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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jul 15, 2020 12:03:49 GMT -5
Just going to throw this weird one out there.
9 years since the If I Had a Gun single finally became a single, and I specifically remember a copy of the b-side in very, very low quality being leaked. Was that completely okay to live with? Not exactly, because whoever ripped their CD didn't do a good job and obviously screwed himself over, as well as their channel because the originally leaked audio video is clearly gone now. Obviously.
Second, the track has DEFINITELY been available for the past 9 years, I am completely aware of that, but from an even lower, dustier vinyl rip. No offence to the Ripper, but have you ever heard of soap and water? Anyway...
Here's "I'd Pick You Every Time" available for the first time, digitally, after 9 years. Not even joking. This is the first time we've had a good, better copy than our Vinyl copies (I'm looking at you 'Songs From the Great White North EP' rippers).
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Post by Jack on Jul 15, 2020 12:53:20 GMT -5
Just going to throw this weird one out there. 9 years since the If I Had a Gun single finally became a single, and I specifically remember a copy of the b-side in very, very low quality being leaked. Was that completely okay to live with? Not exactly, because whoever ripped their CD didn't do a good job and obviously screwed himself over, as well as their channel because the originally leaked audio video is clearly gone now. Obviously. Second, the track has DEFINITELY been available for the past 9 years, I am completely aware of that, but from an even lower, dustier vinyl rip. No offence to the Ripper, but have you ever heard of soap and water? Anyway... Here's "I'd Pick You Every Time" available for the first time, digitally, after 9 years. Not even joking. This is the first time we've had a good, better copy than our Vinyl copies (I'm looking at you 'Songs From the Great White North EP' rippers). What? It's already available digitally on Spotify and Amazon. I've had a 320kbs copy of it since 2011. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jul 15, 2020 13:11:42 GMT -5
Just going to throw this weird one out there. 9 years since the If I Had a Gun single finally became a single, and I specifically remember a copy of the b-side in very, very low quality being leaked. Was that completely okay to live with? Not exactly, because whoever ripped their CD didn't do a good job and obviously screwed himself over, as well as their channel because the originally leaked audio video is clearly gone now. Obviously. Second, the track has DEFINITELY been available for the past 9 years, I am completely aware of that, but from an even lower, dustier vinyl rip. No offence to the Ripper, but have you ever heard of soap and water? Anyway... Here's "I'd Pick You Every Time" available for the first time, digitally, after 9 years. Not even joking. This is the first time we've had a good, better copy than our Vinyl copies (I'm looking at you 'Songs From the Great White North EP' rippers). What? It's already available digitally on Spotify and Amazon. I've had a 320kbs copy of it since 2011. You might want to re-evaluate your outlook on this. Not everything available in your country is exactly available everywhere. Nowhere does this exist as a CD rip online. No one has ever bothered to rip their CD of the single. Nor has anyone done a better Vinyl rip (see the Dying of the Light demo rip for example). This version is basically better than everyone else's copy, until someone actually rips their original CD copy to FLAC and then I could maybe just disregard this, but this version is definitely higher quality than your 320kbps version. Sorry. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 15, 2020 13:37:20 GMT -5
Yes but give me Alone On The Rope on Spotify
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jul 15, 2020 13:39:24 GMT -5
Yes but give me Alone On The Rope on Spotify This ^ I'll never understand why geo-restricting music is a thing. It's like having to buy your CDs out of YOUR own security safe each time you want to listen to the CD or song. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 15, 2020 13:45:35 GMT -5
Yes but give me Alone On The Rope on Spotify This ^ I'll never understand why geo-restricting music is a thing. It's like having to buy your CDs out of YOUR own security safe each time you want to listen to the CD or song. Never understood it either, especially as it wasn't even done for the US or Japan, it was for Germany I get it was a promo/amazon thing, but that song is too good to not get a proper release and be available everywhere |
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Post by schorman on Jul 15, 2020 14:04:54 GMT -5
"Alone on the Rope" was also released on Amazon in the US, at the time. It's also on the "If Love Is The Law" single on Spotify right now, at least here in the US.
