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Post by bigmouth22 on Aug 28, 2022 8:49:03 GMT -5
Yea you did misconstrue.The Rutles song was suggesting that maybe cash was equally as important to the band than love.My comment was that this comercialisation of The Beatles is almost beyond parody with how many marketing campaigns that-if you were being cynical-you might regard as cash ins.Things like getting George Martins son to remix things etc.Im aware that Noel shamelesly lifted from a Rutles song for 'Whatever'.Frankly what he did was out of order by not giving Neil Innes credit from the get go and he should be a bit ashamed of himself. I like The Beatles as much as the next person(ok maybe not quite)-but they're not a sacred cow.Not everything they did was great-and they stole ideas too(or we're influenced by others).For example most belive they were pioneers of electronic music with Tommorow Never Knows and Revoloution Number Nine-but they themselves got this from avant garde German composers who had been pioneering this kinda music since the 1950's.They simply made it more commercial and brought it to the masses.And made something great in the case of TNK. But yea I think theyr flogging a dead horse remixing all these albums and songs.Kinda taking advantage of the enormous goodwill and nostalgia people have for them. But it's just one person's opinion-and maybe not that popular one. fair enough!  Or something like that. Anyway I'm saving my money for the Stockhausen remix boxset. |
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 28, 2022 17:35:23 GMT -5
I love Paul McCartney.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 17:37:54 GMT -5
fair enough! Or something like that. Anyway I'm saving my money for the Stockhausen remix boxset. weirdly my favourite lennon remix is the nutopian national anthem from mind games |
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Post by bigmouth22 on Aug 29, 2022 12:38:14 GMT -5
Or something like that. Anyway I'm saving my money for the Stockhausen remix boxset. weirdly my favourite lennon remix is the nutopian national anthem from mind games Got a good working knowledge of The Beatles and Lennon-tho not quite enough to hang with the real obsessive geeks and nerds of the band.So admit had to google that. It's not bad-for a cover.But still prefer John Cale's original version. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 29, 2022 12:45:15 GMT -5
I don't like that song, only extented version.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 17:46:13 GMT -5
weirdly my favourite lennon remix is the nutopian national anthem from mind games Got a good working knowledge of The Beatles and Lennon-tho not quite enough to hang with the real obsessive geeks and nerds of the band.So admit had to google that. It's not bad-for a cover.But still prefer John Cale's original version. as a beatles obsessive nerd geek I'm giving you 'cale' as a typo when you obviously meant 'cage' because I'm sure a stockhausen fan would know  |
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Post by bigmouth22 on Aug 30, 2022 6:13:22 GMT -5
Yup-my bad!
Full disclosure-Im not that big a Stockhausen fan.German electronic music of the 1950's and 60's is an aquired taste.And I've yet to meet anyone who's aquired it.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 1, 2022 12:39:50 GMT -5
I've sometimes wondered whether Paul was being a bit naughty with that lyric in Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, "...takes it back to Molly waiting at the door, and as he gives it to her she begins to sing."
That would probably never have occured to me, had I not seen Young Frankenstein, with those scenes where Madeline Kahn sings operatically as a result of the Monster's enormous schwanzstucker. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 6, 2022 2:59:27 GMT -5
Revolver boxset will be announced soon. Can't wait!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 7, 2022 10:53:15 GMT -5
This Revolver reissue sounds/looks AWESOME.
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 8, 2022 2:01:19 GMT -5
Taxman (2022 mix)
Sounds great
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 8, 2022 5:10:26 GMT -5
Taxman (2022 mix) Sounds great Imagine this as new single of some new band. In 2022 it would still sound modern and I would become their biggest fan. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 8, 2022 13:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 8, 2022 14:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 15, 2022 6:12:59 GMT -5
I wonder if Paul had watched the 1944 David Lean film This Happy Breed by the time he came to write She’s Leaving Home?
I know the song was directly inspired by a contemporary news story, but I saw that film recently and was struck by the similarities between the way a young woman leaving her family home, leaving a note on the mantelpiece is depicted, and the way Paul sets the scene in his first verse.
