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Post by popromancer on Oct 27, 2019 12:46:48 GMT -5
Hi all, just sharing some thoughts:
Although I understood noel's decision in 2001 to share songwriting (just like the beatles did more towards the end) unfortunately the results as hoped never came to full fruition. I was just thinking, what if noel didn't share and used full control in terms of songs himself, just like the 90s.
With some release delays, liam singing more songs, downsizing 4 releases to 3 and some little twists here and there, these could have been the results:
Standing on the shoulder of giants (2001)
1.Fuckin' in the bushes
2.Go let it out
3.Who feels love
4.Put yer money where your mouth is
5.Let's all make believe
6.Gas panic!
7.Where did it all go wrong?
8.Sunday morning call (liam)
9.Force of nature
10.Full on (liam)
11. Roll it over
Don't Believe The Truth (2005)
1.The hindu times
2.Little by little
3.Lyla
4.Stop crying your heart out
5.The importance of being idle
6.Lord don't slow me down (liam)
7.Lock all the doors
8.Part of the Queue
9.Who put the weight of the world.. (liam)
10.Stop the clocks (liam)
11.Let there be love
Dig out your soul (2009)
1.Bag it up
2.The turning
3.Waiting for the rapture
4.The shock of the lightning
5.If I had a gun (liam)
6.Get off your high horse lady
7.Falling down
8.Come on outside (liam)
9.Everybody's on the run (liam)
10.Record machine (liam)
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 27, 2019 13:05:53 GMT -5
It would make dbtt and doys better albums.
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Post by morning_rain on Oct 27, 2019 16:15:33 GMT -5
An alternate timeline where Heathen Chemistry doesn't exist sounds good to me.
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Oct 27, 2019 17:25:20 GMT -5
Hi all, just sharing some thoughts: Although I understood noel's decision in 2001 to share songwriting (just like the beatles did more towards the end) unfortunately the results as hoped never came to full fruition. I was just thinking, what if noel didn't share and used full control in terms of songs himself, just like the 90s. With some release delays, liam singing more songs, downsizing 4 releases to 3 and some little twists here and there, these could have been the results: Standing on the shoulder of giants (2001) 1.Fuckin' in the bushes 2.Go let it out 3.Who feels love 4.Put yer money where your mouth is 5.Let's all make believe 6.Gas panic! 7.Where did it all go wrong? 8.Sunday morning call (liam) 9.Force of nature 10.Full on (liam) 11. Roll it over Don't Believe The Truth (2005) 1.The hindu times 2.Little by little 3.Lyla 4.Stop crying your heart out 5.The importance of being idle 6.Lord don't slow me down (liam) 7.Lock all the doors 8.Part of the Queue 9.Who put the weight of the world.. (liam) 10.Stop the clocks (liam) 11.Let there be love Dig out your soul (2009) 1.Bag it up 2.The turning 3.Waiting for the rapture 4.The shock of the lightning 5.If I had a gun (liam) 6.Get off your high horse lady 7.Falling down 8.Come on outside (liam) 9.Everybody's on the run (liam) 10.Record machine (liam) My god that would have been amazing. Those track lists read like the stuff of dreams to me. |
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 27, 2019 17:33:58 GMT -5
Can anybody give a reason that they dislike Heathen Chemistry? Are you just saying it to be different? The songs are a good length, well written, the singles were hits, the performances were good, the tour went well, can somebody tell me why it gets so much shit?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 27, 2019 22:22:02 GMT -5
Can anybody give a reason that they dislike Heathen Chemistry? Are you just saying it to be different? The songs are a good length, well written, the singles were hits, the performances were good, the tour went well, can somebody tell me why it gets so much shit? The album isn’t recorded well. Especially coming off SOTSOG which sounds fantastic. The music overall sounds uninspired and lazy. Could have, should have been much much better. In 2002, Oasis desperately needed a producer and for them to listen to him. |
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 28, 2019 0:52:40 GMT -5
Can anybody give a reason that they dislike Heathen Chemistry? Are you just saying it to be different? The songs are a good length, well written, the singles were hits, the performances were good, the tour went well, can somebody tell me why it gets so much shit? The album isn’t recorded well. Especially coming off SOTSOG which sounds fantastic. The music overall sounds uninspired and lazy. Could have, should have been much much better. In 2002, Oasis desperately needed a producer and for them to listen to him. Well, I may disagree, but at least it's a reason. I think it sounds pretty good and the quality of the songs overshadow any production issues. Best Oasis album for me. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 28, 2019 1:18:37 GMT -5
The album isn’t recorded well. Especially coming off SOTSOG which sounds fantastic. The music overall sounds uninspired and lazy. Could have, should have been much much better. In 2002, Oasis desperately needed a producer and for them to listen to him. Well, I may disagree, but at least it's a reason. I think it sounds pretty good and the quality of the songs overshadow any production issues. Best Oasis album for me. The singles are good but it falls off fast after that. - A Quick Peep, Probably All In My Mind and Better Man are poor. Peep should have been 3-4 min instrumental. - BOADC is a terrible recording of a song that deserved a lush and rich execution. - I’d have preferred if Oasis could have finished off The Roller in place of Hung In A Bad Place. |
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 28, 2019 2:06:47 GMT -5
I think better man is awesome and I like paitm and aqp. I would've liked the album more with the roller.
