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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Nov 13, 2019 19:07:08 GMT -5
Makes me blood fookin' boil.
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Post by simmo on Nov 14, 2019 4:31:52 GMT -5
You would be amazed how little musicians from massive bands make.
I've 2 seperate mates each in Glastonbury Pyramid level headlining bands whose albums go Number 1 in UK and US every time and I reckon 70% of people on this forum earn more than them a year.
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Post by simmo on Nov 14, 2019 4:32:55 GMT -5
Therefore, selling out etc is a thing of the past. Putting music to ads is now one of the only ways to make a lump to pay for RAK or Abbey Road sessions etc.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Nov 14, 2019 6:25:11 GMT -5
"Are you my mummy?"  that episode absolutely terrified 5 year old me 😂 It was pretty amazing. On the DVD you can hear the skull bones cracking as they transform but they weren't allowed to air that particular sound effect on the TV broadcast. |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Nov 14, 2019 6:28:56 GMT -5
It’s always a bit shite when I hear a song I like played in an advert but Im also pretty sure it’s the publisher that does it not the songwriter. The songwriter gets the biggest share of any income for the songs but isn’t the one that does the deal with the Shitehawks. Noel still owns the copyright to the song - he could block his songs being used in a commercial if he wished. I think it cheapens songs when they're used like this but it's his song - if he's happy to have it used in a commercial that's his business. Anyway for all we know he's donating the proceeds to charity (like DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER) so we shouldn't be too quick to judge. Yes I know the Beatles didn't like their songs being used in commercials (and that didn't happen until that scumbag Michael Jackson got control of their songs) but they're really an exception. Even Dylan has allowed a few of his songs on commercials. |
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Nov 14, 2019 8:10:33 GMT -5
It’s always a bit shite when I hear a song I like played in an advert but Im also pretty sure it’s the publisher that does it not the songwriter. The songwriter gets the biggest share of any income for the songs but isn’t the one that does the deal with the Shitehawks. Noel still owns the copyright to the song - he could block his songs being used in a commercial if he wished. I think it cheapens songs when they're used like this but it's his song - if he's happy to have it used in a commercial that's his business. Anyway for all we know he's donating the proceeds to charity (like DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER) so we shouldn't be too quick to judge. Yes I know the Beatles didn't like their songs being used in commercials (and that didn't happen until that scumbag Michael Jackson got control of their songs) but they're really an exception. Even Dylan has allowed a few of his songs on commercials. I know he owns the copyright but I bet the small print in his publishing contract says something like 'we can use the songs wherever the fuck we want'. |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Nov 14, 2019 8:43:47 GMT -5
Yeah what a sick bastard how does he sleep at night? |
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Post by darmin on Nov 14, 2019 10:28:37 GMT -5
It's the second best way to ruin a song, so not a cool move. Oh well, it's a good thing that I don't watch french tv
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Post by mossy on Nov 14, 2019 12:33:13 GMT -5
It’s always a bit shite when I hear a song I like played in an advert but Im also pretty sure it’s the publisher that does it not the songwriter. The songwriter gets the biggest share of any income for the songs but isn’t the one that does the deal with the Shitehawks. Noel still owns the copyright to the song - he could block his songs being used in a commercial if he wished. I think it cheapens songs when they're used like this but it's his song - if he's happy to have it used in a commercial that's his business. Anyway for all we know he's donating the proceeds to charity (like DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER) so we shouldn't be too quick to judge. Yes I know the Beatles didn't like their songs being used in commercials (and that didn't happen until that scumbag Michael Jackson got control of their songs) but they're really an exception. Even Dylan has allowed a few of his songs on commercials. At least Noel hasn’t started selling knickers yet... X |
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Post by shannee on Nov 14, 2019 17:30:46 GMT -5
Noel definitely owns his own publishing rights. A lot of artists do adverts and various licensing in foreign countries. Why not get paid vs some ad co changing just enough notes to rip you off.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Nov 15, 2019 11:38:29 GMT -5
At least Noel hasn’t started selling knickers yet... X Hey if it's good enough for Dylan, it's good enough for Gem, here's another ad for ladies sexy underwear set to the sensual sounds of Gem's Stooges inspired "Hung" In a Bad Place. While googling for the clip I found a previous forum thread from the best part of a decade ago about Noelly songs in adverts so you know, trigger warning people... time certainly flies. live4ever.proboards.com/thread/64322 |
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Post by crisppacket on Feb 23, 2021 16:25:30 GMT -5
Back at it again isn’t he... I’m minding my own business trying to survive in a corona filled universe...then BAM STAND.BY.ME comes on the T.V. The soundtrack to the new HALIFAX advert A banking advert Noelle?  Promoting capitalism? Stand by me eh? More like stand by the bankers you massive Tory |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 16:42:53 GMT -5
