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Post by wallydog on Jan 22, 2020 12:47:14 GMT -5
Some Might Say – The Definitive Story of Oasis: The Official Book Of The Oasis Podcast.
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 22, 2020 13:08:14 GMT -5
Should've been called: The Nature Of Reality: The Definitive Story Of Oasis
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Post by marla on Jul 18, 2020 13:21:51 GMT -5
So I just read the book and I have to say that I am disappointed. It doesn't go that much in depth and the last part is very rushed, as if the 2000s didn't deserve that much attention. Of course, they weren't at their prime anymore but I still think it would have been interesting to analyze that period (espicially considering the documentary didn't do it), see how Oasis were kind of has-beens but still managed to get number 1 albums and singles and fill stadiums around the world, which not every band/artist can say after the golden days are gone. It also includes quotes from the BigUn, aka the guy who tried to sue Oasis because he introduced Liam to Bonehead, and I think it's sad to see him get the attention he does not deserve (still remember when he came here and insulted people). You can also find a laughable quote by Mary McGuigan saying that Oasis could have made it without Noel thanks to Liam and Bonehead. I mean, Liam is a fantastic singer and Bonehead is a good musican (but not great) but that would have been pointless without the songs.
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Post by Derrick on Jul 18, 2020 17:09:50 GMT -5
So I just read the book and I have to say that I am disappointed. It doesn't go that much in depth and the last part is very rushed, as if the 2000s didn't deserve that much attention. Of course, they weren't at their prime anymore but I still think it would have been interesting to analyze that period (espicially considering the documentary didn't do it), see how Oasis were kind of has-beens but still managed to get number 1 albums and singles and fill stadiums (even in the US), which not every band/artist can say after the golden days are gone. It also includes quotes from the BigUn, aka the guy who tried to sue Oasis because he introduced Liam to Bonehead, and I think it's sad to see him get the attention he does not deserve (still remember when he came here and insulted people). You can also find a laughable quote by Mary McGuigan saying that Oasis could have made it without Noel thanks to Liam and Bonehead. I mean, Liam is a fantastic singer and Bonehead is a good musican (but not great) but that would have been pointless without the songs. Thanks for your comment, you're the first one on this forum to review this book. I'm actually not surprised it doesn't go in depth as it's too short for that: less than 400 pages, & it's not all text as there are many pictures (not a bad thing in itself, I like biographies to include pictures of their subject); a really comprehensive book covering the whole 18 years of the band's career would require at least 600 pages without the pictures. I'm still hoping someday someone will write that book 🤞
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Post by drewsky34 on Jul 18, 2020 23:21:41 GMT -5
So I just read the book and I have to say that I am disappointed. It doesn't go that much in depth and the last part is very rushed, as if the 2000s didn't deserve that much attention. Of course, they weren't at their prime anymore but I still think it would have been interesting to analyze that period (espicially considering the documentary didn't do it), see how Oasis were kind of has-beens but still managed to get number 1 albums and singles and fill stadiums (even in the US), which not every band/artist can say after the golden days are gone. It also includes quotes from the BigUn, aka the guy who tried to sue Oasis because he introduced Liam to Bonehead, and I think it's sad to see him get the attention he does not deserve (still remember when he came here and insulted people). You can also find a laughable quote by Mary McGuigan saying that Oasis could have made it without Noel thanks to Liam and Bonehead. I mean, Liam is a fantastic singer and Bonehe ad is a good musican (but not great) but that would have been pointless without the songs. Have to agree with you on that Bigun guy some of the stuff he says in the book it sounds like he’s just making it up off the top of his head. He didn’t really give any insight it was basically nonsense
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Post by oasispodcast on Jul 31, 2020 3:29:57 GMT -5
So I just read the book and I have to say that I am disappointed. It doesn't go that much in depth and the last part is very rushed, as if the 2000s didn't deserve that much attention. Of course, they weren't at their prime anymore but I still think it would have been interesting to analyze that period (espicially considering the documentary didn't do it), see how Oasis were kind of has-beens but still managed to get number 1 albums and singles and fill stadiums around the world, which not every band/artist can say after the golden days are gone. It also includes quotes from the BigUn, aka the guy who tried to sue Oasis because he introduced Liam to Bonehead, and I think it's sad to see him get the attention he does not deserve (still remember when he came here and insulted people). You can also find a laughable quote by Mary McGuigan saying that Oasis could have made it without Noel thanks to Liam and Bonehead. I mean, Liam is a fantastic singer and Bonehead is a good musican (but not great) but that would have been pointless without the songs. Thanks for the feedback. The thing to remember with this book is it is an independent production Richard wrote off spec based off the interviews I’ve done for the podcast. It’s not like an officially sanctioned book where we were given a big advance and access to people... so if there’s not much in the 2000s that’s my fault as most of the interviews I’ve done are with people from the early days who are happy to speak. I have tried to get interviews with the likes of Spike Stent, Dave Sardy, Jay Darlington, Zak, Gem, Andy etc but haven’t been