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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 8, 2024 4:01:46 GMT -5
Don’t bother checking out Kneecap. They’re crap and full of sectarian shite. I really like their album producer, Toddla T, but yeah, I must be getting old because the band name and balaclava image are quite off putting. That and they remind me of The Goldie Lookin’ Chain 😅 They’re absolutely playing up to sectarian bullshit which is starting to rear its ugly head again in Ireland. Young lads who didn’t live through the troubles who think shouting “Up the Ra!” is cool. Every bit as bad as the idiots that build giant bonfires and set them on fire in the middle of a housing estate.
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Post by Derrick on Jul 8, 2024 15:45:43 GMT -5
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 9, 2024 2:10:13 GMT -5
Did we ever unearth what that mystery illness he had was around the Chasing Yesterday era?
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Post by AlissonBrazil on Jul 9, 2024 10:46:30 GMT -5
Played opening night of DBBT tour No footage what so ever of the nigjt - someone said they saw Lyla on YouTube. But maybe you can find it ? I can’t Rumours are he gave up halfway through the song Noel as you’ve probably heard on the podcast said I don’t recall playing the song that night But set list fm says it’s there There was a review by the NME And they didn’t mention Liam was particularly bad that night But then again - coming off glasto 2004 Maybe Liam sounded better overall that night For Instance may 12th? Alacaraz he sounds fine for the most part Thats from Buenos Aires 10th March 2006. Not the Astoria gig.
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 9, 2024 12:38:19 GMT -5
I read about that the other day but forgot to mention it. Let's hope that it all goes well like Liam's hip operation did.
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Post by Derrick on Jul 9, 2024 15:12:15 GMT -5
Did we ever unearth what that mystery illness he had was around the Chasing Yesterday era? It was salmonella, that caused him to become very skinny.
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Post by Firefly on Jul 11, 2024 6:19:33 GMT -5
I'm not a subscriber of the podcast but have heard snippets from mate who is. Noel is closing the studio down until Jan, which is a bit of a worry. He seems to be having a bit of a hard time of late from what he's said and can't get on with making albums so instead of forcing the process he's said he's going to wait for the songs to come to him, whatever that means. Hope this isn't a bad sign.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 11, 2024 7:48:33 GMT -5
I'm not a subscriber of the podcast but have heard snippets from mate who is. Noel is closing the studio down until Jan, which is a bit of a worry. He seems to be having a bit of a hard time of late from what he's said and can't get on with making albums so instead of forcing the process he's said he's going to wait for the songs to come to him, whatever that means. Hope this isn't a bad sign. Like he's just not gonna go to his studio to record or finances are catching up and he's closing up shop completely?
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Post by Firefly on Jul 11, 2024 9:35:11 GMT -5
I'm not a subscriber of the podcast but have heard snippets from mate who is. Noel is closing the studio down until Jan, which is a bit of a worry. He seems to be having a bit of a hard time of late from what he's said and can't get on with making albums so instead of forcing the process he's said he's going to wait for the songs to come to him, whatever that means. Hope this isn't a bad sign. Like he's just not gonna go to his studio to record or finances are catching up and he's closing up shop completely? I typed out what he says word for word from the clip I was sent. “I haven’t actually written anything for quite a fucking while now, I’ve gotten away from it. I’ve shut my studio down until next year. I got to the point where I was thinking right, what am I doing, I’m living to work here, I’ve got this the wrong way round. I used to work to live, you know, and now I’m - I was in the studio every day and I’m not putting a record out next year and probably not one the year after that and I’ve still got a few gigs to wrap up. And I was thinking what am I fucking doing, being at the studio every day from midday for 6 hours and I’ve no fucking reason to be here. You know, I’m not doing anything…there’s no…so…I’ve kind of paid everybody off for six months and just said you know what, let’s rendezvous back here in January and actually I’ve been having a great time ever since." And later on he says this about Council Skies: “After living with that album now for a year I think it’s as close to perfect as I could ever get a record…I fucking love that album and actually it was one of the reasons why I thought why am I trying to follow this up now. There isn’t a fucking note out of place and I’ve got nothing left to say. I’ve said all I’ve got to say for now in that record and it’s my favourite album I’ve ever done." And then in the same podcast he says he's gonna let the songs come to him. So yeah, not sure what to make of it, but not filled with confidence. What does everyone else think?
