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Post by Zingbot on Jan 18, 2020 8:03:29 GMT -5
DOYS was a return to success in the US of many sorts. It was their first top 5 album since be here now, the shock of the lightning was a giant alternative hit and was their first song since DLBIA to crack the hot 100, and Falling Down was a top 5 dance song and peaked at number 6 on the hot singles sales(making it the sixth most purchased physical single in the US at the time). How big would Oasis have gotten if they hadn't broken up when they did?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2020 11:04:04 GMT -5
DOYS was a return to success in the US of many sorts. It was their first top 5 album since be here now, the shock of the lightning was a giant alternative hit and was their first song since DLBIA to crack the hot 100, and Falling Down was a top 5 dance song and peaked at number 6 on the hot singles sales(making it the sixth most purchased physical single in the US at the time). How big would Oasis have gotten if they hadn't broken up when they did? Oasis was dead and buried in 2008 America. They had their moment in 1996. That was it. America moved on. It’s all about context in the numbers you just gave. Sure it went #5 but it was the lowest amount of albums sold by Oasis in an opening week yet. It had the fortune of hitting in a slow week. It actually sold less than DBTT first week. Sure TSOTL made the top 100 but barely. I would t call it a giant alternative hit. Still plenty of other tunes were getting heavy rotation on American airwaves. It was just nice to hear them in general. Falling Down a top 5 dance song? I didn’t even know such charts existed and certainly weren’t spoken about in 2008 at large. Oasis has always been able to move physical products. They have an older fan base that was born and raised on that stuff. 2008 was the beginning of massive decline in that stuff as the world turned to digital downloads and streaming. I certainly didn’t see the Falling Down single at any of my records shops in NYC at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 12:06:26 GMT -5
2008 USA opinion about Oasis is similar to 2020 live4ever opinion about zingbot: We sigh and move on with our lives.
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Post by matt on Jan 19, 2020 6:42:18 GMT -5
They were as close to a resurgence in popularity as Bill Cosby is now.
Misleading album chart stats in the US aside as Lennon says, Oasis were dying in the UK too. Lowest album sale with Dig Out Your Soul, first album since Definitely Maybe to not score a number one hit.
It was waning popularity even in its native country by 2008, all sadly self inflicted of course with a lazy, unambitious mediocre album and increasingly mediocre gigs. It's not their worst album, but of all the albums Oasis released, Dig Out Your Soul is by far the most forgettable one in the sense it made no wider impact (barely a ripple) outside of the dedicated fanbase who bought it (as bad as Heathen Chemistry is, Stop Crying Your Heart Out had its moment in summer 2002 and is a popular streaming presence in the modern day).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 7:03:19 GMT -5
They were as close to a resurgence in popularity as Bill Cosby is now. Misleading album chart stats in the US aside as Lennon says, Oasis were dying in the UK too. Lowest album sale with Dig Out Your Soul, first album since Definitely Maybe to not score a number one hit. It was waning popularity even in its native country by 2008, all sadly self inflicted of course with a lazy, unambitious mediocre album and increasingly mediocre gigs. It's not their worst album, but of all the albums Oasis released, Dig Out Your Soul is by far the most forgettable one in the sense it made no wider impact (barely a ripple) outside of the dedicated fanbase who bought it (as bad as Heathen Chemistry is, Stop Crying Your Heart Out had its moment in summer 2002 and is a popular streaming presence in the modern day). I agree, DOYS didn't have any hits, like DBTT had "The Importance of Being Idle" and "Lyla". However, I think the fact it sold less DBTT in UK has more to do with the fact there was a boom for indie-rock in British music around 2005 (that plus catchier singles than DOYS). In the rest of Europe, DOYS sold around the same amount of copies as DBTT (apparently, DOYS even sold more than DBTT in France). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 7:41:19 GMT -5
What kind of crowd were Oasis getting in New York and LA by the end? I know they were playing bigger venues than they used to, so were they getting the whole new generation Liam ended up with in the UK or just more people on 90s nostalgia trips?
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Post by thomuk2006 on Jan 19, 2020 8:55:15 GMT -5
What kind of crowd were Oasis getting in New York and LA by the end? I know they were playing bigger venues than they used to, so were they getting the whole new generation Liam ended up with in the UK or just more people on 90s nostalgia trips? Not sure but would guess 50% were British expats or British people on holiday??? also probs som latino fans too... they are huge in South America. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 9:47:06 GMT -5
They were selling 200 000 copies by the end in America. Good number for indie bands (I think it's pretty much the amount of copies Belle and Sebastian sold in the States for "If You're Feeling Sinister") but not enough to fill 15 000 capacity venues like Oasis was in the States in 2008. So it's most likely a lot of 90's nostalgics and the popularity of Wonderwall / Don't Look Back In Anger / Champagne Supernova in the US that made them fill all those arenas (and they would fill them even nowadays if they reunite).
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 19, 2020 10:23:00 GMT -5
I think, to begin with, DOYS just did not have that popular appeal both DBTT and HC had, it does not have the hits like Lyla, TIOBI or SCYHO to carry the album on the charts, also they went with another sound, it's a strange album, not your usual britpop sound, it sounds more groovy blues based hard hitting sound with dry guitar riffs, their first album where they truly tried to escape the britpop sound.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 19, 2020 10:31:35 GMT -5
What kind of crowd were Oasis getting in New York and LA by the end? I know they were playing bigger venues than they used to, so were they getting the whole new generation Liam ended up with in the UK or just more people on 90s nostalgia trips? Their crowning USA achievement hit in the summer of 2005. A sold out MSG date which was loads of fun for anyone that was there. It was like a celebration of the previous 11 years of the band. Overall that summer USA and fall tour played mixed venues. An arena, some amphitheater, festival grounds, minor league baseball stadium, etc. In 2008 they attempted an arena style tour starting in LA and working their way East. I believe most of the arenas were 50-70% full. They did sell out MSG again in December 2008. I prefer the setlist from the 2008 show but the vibe of 2005 was much much better. I use to be impressed by sold out MSG gigs but over the last decade I’ve seen way too many mid level bands sell that place out. |
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