Back at it again isn’t he... I’m minding my own business trying to survive in a corona filled universe...then BAM STAND.BY.ME comes on the T.V. The soundtrack to the new HALIFAX advert A banking advert Noelle? Promoting capitalism? Stand by me eh? More like stand by the bankers you massive Tory Oh ahah didn't see this post (I posted about it on another thread). So another banking advert after "Whatever" in France. No, no, Noel...  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 23, 2021 16:56:38 GMT -5
Good for him, wish I had something to sell too
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Post by darmin on Feb 24, 2021 1:51:35 GMT -5
Good for him, wish I had something to sell too But bad for the songs. Nothing is worse for a great song than to be associated with some lame ad. It ruined few songs for me |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 24, 2021 3:02:04 GMT -5
Good for him, wish I had something to sell too But bad for the songs. Nothing is worse for a great song than to be associated with some lame ad. It ruined few songs for me I've never been that concerned tbh, as I said in another thread I actually discovered some cool shit through ads I guess there are people out there for whom that cool shit is gonna be Stand By Me |
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Post by morning_rain on Feb 24, 2021 4:15:52 GMT -5
I get why people are upset about this, but right now there are lots of teenagers who will be exposed to Stand By Me for the first time and who are about to discover Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 4:16:53 GMT -5
The name of this thread is quite dramatic  I remember Noel saying in an old interview something like he understands that Gem sold Hung In A Bad Place for Victoria’s Secret because Gem needed the money, but he doesn't have to sell his songs for commercials. Is Noel having money problems now? surely not... |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 24, 2021 5:25:34 GMT -5
The name of this thread is quite dramatic I remember Noel saying in an old interview something like he understands that Gem sold Hung In A Bad Place for Victoria’s Secret because Gem needed the money, but he doesn't have to sell his songs for commercials. Is Noel having money problems now? surely not... There are money problems and then there is the problem of maintaining your lavish wealth in the middle of a pandemic and as you perhaps plan to start touring less as you grow older ... |
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Post by 2nz on Feb 24, 2021 5:30:58 GMT -5
And everything has a price.
Holding out so long means beacoup dinero.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 24, 2021 5:42:24 GMT -5
The name of this thread is quite dramatic I remember Noel saying in an old interview something like he understands that Gem sold Hung In A Bad Place for Victoria’s Secret because Gem needed the money, but he doesn't have to sell his songs for commercials. Is Noel having money problems now? surely not... There are money problems and then there is the problem of maintaining your lavish wealth in the middle of a pandemic and as you perhaps plan to start touring less as you grow older ... He reportedly has a networth of 70 million dollars. I think he's okay. |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 24, 2021 6:33:36 GMT -5
that episode absolutely terrified 5 year old me 😂 It was pretty amazing. On the DVD you can hear the skull bones cracking as they transform but they weren't allowed to air that particular sound effect on the TV broadcast. Fun fact: Moffat called the spaceship in that episode a "Chula Warship" because the restaurant the writers met up in to discuss Series One was an Indian's called Chula's. Another one of those, same time tomorrow... |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 24, 2021 6:55:44 GMT -5
There are money problems and then there is the problem of maintaining your lavish wealth in the middle of a pandemic and as you perhaps plan to start touring less as you grow older ... He reportedly has a networth of 70 million dollars. I think he's okay. Of course, but okay was never enough and I'm sure that hasn't changed. His net worth isn't static and I'm sure he'd rather maintain it than watch it go down to 65 million or god forbid 60 million (or whatever ... internet net worth estimates are usually pure speculation and way off in one direction or the other). Most songwriters/touring acts are currently losing money. Noel had talked about taking a break anyway but breaks do lower your income. Selling your songs is a hedge. (Hence why you see so many older songwriters suddenly selling off their lucrative catalogs.) Not a fan myself. In fact, it has a whiff of blasphemy to me to have early Oasis become just a pleasant bank jingle (but they're his songs to do with as he pleases and he never minded blasphemy.) Just noting he doesn't need to be having what most of us would consider "money problems" to be seeing a money solution ... |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 24, 2021 7:19:00 GMT -5
Tbh, I don't think it's that deep He owns the publishing but they probably still have to go through someone else first, he got told "they're using this for an ad are you okay with it?" and he'd have gone something like "oh yeah alright" thinking of all that money coming in without doing anything And he hates the song anyway  |
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Post by mossy on Feb 24, 2021 7:33:01 GMT -5
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Promoting capitalism?
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5