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Post by quantum on Jul 11, 2024 9:47:37 GMT -5
Like he's just not gonna go to his studio to record or finances are catching up and he's closing up shop completely? I typed out what he says word for word from the clip I was sent. “I haven’t actually written anything for quite a fucking while now, I’ve gotten away from it. I’ve shut my studio down until next year. I got to the point where I was thinking right, what am I doing, I’m living to work here, I’ve got this the wrong way round. I used to work to live, you know, and now I’m - I was in the studio every day and I’m not putting a record out next year and probably not one the year after that and I’ve still got a few gigs to wrap up. And I was thinking what am I fucking doing, being at the studio every day from midday for 6 hours and I’ve no fucking reason to be here. You know, I’m not doing anything…there’s no…so…I’ve kind of paid everybody off for six months and just said you know what, let’s rendezvous back here in January and actually I’ve been having a great time ever since." And later on he says this about Council Skies: “After living with that album now for a year I think it’s as close to perfect as I could ever get a record…I fucking love that album and actually it was one of the reasons why I thought why am I trying to follow this up now. There isn’t a fucking note out of place and I’ve got nothing left to say. I’ve said all I’ve got to say for now in that record and it’s my favourite album I’ve ever done." And then in the same podcast he says he's gonna let the songs come to him. So yeah, not sure what to make of it, but not filled with confidence. What does everyone else think? He's recently gone through a divorce, has tons of cash and was pushing himself to do something he doesn't have to do. It's probably a good call, as you can't force the songs. So take a break and try again in 6 months. Downside is he's not going to release much in the next few years eh?
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jul 11, 2024 10:19:42 GMT -5
Well, that's a huge bummer. 2027 is a long way away...
I don't understand how he came out of lockdown with "30-40 songs" and now this. I'm generally not fan of Oasis reunion chatter, but I think it would boost Noel's spirit to go on huge WTSMG anniversary tour -- get back some of that mojo.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 11, 2024 10:42:51 GMT -5
Like he's just not gonna go to his studio to record or finances are catching up and he's closing up shop completely? I typed out what he says word for word from the clip I was sent. “I haven’t actually written anything for quite a fucking while now, I’ve gotten away from it. I’ve shut my studio down until next year. I got to the point where I was thinking right, what am I doing, I’m living to work here, I’ve got this the wrong way round. I used to work to live, you know, and now I’m - I was in the studio every day and I’m not putting a record out next year and probably not one the year after that and I’ve still got a few gigs to wrap up. And I was thinking what am I fucking doing, being at the studio every day from midday for 6 hours and I’ve no fucking reason to be here. You know, I’m not doing anything…there’s no…so…I’ve kind of paid everybody off for six months and just said you know what, let’s rendezvous back here in January and actually I’ve been having a great time ever since." And later on he says this about Council Skies: “After living with that album now for a year I think it’s as close to perfect as I could ever get a record…I fucking love that album and actually it was one of the reasons why I thought why am I trying to follow this up now. There isn’t a fucking note out of place and I’ve got nothing left to say. I’ve said all I’ve got to say for now in that record and it’s my favourite album I’ve ever done." And then in the same podcast he says he's gonna let the songs come to him. So yeah, not sure what to make of it, but not filled with confidence. What does everyone else think? Looks like he’s repeating the same lessons from 1998-2005 when he kept going to Wheeler End, making demos that sounded almost complete and then struggling mightily to re-record them and then getting frustrated by the results and eventually ending his lease on the studio.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 11, 2024 12:10:56 GMT -5
Looks like my prediction of a follow up to Council Skies in 2025 was bang on the money!
Seriously though, couldn't Noel offer his studio out to other artists while he isn't using it to pay the bills? That way if Noel felt inspired he could drop in and record some demos whenever he fancied it?
It seems crazy to shut the doors for an extended period of time. Why spend all that money making it in the first place?!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 11, 2024 12:19:15 GMT -5
Looks like my prediction of a follow up to Council Skies in 2025 was bang on the money! Seriously though, couldn't Noel offer his studio out to other artists while he isn't using it to pay the bills? That way if Noel felt inspired he could drop in and record some demos whenever he fancied it? It seems crazy to shut the doors for an extended period of time. Why spend all that money making it in the first place?! I wish Noel caught the bug that Jeff Tweedy and Thom Yorke have since turning 50. Constantly pumping out music yearly because they both said they know they have less time than more and gotta take advantage of being healthy and able.
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Post by dadrocker on Jul 11, 2024 12:23:55 GMT -5
Looks like my prediction of a follow up to Council Skies in 2025 was bang on the money! Seriously though, couldn't Noel offer his studio out to other artists while he isn't using it to pay the bills? That way if Noel felt inspired he could drop in and record some demos whenever he fancied it? It seems crazy to shut the doors for an extended period of time. Why spend all that money making it in the first place?! I wish Noel caught the bug that Jeff Tweedy and Thom Yorke have since turning 50. Constantly pumping out music yearly because they both said they know they have less time than more and gotta take advantage of being healthy and able. Well he is going to Live Forever, ya know...
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Post by shadowplay on Jul 11, 2024 12:42:04 GMT -5
I get what he's saying about struggling to follow up something that he feels is his best work. Even if he does have a lot of good songs ready to go if they don't live up to the quality he perceives Council Skies to be that must be frustrating because in this stage of his career he doesn't feel like he needs to phone it in or put something out for the sake of it.