Just wonder if he’d seen that, and it was lodged in his subconscious somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 8:34:56 GMT -5
Taxman (2022 mix) Sounds great Imagine this as new single of some new band. In 2022 it would still sound modern and I would become their biggest fan. isn't it weird that it's over 50 years old.
that would have been like listening to something from before WW1 when it came out. no comparison in any way whatsoever. but now those 50 years show no real change at all in so many (musical) ways. really, really strange.
then end of culture maybe? post modern becomes non modern?
anyway, beatles fans might dig this:
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Post by mkoasis on Sept 16, 2022 8:51:37 GMT -5
This Revolver reissue sounds/looks AWESOME. I need to look into these details ASAP. This is indeed exciting. |
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Post by matt on Sept 16, 2022 18:09:52 GMT -5
Here's a bit of insight into the remixing process behind the Revolver reissue, from Kenneth Womack no less, who wrote the brilliant book Solid State about the making of Abbey Road. www.salon.com/2022/09/15/remixed-revolver-to-reveal-new-layers-of-the-beatles-extraordinary-musical-powers/Discussing the technology from Peter Jackson, it's fascinating how new technology is able to identify and extrapolate separate sounds and instruments, providing the ability to enhance and remaster those parts. I've read previously that remixing the first Beatles records would be much more difficult due to the limited number of tracks they were using to record (was it two or four tracks for any audiophiles here?). With the abilities to separate all instruments, technology of which will only improve, surely it paves the way for all Beatles albums to be given the remix treatment they all badly need. The remixing of the entire back catalogue is something that desperately needs to happen. I can't listen to The Beatles out and about with the rotten stereo mixes and it's disjointed panning unless it's the mono mixes on my old iPod that were re-released in 2009 (that aren't even available separately or for streaming). It's fine on the stereo in your front room but that limits the time to listen to them. Again, a bizarre decision for the massively out of touch management to remaster these pointless mixes in 2009. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Sept 17, 2022 20:31:37 GMT -5
Here's a bit of insight into the remixing process behind the Revolver reissue, from Kenneth Womack no less, who wrote the brilliant book Solid State about the making of Abbey Road. www.salon.com/2022/09/15/remixed-revolver-to-reveal-new-layers-of-the-beatles-extraordinary-musical-powers/Discussing the technology from Peter Jackson, it's fascinating how new technology is able to identify and extrapolate separate sounds and instruments, providing the ability to enhance and remaster those parts. I've read previously that remixing the first Beatles records would be much more difficult due to the limited number of tracks they were using to record (was it two or four tracks for any audiophiles here?). With the abilities to separate all instruments, technology of which will only improve, surely it paves the way for all Beatles albums to be given the remix treatment they all badly need. The remixing of the entire back catalogue is something that desperately needs to happen. I can't listen to The Beatles out and about with the rotten stereo mixes and it's disjointed panning unless it's the mono mixes on my old iPod that were re-released in 2009 (that aren't even available separately or for streaming). It's fine on the stereo in your front room but that limits the time to listen to them. Again, a bizarre decision for the massively out of touch management to remaster these pointless mixes in 2009. That was a bit of a revelation for folks used to the US stereo versions. The only way I play the older ones is mono. Especially when I read, they weren't even there for the stereo mixes. 2009 was good for that. 2009 stereo did repeat the original sins. I do kind of like how every reissue, the bass seems to get a bit louder. Always thought it was too low. Paul the only one who shows, can ya nudge that a bit mate? Be interesting what they can with the new tech, going forward. |
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Post by matt on Sept 18, 2022 14:42:02 GMT -5
I wonder if Paul had watched the 1944 David Lean film This Happy Breed by the time he came to write She’s Leaving Home? I know the song was directly inspired by a contemporary news story, but I saw that film recently and was struck by the similarities between the way a young woman leaving her family home, leaving a note on the mantelpiece is depicted, and the way Paul sets the scene in his first verse. Just wonder if he’d seen that, and it was lodged in his subconscious somewhere. That's really interesting, I bet you're right. I can definitely see McCartney being inspired by films like that. Definitely up his street artistically. |