able to. When you try to interview these people there is a real reluctance to talk about Oasis... it was a fractious time and I think they are wary taking about it. Plus with the likes of Sardy and Stent these are big producers who only had a brief time with Oasis... it’s not like they need the publicity and their time with Oasis didn’t define them.. There’s a few I’ve done more recently that would make the book and bolster the later years chapters, like Simon Halfon and Tjinder from Cornershop, plus I live in hope we will get some of the other guys mentioned. That said re the 2000s I don’t know if there’s much else to say? In those years it was just record, tour, break with the occasional guest appearance and awards ceremony ... then stuff in their personal lives. I think Richard hits upon every major event so not sure what else there is to say about it? I agree if someone did a full “Tune In” style book about Oasis, trying to really dig into speaking to everyone involved then that would be great - problem remains though not many people will speak to you... I suppose if it was an officially sanctioned book then they might but you have a similar problem. Re Bigun .... with the podcast I don’t have an agenda and I am happy to talk to anyone. Yes he’s a divisive character and you can’t necessarily take everything he says at face value but he you can’t deny he was there and he is a hilarious interview! I think his comments add a lot of colour to that period, you just need to take it with a pinch of salt And re Mary’s point... it’s called Some Might Say... it is all about opinions. If you don’t agree with one quote taken from one person that seems a strange thing to criticise in a book? If Richard has done a whole chapter “why they would’ve made it without Noel” then I’d get it but seems a bit weird to pick on one quote But anyway thanks for the feedback and if Ignition want to give us £100,000 and access to everyone then I think that 1,000 page book with everyone involved is out there!
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Post by marla on Jul 31, 2020 10:59:16 GMT -5
So I just read the book and I have to say that I am disappointed. It doesn't go that much in depth and the last part is very rushed, as if the 2000s didn't deserve that much attention. Of course, they weren't at their prime anymore but I still think it would have been interesting to analyze that period (espicially considering the documentary didn't do it), see how Oasis were kind of has-beens but still managed to get number 1 albums and singles and fill stadiums around the world, which not every band/artist can say after the golden days are gone. It also includes quotes from the BigUn, aka the guy who tried to sue Oasis because he introduced Liam to Bonehead, and I think it's sad to see him get the attention he does not deserve (still remember when he came here and insulted people). You can also find a laughable quote by Mary McGuigan saying that Oasis could have made it without Noel thanks to Liam and Bonehead. I mean, Liam is a fantastic singer and Bonehead is a good musican (but not great) but that would have been pointless without the songs. Thanks for the feedback. The thing to remember with this book is it is an independent production Richard wrote off spec based off the interviews I’ve done for the podcast. It’s not like an officially sanctioned book where we were given a big advance and access to people... so if there’s not much in the 2000s that’s my fault as most of the interviews I’ve done are with people from the early days who are happy to speak. I have tried to get interviews with the likes of Spike Stent, Dave Sardy, Jay Darlington, Zak, Gem, Andy etc but haven’t been able to. When you try to interview these people there is a real reluctance to talk about Oasis... it was a fractious time and I think they are wary taking about it. Plus with the likes of Sardy and Stent these are big producers who only had a brief time with Oasis... it’s not like they need the publicity and their time with Oasis didn’t define them.. There’s a few I’ve done more recently that would make the book and bolster the later years chapters, like Simon Halfon and Tjinder from Cornershop, plus I live in hope we will get some of the other guys mentioned. That said re the 2000s I don’t know if there’s much else to say? In those years it was just record, tour, break with the occasional guest appearance and awards ceremony ... then stuff in their personal lives. I think Richard hits upon every major event so not sure what else there is to say about it? I agree if someone did a full “Tune In” style book about Oasis, trying to really dig into speaking to everyone involved then that would be great - problem remains though not many people will speak to you... I suppose if it was an officially sanctioned book then they might but you have a similar problem. Re Bigun .... with the podcast I don’t have an agenda and I am happy to talk to anyone. Yes he’s a divisive character and you can’t necessarily take everything he says at face value but he you can’t deny he was there and he is a hilarious interview! I think his comments add a lot of colour to that period, you just need to take it with a pinch of salt And re Mary’s point... it’s called Some Might Say... it is all about opinions. If you don’t agree with one quote taken from one person that seems a strange thing to criticise in a book? If Richard has done a whole chapter “why they would’ve made it without Noel” then I’d get it but seems a bit weird to pick on one quote But anyway thanks for the feedback and if Ignition want to give us £100,000 and access to everyone then I think that 1,000 page book with everyone involved is out there! Hello, first I'd like to say that I really enjoy your podcast. I personally think there is a lot to say about the 2000s period, espicially their resurgence around 2005 with DBTT and Stop the clocks. I didn't know the book was based on opinion, so my bad. I stand by my point regarding Bigun, it's not like he has given us an interesting insight on the dynamic of the band, unlike Tony, and even Liam said that we should ignore him and that he's crazy
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