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Post by Manualex on Apr 6, 2024 21:33:38 GMT -5
I've always liked DTD pretty well. Is that an unpopular opinion? Do the damage is a great tune. I had it opening a playlist of my favourite solo songs from the chief The only bad thing about Do The Damage is that they repurposed the first heat of the moment video for it and it's crap. |
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Post by carlober on Apr 7, 2024 2:22:24 GMT -5
Do the damage is a great tune. I had it opening a playlist of my favourite solo songs from the chief I'm really glad I got to see him open a show with it. It only lasted a little while. A very underrated tune, especially live. It's a great live tune indeed. Underrated for sure. |
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Post by matt on Apr 7, 2024 9:07:40 GMT -5
Do the damage is a great tune. I had it opening a playlist of my favourite solo songs from the chief The only bad thing about Do The Damage is that they repurposed the first heat of the moment video for it and it's crap. Must admit those Mike Bruce videos were awful. Really have to question Noel's film tastes here! |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 7, 2024 10:47:35 GMT -5
I dunno why they bother with videos anymore. Surely the visualisers they throw up are enough? Does anyone watch videos anymore? I buy everything Noel puts out, often in multiple formats and pressings but I’m sure there are videos of his I’ve never watched.
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 7, 2024 12:31:56 GMT -5
What would a “Noel Rock” album look like? Let’s cobble one together from his solo career. Everybody’s On The Run (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach In The Heat of The Moment Lock All The Doors You Know We Can’t Go Back Do The Damage Freaky Teeth The Man Who Built The Moon Come On Outside Love Is A Rich Man I enjoy or really love all of those except the last one, so I'd say we're in good shape. I like all of those songs except Freaky Teeth, I just can't get into that tune. |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Apr 7, 2024 14:01:06 GMT -5
I dunno why they bother with videos anymore. Surely the visualisers they throw up are enough? Does anyone watch videos anymore? I buy everything Noel puts out, often in multiple formats and pressings but I’m sure there are videos of his I’ve never watched. Yeah I love videos - the visualisers are awful. I've got a USB that has a video clip for nearly every Oasis or Noel or Liam song on it (either a promo clip or a pro-shot live performance or a newly assembled clip made from documentary footage). It runs for 23 hours. No song featured more than once. Often have it playing over the weekend. Can either kick back and watch the clips or just listen to the songs playing through the surround sound. So far Liam's latest album is a bit of an issue with only three video clips and no pro-shot live performances of the other songs but I've assembled a few temporary clips using stock footage and other stuff that will bridge the gap for the moment. Being a USB it's easy to just swap an old video clip out for a new one when it turns up (each song is a different single video file). So bring them on - the more videos the better. And if they can't be bothered making a video at least put up some pro-shot concert footage or spend an afternoon miming along to the album in the studio. Enough of these awful visualizers please! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 8, 2024 9:44:53 GMT -5
I dunno why they bother with videos anymore. Surely the visualisers they throw up are enough? Does anyone watch videos anymore? I buy everything Noel puts out, often in multiple formats and pressings but I’m sure there are videos of his I’ve never watched. I guess it's just to push the singles a tiny bit more, but yeah they don't make much sense for someone like Noel where the visuals have never really been *that* important They still makes sense for pop acts to help define certain "eras", and for underground artists whose creativity informs and relies on the whole package |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Apr 8, 2024 10:05:29 GMT -5
For the people with questions and no access to the podcast, I was going back over it to check about the EP thing and then my other half offered to type out a transcript of the bit where he talks about it, my typing is rubbish. So hopefully that's allowed here. If not mods please delete. Just thought people would appreciate the info. Noel: By the way, I’ve scrapped the acoustic album finally, can’t fucking do it anymore. Yeah, it got six tunes in, and I was so bored with the arrangement of it all and the kind of slow pace of it all and, actually what made me think, right fuck it, I’m not doing it, is they’re all songs about a broken heart, that kind of thing, and I thought nah. It started to sound like Council Skies without the string arrangement, do you know what I mean. It was the same kind of vibe or mood shall we say. I think it’s time to make a defiant rock record which is what I’m gonna start when I get back [from