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Post by Jack on Nov 21, 2019 4:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by thomuk2006 on Nov 21, 2019 7:09:55 GMT -5
Flares at indoor gigs!!! WTF! Should not be allowed and punished if idiots do it!
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Post by NYR on Nov 21, 2019 14:21:56 GMT -5
What the hell is wrong with some people?
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 21, 2019 14:42:28 GMT -5
People are such morons some times. Supposedly they don't know who did it, that coward should admit to it.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 21, 2019 15:39:52 GMT -5
Shouldn't have let the situation get so heated.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 21, 2019 17:58:44 GMT -5
No need for flares at gigs. Incredibly dangerous (especially so when you've got a drunken moron in charge of it) and anybody that makes light of it needs to experience being burnt by one and then see if they think it was worth it.
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Post by Mario on Nov 21, 2019 20:07:34 GMT -5
Flares are a stupid, selfish idea.... shame on those who partake & allow......shame on LG for being wishy washy about them. Sad it took this incident to bring this to attention.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Nov 22, 2019 8:42:55 GMT -5
I was in seating when I saw someone lob a flare. Although it wasn’t burning strong it was still burning. I thought at the time what a vagina, hope it hasn’t hit anyone. Sadly it looked like it did hit someone and was probably the girl in this article. vaginas.
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Post by globe on Nov 22, 2019 14:28:58 GMT -5
This has been on the rise at big indoor gigs for the last few years - flares and smoke bombs. Stupid fuckers taking these in man.
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Post by Marissa on Nov 22, 2019 17:22:51 GMT -5
literally who does this? who thinks this is a valid idea?
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Post by Didi on Nov 24, 2019 14:54:32 GMT -5
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Post by stillilllife on Nov 25, 2019 12:42:08 GMT -5
Fucking idiot.
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Post by markgreeny19939 on Nov 25, 2019 20:01:06 GMT -5
It might be an unpopular opinion this, but I believe security should assess these situations before taking action.
What I mean is, if somebody lights up a flare, leave them to it. Chances are the person who has lit the flare probably has little intention to throw it, unless they see security and need to get rid of it as quickly as possible. They probably wont think about the possible consequences while drunk.
When arctic monkeys were playing a few years ago, I witnessed a kid light a flare whilst on somebody’s shoulder at the beginning of the gig. Within 5-10 seconds, 3 security guards jumped over the barriers, one punched him, they dragged him down and dragged him through the crowd by the neck. The flare went flying into the crowd. It was absolutely disgusting - he didn’t deserve that treatment and the security caused far more danger to the people they are meant to be keeping safe.
I understand that’s an extreme reaction, but I do think security personnel need to assess danger of reacting to the situation. Is it not safer to just leave the drunk man dancing around with his flare than to engage and possibly cause danger to others?
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 26, 2019 19:52:32 GMT -5
So, it was you? :-)
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 26, 2019 20:01:50 GMT -5
It might be an unpopular opinion this, but I believe security should assess these situations before taking action. What I mean is, if somebody lights up a flare, leave them to it. Chances are the person who has lit the flare probably has little intention to throw it, unless they see security and need to get rid of it as quickly as possible. They probably wont think about the possible consequences while drunk. When arctic monkeys were playing a few years ago, I witnessed a kid light a flare whilst on somebody’s shoulder at the beginning of the gig. Within 5-10 seconds, 3 security guards jumped over the barriers, one punched him, they dragged him down and dragged him through the crowd by the neck. The flare went flying into the crowd. It was absolutely disgusting - he didn’t deserve that treatment and the security caused far more danger to the people they are meant to be keeping safe. I understand that’s an extreme reaction, but I do think security personnel need to assess danger of reacting to the situation. Is it not safer to just leave the drunk man dancing around with his flare than to engage and possibly cause danger to others? Security can be heavy handed at gigs I totally agree with that but I’ve been to most gigs with no flares and it doesn’t bother me. There’s no need for them and suggesting leaving security to assess the situation from distance is madness.
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Post by Jack on Nov 27, 2019 5:30:45 GMT -5
It might be an unpopular opinion this, but I believe security should assess these situations before taking action. What I mean is, if somebody lights up a flare, leave them to it. Chances are the person who has lit the flare probably has little intention to throw it, unless they see security and need to get rid of it as quickly as possible. They probably wont think about the possible consequences while drunk. When arctic monkeys were playing a few years ago, I witnessed a kid light a flare whilst on somebody’s shoulder at the beginning of the gig. Within 5-10 seconds, 3 security guards jumped over the barriers, one punched him, they dragged him down and dragged him through the crowd by the neck. The flare went flying into the crowd. It was absolutely disgusting - he didn’t deserve that treatment and the security caused far more danger to the people they are meant to be keeping safe. I understand that’s an extreme reaction, but I do think security personnel need to assess danger of reacting to the situation. Is it not safer to just leave the drunk man dancing around with his flare than to engage and possibly cause danger to others? What is the point of lighting a flare at a music gig? Especially an indoor one. I mean, what is the purpose of them? You're at a gig watching a performance, you're not stranded at sea. Surely its better to just ban them outright to prevent possible injuries. And if other people see what happens when you light a flare (shit kicked out of you by security), surely this is a good thing as it will make others think twice about doing it themselves.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 27, 2019 11:37:11 GMT -5
why would you do that at an indoor gig? its just so stupid and dangerous
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Dec 2, 2019 5:11:09 GMT -5
Instagram makes people are going mad.
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Post by markgreeny19939 on Feb 10, 2020 18:00:18 GMT -5
No I do understand what you’re all saying - a flare is pretty irresponsible.
But it happens at gigs, a lot. People sneak them in. But the point I’m making is, they’ve not brought it in to burn people. After their five minutes holding a flare on somebody’s shoulder during their favourite song, it will go out and it will all be over. What’s the point of reacting during that time? It can cause chaos.
It also makes very little difference whether indoor or outdoor. You’re still lighting it up in a packed and condensed crowd, and it’s very unlikely to cause a fire in an indoor circumstance.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 11, 2020 5:46:33 GMT -5
No I do understand what you’re all saying - a flare is pretty irresponsible. But it happens at gigs, a lot. People sneak them in. But the point I’m making is, they’ve not brought it in to burn people. After their five minutes holding a flare on somebody’s shoulder during their favourite song, it will go out and it will all be over. What’s the point of reacting during that time? It can cause chaos. It also makes very little difference whether indoor or outdoor. You’re still lighting it up in a packed and condensed crowd, and it’s very unlikely to cause a fire in an indoor circumstance. They're stupid. The staple of Liverpool (best fans in der werld lad) supporters at Champions League matches and then the Courteeners/Dark Fruits massive. Outdoors - okay, fair enough, it's still stupid but not as dangerous. Inside – reckless. Of course nobody went out to hurt anyone and obviously the security will need to be a lot tighter, especially given what happened a few years ago. But it's just really thick.
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