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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 17, 2020 6:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on May 17, 2020 7:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by MacaRonic on May 17, 2020 7:21:19 GMT -5
The answer is indeed yes.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 17, 2020 7:22:30 GMT -5
Well they were arrogant but Noel is right to say they backed it up. For the period of those first two albums they had the best songs, the best frontman and in England anyway played to the most people.
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Post by GlastoEls on May 17, 2020 9:05:08 GMT -5
When you’re sitting on those early tunes, no.
When you’re sitting on Force of Nature, hmm!
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Post by LlAM on May 17, 2020 14:29:20 GMT -5
Were they the best band in the World?
For lots of people yes.
They were the best band in my world <3
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 21, 2021 13:49:04 GMT -5
I think that they were certainly arrogant but they were still the best band in the world.
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Post by walterglass on Apr 21, 2021 14:16:10 GMT -5
They were the real thing. Their early output, it’s “lightning in a bottle stuff”. There’s nothing arrogant about knowing your work is tremendously exciting.
‘98 onwards though. Well.
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Post by powerage09 on Apr 21, 2021 17:53:10 GMT -5
You would be too if the first track on your debut album was Rock n Roll Star. Genius.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 22, 2021 0:37:51 GMT -5
I'd have to say neither.
Not the best band in the world, but I don’t even believe in such a thing. They were a great band, a thrillingly unpredictable band, a fun band to obsess over, and among the most important bands in that moment when being massive rock and roll stars was having its last hurrah.
I’d say not all that arrogant either, not really, not under the skin. Always seemed they were partly having a laugh with all that boasting bravado--and partly going for broke with their one shot--and then after a while, they were just playing into the reputation that made them so famous. They had a highly entertaining swagger, as it should be.
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Post by andymorris on Apr 22, 2021 2:03:01 GMT -5
Bliss, not arrogance.
Bliss for writing all those huge songs that people enjoyed. Bliss to have such an amazing vocalist.
Bliss to come from nowhere and rule the world... i mean. Who wouldn't ?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 22, 2021 9:26:15 GMT -5
They came from nowhere and made it to the top of the world and manage to have a laugh through all of that, fuck all this "oh my God they're so arrogant" shit, they believed in themselves and it led them to were they belonged
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 22, 2021 18:16:39 GMT -5
I mean they're famously 2 of the most arrogant rock stars ever... how is this even up for debate? Some of the things they've said have been ridiculous.
The funny thing is it was there from day one. In the band's first ever interview back in 1991 one of the things the journalist makes note of is the band's arrogance. And this was off the back of the stuff Liam and Bonehead had written together!
Shortly before the band released their first single Noel said this: "You wanna know something? This band, in the next two years, will win the Eurovision Song Contest with a song called 'All Around The World'. It'll sail it by at least, ooooohh, 30 points. This is the track to end all tracks. We will win the Eurovision Song Contest. [...] It's like an 11 minute epic. Put it this way: if John Lennon had written this track, he'd have been shot five years earlier!" Imagine reading a statement like that by a band who had yet to have released anything. Unbelievable!
