, really. 90's Oasis just has a power to it that they could never recapture afterwards. It makes me think of house parties and trackie bottoms and loud music and just that brilliant, timeless, undefeatable working-class spirit. After 2000 the highlights are fine, some good singles, but the band had become comfortable professional musicians and it's just not the same. Be Here Now is definitely indulgent and in some ways a bit of a self-parody, but it's still got that sense of fun to it, like a bunch of scallies in Adidas trainers have somehow been given the keys to an orchestra. It's a big, stupid, raucous, fuck-off pop album, and if Oasis ever came back I'd want that over an album of "Roll it Over" type songs any day. |
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Post by Flashbax on Jul 22, 2020 19:00:10 GMT -5
An 80 minute remix of Wind Up Dream with Andy on vocals.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 22, 2020 22:27:29 GMT -5
An 80 minute remix of Wind Up Dream with Andy on vocals.  |
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Post by freek on Jul 23, 2020 2:13:42 GMT -5
1. Be Here Now
2. My Big Mouth
3. The Importance of Being Idle
4. Gas Panic!
5. Stop Crying Your Heart Out
6. The Meaning of Soul
7. Lyla
8. I'm Outta Time
9. Stand By Me
10. Falling Down
11. Fade-in/out
Still like a lot of BHN songs. Singles would be, in chronological order: Lyla, SCYHO, TIOBI and SBM, I think. This is fun!
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 23, 2020 6:23:21 GMT -5
In keeping with OP's original question how do the song's from Be Here Now fit into your top 10? Here are my favourites using your cut off points (SOTSOG- DOYS): 1. The Shock of the Lightning 2. The Importance of Being Idle 3. The Hindu Times [Demo] 4. Go Let It Out 5. Falling Down 6. Gas Panic! 7. Fuckin' In the Bushes 8. Bag It Up 9. Where Did It All Go Wrong [Demo] 10. The Turning If I were to include Be Here Now then D'You Know What I Mean? would definitely make the cut and I'd consider My Big Mouth and Going Nowhere but that'd be it for me. I've never really bought into Be Here Now the way some others have on here. I agree with the concensus that it's probably the band's 3rd best LP but I think a lot of its appeal for some comes from it sounding like classic Oasis which isn't a big selling point for me. It sounds like Oasis imitating Oasis in a really untasteful maximalist manner. The switch up was overdue. Probably something like: 1. D'You Know What I Mean? 2. Stand By Me 3. All Around the World 4. The Hindu Times (Demo) 5. The Importance of Being Idle 6. Be Here Now 7. Go Let it Out 8. Stay Young 9. We're Gettin' Better (Man!!) 10. I Hope, I Think, I Know It's indefinable, really. 90's Oasis just has a power to it that they could never recapture afterwards. It makes me think of house parties and trackie bottoms and loud music and just that brilliant, timeless, undefeatable working-class spirit. After 2000 the highlights are fine, some good singles, but the band had become comfortable professional musicians and it's just not the same. Be Here Now is definitely indulgent and in some ways a bit of a self-parody, but it's still got that sense of fun to it, like a bunch of scallies in Adidas trainers have somehow been given the keys to an orchestra. It's a big, stupid, raucous, fuck-off pop album, and if Oasis ever came back I'd want that over an album of "Roll it Over" type songs any day. certainly has a carefree fun that was never really captured again. Fuckin' In the Bushes does it... The Importance of Being Idle does too... but little else does in quite the same way. It all became a little too audibly calculated which doesn't reflect the band in the most natural way. For me Be Here Now clinches 3rd place because the songs are more consistently there than what came later. Personally I'd favor a more fun record too but as long as the songs were there I wouldn't be too fussed. |
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Post by coconutstall on Jul 23, 2020 20:51:20 GMT -5
Have ended up with this, run time would be over an hour normally but hopefully trim a few minutes out of DYKWIM and AATW especially to make sure it fits on one vinyl (imagine how much of a seller this would be)
1. F*n in the Bushes
2. D'You Know What I Mean?
3. Go Let it Out
4. Be Here Now
5. Don't Go Away
6. Stop Crying Your Heart Out
7. Stand By Me
8. Stay Young
9. Gas Panic!
10. I'm Outta Time
11. All Around the World
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Post by 2nz on Jul 24, 2020 4:17:26 GMT -5
I don't think they were taking enough cocaine.
What should have happened is that they took the Abbey Road sessions and decided to redo them in LA. End up sharing a studio with Axl Rose and that's when things really take off.
1: D'you Know What I Mean (18:21)
2: My Big Mouth (Volume up to 11 mix)
3: Little James (180 piece orchestra mix)
4: All Around the World
5: Be Here Now (Buckethead solo)
6: All Around the World (Reprise 1)
7: It's Getting Better Man (No brackets)
8: All Around the World (Reprise 3)
9: Who Feels Love? (Barrel scraping mix)
10: All Around the World (Reprise 2)
11: All Around the World.
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Post by modxxii on Jul 24, 2020 5:03:16 GMT -5
Fuckin'In The Bushes
The Hindu Times
D'you Know What I Mean
Stop Cryin Your Heart Out
I'm Outta Time
Little by little
The Importance of Being Idle
Stand By Me
I Hope, I Think, I Know
Let's All Make Believe
Gas Panic!
Born On A Different Cloud
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 6, 2020 11:10:54 GMT -5
An 80 minute remix of Wind Up Dream with Andy on vocals. Sounds like a Wind Up Nightmare, innit |
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Post by stinenat on Aug 6, 2020 14:23:45 GMT -5
It'd just be Be Here Now, really. Maybe with Stay Young on it, and properly produced/arranged. Nothing after the 90's can touch what they were in that decade. I agree. Song for song BHN is just as good as the first two albums and superior to the four that follow it. It's the production that sinks it. But, if I'm playing along, and able to imagine maybe they're doing a long single album or double vinyl because they've been gone for 23 years, here we go. Side A D'you Know What I Mean? Go Let It Out My Big Mouth Side B Stand By Me Be Here Now Gas Panic! Side C Stop Crying Your Heart Out Little By Little I Hope, I Think, I Know. Side D Fade In-Out Don't Go Away All Around The World |
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Post by tiger40 on Aug 18, 2020 12:59:11 GMT -5
D' You Know What I Mean?
Go Let It Out
Stop Crying Your Heart Out
Gas Panic
The Importance Of Being Idle
Guess God Thinks I'm Able
Fade In-Out
Little By Little
The Shock Of The Lightning
Falling Down
Roll It Over
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