the Maldives] Matt: Could you repurpose those songs? Noel: Yes. Let’s put it this way none of them are gonna go on this new record I’m starting on Monday. They’re just - it’s the wrong - I had the idea of instead of making an album, maybe doing a couple of EPs, do you know what I mean, and putting them out. It was too down. Acoustic tunes tend to be quite down and I think Council Skies had a bit of that to it, bit of a mood to it and I was like, no that took me fucking two years to make that record in that head space and I need to make a defiant rock record and that’s what I’m gonna do. Sorry everyone. I do apologise if anyone had their hearts set on it. Matt: When you say defiant rock record, are we talking…no electronic stuff… Noel: No, I’ve got an idea of how I’m going to approach it. I’ve got a lot of songs as you know yourself. I’ve got a LOT of songs and Council Skies, I would say, was the best - not the best - but it had three different things to it: there was kind of uplifting accousticy things, there was a bit of melancholy to it and there was a bit of like, you know, rock and roll pop music to it. And so that was an overall - I think it’s the best High Flying Birds album and actually it’s the first album I’ve made bar Definitely Maybe that I would say that is perfect. Every record I make tends to have some flaw to it that I think, right I’ll fix that next time, there’s something I don’t like about it. Well, I’m still listening to Council Skies and going it’s fucking perfect. There’s nothing I could take away or add to that to make it any better than what it is. So I’m gonna make a - all Marshall amps. That’s what I’m doing. Matt: In terms of back catalogue what would be the landmark that you - cos when you say raucous rock - Noel: No, it’s not - listen - it’s not Bring It On Down. I’m fucking 57 this year, do you know what I mean. It’s not like, I’m not gonna be fucking writing Welcome To The Jungle, you know. Matt: I’d love it if you did that. Noel: Be more like - Matt Welcome to the Rotisserie in Waitrose... [bit of laughing and joking around about that] Noel: I’ve already got the title. Something to do with Eastbound and Down that none of you have got yet. And I’ve already shot the cover [when he was in Vegas with the kids, he took a pic of Sonny standing on a rocky hill] Matt: When will that [rock album] be out. Noel: I don’t know. Let me see where we end up. By the time I get to the end of this year and I finish touring after August…so in my head now if I could demo it all by the end of the year or start to record it proper by the end of the year, could be… dunno…not next year cos then I’d have to go back out on tour next year and I’m not doing that. 2026 maybe? Wow, I wasen't particulary excited about the acoustic album but from what Noel said it's exactly what I was afraid of: a stripped down version of Council Skies. I love Dead to The World but a whole cd of it, World Thats Been And Gone and Easy Now does not excite me. I'm sort of glad it got scrapped. When people claime they want acoustic Noel they're talking about Dead In The Water, TDOTL and IIHAG type of song. I do hope he goes off to an acoustic tour with an orchestra playing only Oasis tunes (another of Noel's old promises) I actually laughed out loud learning he's still pulling the "as good as DM" so many years later. I mean, he said that about every single album. |
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Apr 9, 2024 3:23:50 GMT -5
Does he really have to demo the albums to perfection and then record them again?
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Post by naruosaka on Apr 9, 2024 13:30:07 GMT -5
Does he really have to demo the albums to perfection and then record them again? Without perfection, it wouldn t be Noel. |
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Post by carlober on Apr 9, 2024 16:21:19 GMT -5
Does he really have to demo the albums to perfection and then record them again? And then having people on the net saying that the demo was better  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 9, 2024 17:06:11 GMT -5
Does he really have to demo the albums to perfection and then record them again? And then having people on the net saying that the demo was better That’s why he dumped Wheeler End. Demos were basically studio cuts and it was hard to recapture the magic when recording for the album officially. |
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Post by warewolf95 on Apr 10, 2024 10:08:24 GMT -5
Does he really have to demo the albums to perfection and then record them again? And then having people on the net saying that the demo was better It's so strange hearing something like the album version of "Lyla" forever, then you hear the "demo" with Noel on vocals and it sounds exactly the same (minus the vocals)..... It's such a brainfuck how a demo can sound so album-ready that they just go ahead and use it on, well, the album!!! |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Apr 11, 2024 19:41:46 GMT -5
Even though Noel attempts to explain it, I’m still trying to figure out what a “defiant” rock album means, or if there’s an example of it?