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 22, 2021 19:00:24 GMT -5
I mean they're famously 2 of the most arrogant rock stars ever... how is this even up for debate? Some of the things they've said have been ridiculous. The funny thing is it was there from day one. In the band's first ever interview back in 1991 one of the things the journalist makes note of is the band's arrogance. And this was off the back of the stuff Liam and Bonehead had written together! Shortly before the band released their first single Noel said this: " You wanna know something? This band, in the next two years, will win the Eurovision Song Contest with a song called 'All Around The World'. It'll sail it by at least, ooooohh, 30 points. This is the track to end all tracks. We will win the Eurovision Song Contest. [...] It's like an 11 minute epic. Put it this way: if John Lennon had written this track, he'd have been shot five years earlier!" Imagine reading a statement like that by a band who had yet to have released anything. Unbelievable! It's more hilarious to me than unbelievable. Obviously, they were playing around with being offensively over-the-top while also trying to conquer the world. It's not like the Gallaghers were the only people who had ever talked that way, they were simply taking a major tradition in rock and roll to the nth degree which is what was so fun about it (and a lot of what they did). The Beatles were bigger than Jesus decades before. Paul Weller's father (and manager) used to always announce The Jam as "The Best Fucking Band In The World" when Noel and Liam were still toddling around. Bragging was absolutely central to rap culture of the 80s and they grew up on that. The fact that it was done with a wink and a laugh back then is what made it work. That doesn't work forever, though. Eventually you get too rich and predictable to make it funny and then you just look deluded. |
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Post by jh on Apr 23, 2021 8:12:10 GMT -5
You would be too if the first track on your debut album was Rock n Roll Star. Genius. Yep. Set the standard early. No time for messing about. |
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Post by jh on Apr 23, 2021 8:14:31 GMT -5
They came from nowhere and made it to the top of the world and manage to have a laugh through all of that, fuck all this "oh my God they're so arrogant" shit, they believed in themselves and it led them to were they belonged Hard graft while enjoying every minute...fuck it..why not be arrogant. We wouldn't be hanging on each of the brothers social media outbursts if they were meek little twonks like the majority of PC so called celebrities we are littered with today. |
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 23, 2021 8:58:53 GMT -5
I mean they're famously 2 of the most arrogant rock stars ever... how is this even up for debate? Some of the things they've said have been ridiculous. The funny thing is it was there from day one. In the band's first ever interview back in 1991 one of the things the journalist makes note of is the band's arrogance. And this was off the back of the stuff Liam and Bonehead had written together! Shortly before the band released their first single Noel said this: " You wanna know something? This band, in the next two years, will win the Eurovision Song Contest with a song called 'All Around The World'. It'll sail it by at least, ooooohh, 30 points. This is the track to end all tracks. We will win the Eurovision Song Contest. [...] It's like an 11 minute epic. Put it this way: if John Lennon had written this track, he'd have been shot five years earlier!" Imagine reading a statement like that by a band who had yet to have released anything. Unbelievable! Is it not a bit mad that he called it this before the la-la-la second half of the track, let alone the reprise, had been written? I thought until 1997 it was more akin to the six-minute Mustique demo he recorded? |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 23, 2021 12:31:38 GMT -5
I mean they're famously 2 of the most arrogant rock stars ever... how is this even up for debate? Some of the things they've said have been ridiculous. The funny thing is it was there from day one. In the band's first ever interview back in 1991 one of the things the journalist makes note of is the band's arrogance. And this was off the back of the stuff Liam and Bonehead had written together! Shortly before the band released their first single Noel said this: " You wanna know something? This band, in the next two years, will win the Eurovision Song Contest with a song called 'All Around The World'. It'll sail it by at least, ooooohh, 30 points. This is the track to end all tracks. We will win the Eurovision Song Contest. [...] It's like an 11 minute epic. Put it this way: if John Lennon had written this track, he'd have been shot five years earlier!" Imagine reading a statement like that by a band who had yet to have released anything. Unbelievable! Is it not a bit mad that he called it this before the la-la-la second half of the track, let alone the reprise, had been written? I thought until 1997 it was more akin to the six-minute Mustique demo he recorded? Yeah for sure. There's an even earlier undated demo* which is even shorter (just under 6 minutes). Maybe it fluctuated in length over time? Maybe Noel was envisioning it as something he'd expand on in the studio? Maybe he was just exaggerating? Who knows? *It's officially labelled as a demo but it's likely an early acoustic soundcheck soundcheck performance. |
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Post by quantum on Jun 4, 2021 4:31:45 GMT -5
The funny thing is it was there from day one. In the band's first ever interview back in 1991 one of the things the journalist makes note of is the band's arrogance. And this was off the back of the stuff Liam and Bonehead had written together! Oh boy! Thank God Noel came along  Mind this doesn't sound like the actions of someone filled with confidence and arrogance |
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Post by yogurt on Jul 22, 2021 16:39:06 GMT -5
Well I doubt a best band in the world exists, one mans Oasis is another mans Slayer.
I don’t think they were arrogant per se, just a few lads who rightly believed they had a very good band.
I think Noel got a bit pompous as he got older and Liam become a bit of an exaggerated version of himself, but I never found them to be particularly arrogant.
I also think they were self aware though and they knowingly spoke in a way that was going to get attention.
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