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Post by stillilllife on Apr 6, 2020 17:56:54 GMT -5
What do you think the structure of the arrangement would look like?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 6, 2020 17:59:25 GMT -5
The one part would have come after the other thing following the nanananas.
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Post by World71R on Apr 6, 2020 22:31:40 GMT -5
Structure-wise, I think it would've been much, much more concise and focused, especially if it had been made for MG. Think of how Champagne Supernova is and how every little bit contributes to the song and the way it builds.
There are so many different guitar licks and transition sections that get buried by Liam's "Na na na"s, plus the production is so overblown that it feels like it's at 11 to start, even if it does build.
Give it The Masterplan treatment with the instrumental, too, so that way every little bit is heard and not drowned out by the guitars. I'd also spare the song the "Na na na na"s and the ones in the outro would be more distant to give it more of an ethereal feel (a la Embrace's All You Good Good People), while also incorporating the Reprise's outro into the song.
AATW is one of the best things that Oasis ever did, even if the final product was mismanaged in a way that stopped the song from reaching its full potential; but such is Be Here Now as a whole.
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Post by World71R on Apr 6, 2020 23:03:41 GMT -5
A good example of letting the guitar riffs fill the space instead of the "Na na na na"s comes at 2:35 here
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 7, 2020 2:27:49 GMT -5
That whole first na-na-na section would probably be gone. The song has two middle-eights, early Oasis would have made it pick one!
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Post by stillilllife on Apr 7, 2020 5:22:56 GMT -5
A good example of letting the guitar riffs fill the space instead of the "Na na na na"s comes at 2:35 here That's kind of like the 1992 rehearsal!: |
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Post by stillilllife on Apr 7, 2020 5:34:16 GMT -5
Just listened to this demo for the first time. Does anyone know what year it is from? There seems to be no consensus.
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Post by stillilllife on Apr 7, 2020 8:21:24 GMT -5
I just made an edit of the song which I'm really satisfied with (apart from a chipmunk towards the end), based on the structure of Noel's demo mostly.
Is it okay to share it here, or are there rules against that?
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Post by Headmaster on Apr 7, 2020 9:08:31 GMT -5
It would be way shorter and more streamlined, something closer to Slide Away.
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Post by underneaththesky on Apr 7, 2020 9:48:33 GMT -5
love that he kept this and Dont Go Away out of MG.
what the hel this second album could have been
AATW AND Champagne Supernova on one album?
1. Hello
2. Roll With It
3. Wonderwall
4. Don't Look Back in Anger
5. Hey Now
6. Some Might Say
7. Cast No Shadow
8. Don't Go Away
9. She's Electric
10. All Around The World
11. Morning Glory
12. Champagne Supernova
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 7, 2020 11:17:06 GMT -5
Presumably notably more concise like the on the demo but even that's a slog. That bloody chorus. The 1997 version mixes things up somewhat but 9:38 is ridiculous. Then you've got a reprise to listen too! Dear god. The whole thing wants a good 3 minutes chopping off. And don't even get me started on the production.
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Post by World71R on Apr 7, 2020 13:14:56 GMT -5
This gets me thinking:
The guys wanted to do something big and bold for BHN, which is why there are so many damn guitar layers and compressed production, but just imagine if the focus had been on:
More creative guitar licks, more brass and strings sections, more piano parts, and even dabbling in some electronica and other forms of rock music, while still having some of those loud guitars from MG and DM.
I think that would've set the band up for a great start to the 21st century while still giving them a big and bold finish to a glorious decade for them.
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Post by oasisunited on Apr 7, 2020 13:23:48 GMT -5
Presumably notably more concise like the on the demo but even that's a slog. That bloody chorus. The 1997 version mixes things up somewhat but 9:38 is ridiculous. Then you've got a reprise to listen too! Dear god. The whole thing wants a good 3 minutes chopping off. And don't even get me started on the production. It's only out done by It's Getting Better (Man!!): If that isn't a conversation between two people high on charlie, I don't know what is. |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Apr 7, 2020 14:09:06 GMT -5
Just listened to this demo for the first time. Does anyone know what year it is from? There seems to be no consensus. BHN 2016 Reissue Japanese Bonus Track. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 7, 2020 15:03:20 GMT -5
Never change a thing, mate...
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Post by stillilllife on Apr 7, 2020 15:28:44 GMT -5
I just made an edit of the song which I'm really satisfied with (apart from a chipmunk towards the end), based on the structure of Noel's demo mostly. Is it okay to share it here, or are there rules against that? There we go! My edit. Listen and hopefully enjoy. |
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