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Liam Gallagher doesn't think Oasis were that great Jan 4, 2020 11:08:07 GMT -5 Longtime Servant of the Gun and Zingbot like this

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I maintain that there was enough material knocking around for each album to make them better and improve their legacy. Noel's track choices was always a bit suspect but for the first two albums he had such a deep pool of material to choose from that it didnt matter. Later on there was less room for error. Oasis needed someone from out the band e.g. me to sort out their tracklisting for them. I'd have done for a mere hundred grand per record.

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Liam Gallagher doesn't think Oasis were that great Jan 4, 2020 12:09:36 GMT -5 via mobile The Crimson Rambler, Longtime Servant of the Gun, and 1 more like this

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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 4, 2020 12:09:36 GMT -5

Jan 3, 2020 18:23:13 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

None of us know what the band (AKA Noel) was truly thinking but there did seem to be a "That'll Do" attitude to many Oasis albums. I think Noel didn't really have the ambition after reaching the height the band did after Morning Glory and it shows, particularly post SOTSOG.

I always find Noel's take on the post MG albums interesting as they don't always seem to line up with what is commonly thought on here. It'd be nice to read more quotes on them (the Be Here Now stuff is the only stuff that is really sticking with me right now) but as I remember he sums them up something like this (feel free to correct me or add to it):

Be Here Now: A real missed opportunity. He didn't feel like he understood that he was following up a classic 1-2 and the expectations that came with it. A fair chunk of the material ('Don't Go Away', 'Stand By Me', 'All Around The World'...) was outtakes from the last two records that at the time he believed to be better than the stuff he was throwing away as b-sides, something he now regrets. Some of the other material was recycled old stuff knocked into shape and simply isn't very good. 'D'You Know What I Mean?' is the stand out good track. The mix on the album is shocking. Some of the decisions he made (track lengths, overdubs, ect.) were really poor.

Standing On The Shoulder of Giants: The best sounding record with the worst selection of tracks. He was trying to give the band a new sound but struggled with the songwriting process. Hates 'Sunday Morning Call' and thinks 'Let's All Make Believe' is underrated.

Heathen Chemistry: The band hitting the reset button. Contains some really great songs like 'Little By Little' and 'Stop Crying Your Heart Out'. Thinks 'She Is Love' and 'Idler's Dream' are underrated.

Don't Believe The Truth: Contains some more great songs like 'The Importance of Being Idle' and 'Lyla' with the former being one of his best. Thinks 'Part of the Queue' is underrated.

Dig Out Your Soul: A return to the bands bigger sound. He strongly rates 'Falling Down' as the bands final single. Admits that the album would have been better with 'Come On Outside' and 'Record Machine' but solely blames Liam for them not getting finished.

Noel is the ONLY person to blame for DOYS not turning out how it was intended by Noel. I get that Liam running off from LA sessions to go get married randomly was not ideal but that happened late February or early March 2008. The album didn’t come out until first week of October. That is almost 7 months prior to the album coming out. You mean to tell me you couldn’t find time for Liam to do vocals on two tracks? That is some real spiteful bullshit.

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Liam Gallagher doesn't think Oasis were that great Jan 4, 2020 14:57:31 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by Longtime Servant of the Gun on Jan 4, 2020 14:57:31 GMT -5

Oasis are the biggest and best thing to have happened to British music since the Beatles... They had more of an effect on peoples lives than Queen, Pink Floyd, The Smith's etc etc

That said they never achieved legendary status.

But they COULD have.

None of their albums were perfect.

In my opinion DM should have had Headshrinker, Fade Away and Listen Up on it.

Not having any tracks from the Whatever single on MG was a big fucking error. It never seems to get mentioned on here because every release around that time was gold dust but come on...

Acquiesce should have been on MG instead of Roll with it. And I think there is a place for it's good to be free and half the world away on there as well.

Hello
Acquiesce
Wonderwall
Dont look back in anger
Whatever
It's good to be free
Some might say
Cast no shadow
Half the World Away
Morning Glory
Champagne Supernova

Yeah I know re organising is MG is heresy but what are you all gonna do? I'm 6'2 I'll break your back.

BHN... I dont care what anyone says the songs were still there.

MG was preceded by two singles. Which meant Noel still had The Masterplan, and Underneath the sky in his arsenal after MG was released.

The fact that Noel was too arrogant to save these for BHN is not an excuse the record label should have stepped in. Cowardice in my opinion.

Stick Masterplan, Underneath the sky and Stay young on there and then have their record label to have the balls to say... Someone else is mixing and editing this album and youd have a winner.

Something like this...

Dykwim
My Big Mouth
Stay Young
Stand by me
Underneath the Sky
The Masterplan
Fade InOut
Dont go Away
All Around the World (6 minutes max)
Its gettin better man
Reprise

If this was all done right... and Liam hadn't sacked off America then they would have been legends.

Tour BHN, Then call it a day and hang up their boots as legends of the 90s

Peace is declared

& The planets align

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Liam Gallagher doesn't think Oasis were that great Jan 4, 2020 15:40:18 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by Longtime Servant of the Gun on Jan 4, 2020 15:40:18 GMT -5

And While I'm ranting

High Horse Lady
To be where theres life
Ain't Got Nothin
The Nature of Reality
Soldier On

All got to go on DOYS

When these were already written

Come on it's alright
God Help us All
Freaky Teeth
Stranded on the Wrong Beach
The Good Rebel
Record Machine
Boy with the Blues
I believe in All
Evil Eye
The Roller
Ballroom Figured (Demo)
Mindfeel Feeling
The Beat goes On
Millionaire
Stop the clocks

Makes me fucking Sick

oasisserbia Oasis Manager ✌️🧡 Posts: 5,701	Liam Gallagher doesn't think Oasis were that great Jan 4, 2020 20:55:31 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by oasisserbia on Jan 4, 2020 20:55:31 GMT -5 Ofc they were not that great, compare 7 Oasis albums to 7 Harry Potter books and you'll see what does it mean to be really great!
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The Thieving Magpie Oasis Manager Posts: 1,802	Liam Gallagher doesn't think Oasis were that great Feb 5, 2020 14:09:29 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by The Thieving Magpie on Feb 5, 2020 14:09:29 GMT -5 Yeah they're not great, So they have to reunion and make great album to gain fame.
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