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Post by matt on Sept 18, 2022 14:43:23 GMT -5
Here's a bit of insight into the remixing process behind the Revolver reissue, from Kenneth Womack no less, who wrote the brilliant book Solid State about the making of Abbey Road. www.salon.com/2022/09/15/remixed-revolver-to-reveal-new-layers-of-the-beatles-extraordinary-musical-powers/Discussing the technology from Peter Jackson, it's fascinating how new technology is able to identify and extrapolate separate sounds and instruments, providing the ability to enhance and remaster those parts. I've read previously that remixing the first Beatles records would be much more difficult due to the limited number of tracks they were using to record (was it two or four tracks for any audiophiles here?). With the abilities to separate all instruments, technology of which will only improve, surely it paves the way for all Beatles albums to be given the remix treatment they all badly need. The remixing of the entire back catalogue is something that desperately needs to happen. I can't listen to The Beatles out and about with the rotten stereo mixes and it's disjointed panning unless it's the mono mixes on my old iPod that were re-released in 2009 (that aren't even available separately or for streaming). It's fine on the stereo in your front room but that limits the time to listen to them. Again, a bizarre decision for the massively out of touch management to remaster these pointless mixes in 2009. That was a bit of a revelation for folks used to the US stereo versions. The only way I play the older ones is mono. Especially when I read, they weren't even there for the stereo mixes. 2009 was good for that. 2009 stereo did repeat the original sins. I do kind of like how every reissue, the bass seems to get a bit louder. Always thought it was too low. Paul the only one who shows, can ya nudge that a bit mate? Be interesting what they can with the new tech, going forward. You can even notice it on this Taxman remix. The bass is so much meatier. That fuller sound is so satisfying to listen to. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 18, 2022 15:46:11 GMT -5
I wonder if Paul had watched the 1944 David Lean film This Happy Breed by the time he came to write She’s Leaving Home? I know the song was directly inspired by a contemporary news story, but I saw that film recently and was struck by the similarities between the way a young woman leaving her family home, leaving a note on the mantelpiece is depicted, and the way Paul sets the scene in his first verse. Just wonder if he’d seen that, and it was lodged in his subconscious somewhere. That's really interesting, I bet you're right. I can definitely see McCartney being inspired by films like that. Definitely up his street artistically. Here it is (starting at 1:05:38 if my link doesn't work correctly):
I definitely think it's a film Macca would get some enjoyment from. It seems like he was a fan of the British kitchen sink dramas of the 1950s and 60s, given that he chose to cover the title song of A Taste of Honey, and that he agreed to compose the score for The Family Way. This Happy Breed was kind of a precursor to all that.
The only question is whether he got a chance to see it then, in the days before home video. But I suppose, as Macca was reaching the age when he would be old enough to appreciate a movie like that, David Lean was reaching the height of his powers in the late 50s/early 60s. I can imagine that, with the success of Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia, prints of Lean's early movies came back into circulation, thus giving young Paul a fair chance of seeing it...
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 20, 2022 12:47:21 GMT -5
Tomorrow Never Knows is so fucking perfect.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 21, 2022 11:15:19 GMT -5
Well the new Revolver boxset leaked. Excellent work per usual. Didn’t think they could pull it off. Glad Peter Jackson’s audio technology allowed them to separate instruments off the 4 tracks.
Blows my mind the first few demos for Yellow Submarine. What a haunting sad song. Literally everything we ever heard of read said it was a Paul song designed for Ringo but it’s John at the root. Wild.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Oct 21, 2022 20:16:53 GMT -5
In the town where I was born, no one cared, no one cared. I agree. Interesting to hear the grim roots of this song. Ringo's voice on Yellow Submarine (take 4 before sound effects) Wow
Feeling pretty partial to Got To Get You Into My Life (second version / unnumbered mix)
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