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Post by joladella on Apr 11, 2024 23:16:08 GMT -5
Even though Noel attempts to explain it, I’m still trying to figure out what a “defiant” rock album means, or if there’s an example of it? Called Defiantly Maybe! |
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Post by 2nz on Apr 12, 2024 2:24:38 GMT -5
And then having people on the net saying that the demo was better It's so strange hearing something like the album version of "Lyla" forever, then you hear the "demo" with Noel on vocals and it sounds exactly the same (minus the vocals)..... It's such a brainfuck how a demo can sound so album-ready that they just go ahead and use it on, well, the album!!! I think it's very much a Noel problem- he seems to use the Staceys as a demo crew and seems to always have a vision of what he wants. It might stem from Liam having no creative input in the process and a fairly shoddy attitude- everything had to be spelled out for him. Don't think he could see a few chords and a scratch vocal turning into a full song. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 12, 2024 7:42:24 GMT -5
Even though Noel attempts to explain it, I’m still trying to figure out what a “defiant” rock album means, or if there’s an example of it? Called Defiantly Maybe! Very nice. |
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Post by dadrocker on Apr 12, 2024 9:05:23 GMT -5
Defiantly Look Back In Anger
To me, a defiant rock album would be something with the ethos of punk perhaps? Or rock'n'roll as it used to be known before it became infused with pop and such. Something raging against the state or what have you.
Will an almost 60 year old make a good one of those? Or will this just be another Noel-ism and end up something more middle of the road upon release? Is he just talking about the music perhaps, and not the lyrics? Who the hell knows.
It probably sounds like the Stones doing the La's who were watching the Kinks on TV with Helter Skelter playing in the background. Duh.
My actual guess is he improved his mood after his divorce and got back his 'mojo' and the songs that came out of that were 'defiantly' different than the sad acoustic album from a music (obviously since it's a rock album) and lyric perspective. He might have had that lovely feeling you get after being depressed or the first day you don't feel sick anymore after a week on the couch feeling and went with it. Probably something about enjoying life again instead of wallowing. Like Live Forever. But obviously not the 'same' although a group of people will take everything he says about it literally for some reason as if he's gonna write Definitely Maybe 2 decades later. *eyeroll*
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Apr 23, 2024 12:03:24 GMT -5
By the time 2026 rolls in, what are the chances this “defiant rock album” will have given way to just a normal new album from Noel -- aka, a mix of rockers and ballads.
Also, need to add Acoustic Album to the mentioned-but-never-happened let down list:
- The Bond Theme Song
- The Double Album
- The AA Album
- The Covers Album
- 2nd Album with David Holmes
- DIV Sessions (Oasis)
- NG Acoustic Album
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 23, 2024 12:10:55 GMT -5
By the time 2026 rolls in, what are the chances this “defiant rock album” will have given way to just a normal new album from Noel -- aka, a mix of rockers and ballads. Also, need to add Acoustic Album to the mentioned-but-never-happened let down list: - The Bond Theme Song - The Double Album - The AA Album - The Covers Album - 2nd Album with David Holmes - DIV Sessions (Oasis) - NG Acoustic Album Alternate reality Noel is way cooler than our world’s Noel. More balls. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 23, 2024 12:17:47 GMT -5
By the time 2026 rolls in, what are the chances this “defiant rock album” will have given way to just a normal new album from Noel -- aka, a mix of rockers and ballads. Also, need to add Acoustic Album to the mentioned-but-never-happened let down list: - The Bond Theme Song - The Double Album - The AA Album - The Covers Album - 2nd Album with David Holmes - DIV Sessions (Oasis) - NG Acoustic Album Don’t think we can really hold the Bond theme against him to be fair! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 23, 2024 13:18:07 GMT -5
By the time 2026 rolls in, what are the chances this “defiant rock album” will have given way to just a normal new album from Noel -- aka, a mix of rockers and ballads. Also, need to add Acoustic Album to the mentioned-but-never-happened let down list: - The Bond Theme Song - The Double Album - The AA Album - The Covers Album - 2nd Album with David Holmes - DIV Sessions (Oasis) - NG Acoustic Album Don’t think we can really hold the Bond theme against him to be fair! Plus the bond theme was “Freaky Teeth” which in my opinion wasn’t recorded properly. It’s far too slow. Missing those killer keys from the live version. |
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Post by The Chief on Apr 23, 2024 14:40:07 GMT -5
I heard the demo of Liam singing Freaky Teeth on youtube. Sounds awesome dudes. You mean the AI version... |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 23, 2024 14:51:10 GMT -5
Fuck AI
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 23, 2024 14:51:29 GMT -5
Don’t think we can really hold the Bond theme against him to be fair! Plus the bond theme was “Freaky Teeth” which in my opinion wasn’t recorded properly. It’s far too slow. Missing those killer keys from the live version. So fucking good live |
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