But while Council Skies was generally well received you'd struggle to find fans who genuinely believe that it's his best work even as a solo artist. So you'll have a lot of fans hearing that and not understanding why he feels the way he does right now and could conceivably see themselves enjoying whatever he was going to put out next more than they did Council Skies. For example I've never got the sense from Noel that he ever felt that passionately about Chasing yesterday but fans generally loved it and from that perspective as a fan you'd be thinking you'd just want him to carry on releasing music even if he doesn't feel it lives up to his previous work because we might enjoy it more than he does. But I do get what he's saying from his point of view.
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Post by Firefly on Jul 11, 2024 14:32:01 GMT -5
Looks like my prediction of a follow up to Council Skies in 2025 was bang on the money! Seriously though, couldn't Noel offer his studio out to other artists while he isn't using it to pay the bills? That way if Noel felt inspired he could drop in and record some demos whenever he fancied it? It seems crazy to shut the doors for an extended period of time. Why spend all that money making it in the first place?! Yeah he said he's renting it out. I get the divorce has hit him hard and he still needs time to get over it but I just get alarm bells ringing the way he was saying he's got nothing left to say and how Council Skies is the pinnacle of his career to date. It's a good album, but it's not that good. He said he prefers it over Oasis albums! And for once I don't think he was just doing his usual bigging up of the latest. I think he means it, like he's obviously got this massive emotional connection to it (break up album, songs about his ex wife etc) that it's like he's having a hard time letting go of that album. I'm worried he'll never get over it enough to make more music.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 11, 2024 16:09:45 GMT -5
Looks like my prediction of a follow up to Council Skies in 2025 was bang on the money! Seriously though, couldn't Noel offer his studio out to other artists while he isn't using it to pay the bills? That way if Noel felt inspired he could drop in and record some demos whenever he fancied it? It seems crazy to shut the doors for an extended period of time. Why spend all that money making it in the first place?! I'm sure he can/will still do that if the interest is there. It just means he's not got people sat around in there all day. Good that he's paid them, at least!
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Post by quantum on Jul 12, 2024 3:32:38 GMT -5
Noel forget about new songs. Line up some massive Oasis reunion gigs for 2025 and fill the (overflowing) coffers/ego.
Don't worry about any new Oasis material, just have a blast doing some huge gigs... and then reflect and see what's next.
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Post by dadrocker on Jul 12, 2024 8:15:46 GMT -5
Noel forget about new songs. Line up some massive Oasis reunion gigs for 2025 and fill the (overflowing) coffers/ego. Don't worry about any new Oasis material, just have a blast doing some huge gigs... and then reflect and see what's next. He just got out of one bad relationship, why go back to another one?
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Jul 13, 2024 9:42:02 GMT -5
Tbf I got out of a bad and long relationship one month ago and I’m feeling better already. Noel got out a couple years ago and seems to be completely fucked off.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 13, 2024 10:39:39 GMT -5
Tbf I got out of a bad and long relationship one month ago and I’m feeling better already. Noel got out a couple years ago and seems to be completely fucked off. Yeah but I don't think Noel's relationship was 'bad'. Sorry to hear what you went through, but Noel worshipped the ground Sara walked on. She gave him his two boys and they were together from SOTSOG - the Eps. A very long stretch of time. It sounds like it was just Lockdown and Noel still wanting to go out and get pissed that ruined things. I can't see it being him who ended things.
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Jul 13, 2024 16:25:13 GMT -5
Tbf I got out of a bad and long relationship one month ago and I’m feeling better already. Noel got out a couple years ago and seems to be completely fucked off. Yeah but I don't think Noel's relationship was 'bad'. Sorry to hear what you went through, but Noel worshipped the ground Sara walked on. She gave him his two boys and they were together from SOTSOG - the Eps. A very long stretch of time. It sounds like it was just Lockdown and Noel still wanting to go out and get pissed that ruined things. I can't see it being him who ended things. Yes probably you are right on this
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jul 15, 2024 16:39:51 GMT -5
Well, that's a huge bummer. 2027 is a long way away... I don't understand how he came out of lockdown with "30-40 songs" and now this. I'm generally not fan of Oasis reunion chatter, but I think it would boost Noel's spirit to go on huge WTSMG anniversary tour -- get back some of that mojo. Completely agree. But I'm afraid he'll avoid any comparison to whatever liam's doing and Liam's been smashing with the DM anniversary tour, I bet he'll do the same for MG, perhaps even bigger. But an anniversary acoustic tour with an orchestra would be perfect for Noel
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Post by bt95 on Jul 15, 2024 17:02:22 GMT -5
Tbf I got out of a bad and long relationship one month ago and I’m feeling better already. Noel got out a couple years ago and seems to be completely fucked off. Yeah but I don't think Noel's relationship was 'bad'. Sorry to hear what you went through, but Noel worshipped the ground Sara walked on. She gave him his two boys and they were together from SOTSOG - the Eps. A very long stretch of time. It sounds like it was just Lockdown and Noel still wanting to go out and get pissed that ruined things. I can't see it being him who ended things. Tbf based on some speculation at the time it was very much the opposite of that. Relationships end all the time and usually it's very much down to both people in it.
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