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Post by Jack on Jul 15, 2020 14:12:16 GMT -5
What? It's already available digitally on Spotify and Amazon. I've had a 320kbs copy of it since 2011. You might want to re-evaluate your outlook on this. Not everything available in your country is exactly available everywhere. Nowhere does this exist as a CD rip online. No one has ever bothered to rip their CD of the single. Nor has anyone done a better Vinyl rip (see the Dying of the Light demo rip for example). This version is basically better than everyone else's copy, until someone actually rips their original CD copy to FLAC and then I could maybe just disregard this, but this version is definitely higher quality than your 320kbps version. Sorry. It sounds exactly the same as my copy. Sorry. And where does it say that the quality is better than anyone else's? It's literally just an uploaded mp3 to YouTube. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jul 15, 2020 15:47:32 GMT -5
Okay, definitely not where I expected the conversation to steer towards, but that is my own fault.
I just wanted everyone to focus on the Geo-restrictions on the track and how those restrictions are not there anymore. Take note of how the video is also 5 days old. It's been added to the "If I Had a Gun" playlist on Noel's channel 5 days ago.
A couple more things to note.
1. The video is not just "an MP3 upload", it is a fully distributed track to YouTube's evergrowing digital streaming platform containing Millions of tracks licensed to YouTube for streaming, free or Premium, through their app. Like Spotify.
2. YouTube doesn't "upload" songs anymore. They auto-generated the audio (auto-converts to video). For auto-generation to work it's magic, the artist has to properly submit the audio, artwork, Song ID registration, list all associated and affiliated performers on the track, who it's been licensed and published by, who the artist is, and what the name of the track is. Oh, and also the year.
3. YouTube simply doesn't "upload" these because they realised their entire back catalogue of audio data provided by artists and labels can be auto-generated rather than uploaded by a random user so the track can sit on their servers for no good. YouTube smartly invested in music years ago, and so far that's been paying off (hence YouTube Music). It sounds like the third here contradicts the second, but trust me, something is going on at Ignition.
YouTube doesn't auto-generate videos (yes, not upload) for no reason.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jul 15, 2020 16:24:29 GMT -5
I don't know. Don't know how else to explain the significance in the existence of this video. It's not just a regular upload.
I don't know. Not interested in explaining this any further now... Good luck.
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Post by schorman on Jul 15, 2020 18:42:05 GMT -5
Fair enough. It does seem it was Noel's only track that was missing from his youtube channel.
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Post by Jessica on Jul 15, 2020 20:43:24 GMT -5
They added/are adding lyric support to YouTube, so might have just been a way to try it out. Doesn't hurt when Sail On did pretty good.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 15, 2020 21:04:23 GMT -5
Just going to throw this weird one out there. 9 years since the If I Had a Gun single finally became a single, and I specifically remember a copy of the b-side in very, very low quality being leaked. Was that completely okay to live with? Not exactly, because whoever ripped their CD didn't do a good job and obviously screwed himself over, as well as their channel because the originally leaked audio video is clearly gone now. Obviously. Second, the track has DEFINITELY been available for the past 9 years, I am completely aware of that, but from an even lower, dustier vinyl rip. No offence to the Ripper, but have you ever heard of soap and water? Anyway... Here's "I'd Pick You Every Time" available for the first time, digitally, after 9 years. Not even joking. This is the first time we've had a good, better copy than our Vinyl copies (I'm looking at you 'Songs From the Great White North EP' rippers). What? It's already available digitally on Spotify and Amazon. I've had a 320kbs copy of it since 2011. This. Any real fan who was old enough to use a computer in 2011 bought the CD single and therefore had a perfectly good digital copy of the track way back then. And those who didn't go down that road were able to obtain the song in high quality from Spotify & iTunes etc. You talk as if Youtube is the only place to consume digital music. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jul 15, 2020 22:12:51 GMT -5
What? It's already available digitally on Spotify and Amazon. I've had a 320kbs copy of it since 2011. This. Any real fan who was old enough to use a computer in 2011 bought the CD single and therefore had a perfectly good digital copy of the track way back then. And those who didn't go down that road were able to obtain the song in high quality from Spotify & iTunes etc. You talk as if Youtube is the only place to consume digital music. Nope. I was just trying to speak about the significance of the video, and how high quality the audio is. Clearly this thread did nothing for you. Move along. |
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Post by Gerhard on Jul 16, 2020 2:08:47 GMT -5
to my knowledge, youtube is in high quality 265 kbps max... just buy cd/vinyl or stream from tidal/spotify
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 5:32:57 GMT -5
This upload is definitely one for the history books
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Post by LlAM on Jul 16, 2020 6:00:00 GMT -5
What? It's already available digitally on Spotify and Amazon. I've had a 320kbs copy of it since 2011. This. Any real fan who was old enough to use a computer in 2011 bought the CD single and therefore had a perfectly good digital copy of the track way back then. And those who didn't go down that road were able to obtain the song in high quality from Spotify & iTunes etc. You talk as if Youtube is the only place to consume digital music. I didn't buy the single then and I don't have it on my version of Spotify and I don't pay "Apple tax". This version is the best I've ever heard. Thanks. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 16, 2020 6:38:00 GMT -5
This. Any real fan who was old enough to use a computer in 2011 bought the CD single and therefore had a perfectly good digital copy of the track way back then. And those who didn't go down that road were able to obtain the song in high quality from Spotify & iTunes etc. You talk as if Youtube is the only place to consume digital music. I didn't buy the single then and I don't have it on my version of Spotify and I don't pay "Apple tax". This version is the best I've ever heard. Thanks. Buying music allows the music industry to exist. Thanks. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 16, 2020 6:42:55 GMT -5
This upload is definitely one for the history books |
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Post by eva on Jul 16, 2020 6:55:43 GMT -5
it's not like it's the holy grail of NGHFB's catalogue...
nice track but no different from what's already available IMO, and as far as I can see this youtube version is only 128kbps unless there's something different on youtube play or whatever the pay subscription may be called
I don't know, maybe it's that I'm old fashioned and I prefer to own and have everything instead of depending on whatever it's made available to stream at any given time
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Post by LlAM on Jul 16, 2020 7:40:35 GMT -5
I didn't buy the single then and I don't have it on my version of Spotify and I don't pay "Apple tax". This version is the best I've ever heard. Thanks. Buying music allows the music industry to exist. Thanks. Not buying that exact single doesn't make it cease to exist. Thanks. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 16, 2020 8:04:32 GMT -5
Buying music allows the music industry to exist. Thanks. Not buying that exact single doesn't make it cease to exist. Thanks. Imagine if everyone shared your view in 1994 and Definitely Maybe was a commercial failure. We may have never heard Wonderwall, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova etc. Thanks. |
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Post by Jack on Jul 16, 2020 9:26:32 GMT -5
it's not like it's the holy grail of NGHFB's catalogue... nice track but no different from what's already available IMO, and as far as I can see this youtube version is only 128kbps unless there's something different on youtube play or whatever the pay subscription may be called I don't know, maybe it's that I'm old fashioned and I prefer to own and have everything instead of depending on whatever it's made available to stream at any given time Agreed and agreed. |
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Post by schorman on Jul 16, 2020 15:58:53 GMT -5
to my knowledge, youtube is in high quality 265 kbps max... just buy cd/vinyl or stream from tidal/spotify Youtube is now only 128 kbps for audio, unless you pay for one of their premium memberships. |
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Post by glider on Jul 16, 2020 16:27:37 GMT -5
Meh, have had the 320 kb/s version for a while, not that good of a tune anyway.
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