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Post by Parka Flames on Oct 28, 2019 3:17:55 GMT -5
Can anybody give a reason that they dislike Heathen Chemistry? Are you just saying it to be different? The songs are a good length, well written, the singles were hits, the performances were good, the tour went well, can somebody tell me why it gets so much shit? Because it's shite. 3 decent singles and a so-so tour do not a good album make. |
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Post by igotflair on Oct 28, 2019 10:50:56 GMT -5
I know there is definitely a Liam vocal on If I Had A Gun out there somewhere, from what I know it’s from a soundcheck. I guess Noel is probably sitting on it.
I don’t think I could handle it if I heard it, serious wet pants situation!
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Post by yeayeayeah on Oct 29, 2019 0:02:32 GMT -5
Far better albums but I'd miss some of Liam's songs and Turn Up the Sun.
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Post by World71R on Oct 30, 2019 21:53:18 GMT -5
Far better albums but I'd miss some of Liam's songs and Turn Up the Sun. I'm with ya. Guess God Thinks I'm Abel, I'm Outta Time, and Born on a Different Cloud are very fine works by Liam that have a rightful place in the Oasis discography; Turn Up the Sun too. That's Andy's best contribution and a top 10 post-BHN song. I love everything that goes on in the intro and outro and how the middle part is just a full-on rocker. |
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Post by pliolite on Nov 1, 2019 18:57:50 GMT -5
But...but...what about Huuuuuuuunnnnnnng In a Bad Place?  ?  |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 1, 2019 19:32:59 GMT -5
No need to delete all of Liam's contributions, I don't think. Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud, I'm Outta Time, and The Boy With the Blues are all deserving of places on their respective albums. It's Andy and Gem who should never have been given songwriting duties.
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 1, 2019 19:48:50 GMT -5
No need to delete all of Liam's contributions, I don't think. Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud, I'm Outta Time, and The Boy With the Blues are all deserving of places on their respective albums. It's Andy and Gem who should never have been given songwriting duties. Hung in a bad place and turn up the sun are both pretty good. |
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Post by World71R on Nov 3, 2019 14:50:32 GMT -5
No need to delete all of Liam's contributions, I don't think. Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud, I'm Outta Time, and The Boy With the Blues are all deserving of places on their respective albums. It's Andy and Gem who should never have been given songwriting duties. Hung in a bad place and turn up the sun are both pretty good. This is where it's at. Hung in a Bad Place had its place on HC, more than Probably All in the Mind, a Noel song mind you, and was more indicative of where the band was at during that time. Turn Up the Sun is also a very fine tune. I think I'd throw in To Be Where There's Life too. The Richard Fearless production of that song is badass with the raw, gritty, fuzzed out bass and the rhythm guitars, plus the sitars. (Also if anyone reading this liked that sound, check out the band Elephant Stone; they're very similar to it). Otherwise, you can toss aside most of the other songs to be B-sides or rarities that would still yet to be found but rumored, if we lived in an alternate timeline (looking at you TNOR). Edit: Keep the Dream Alive is good too; just nix the "La la la"s and go from the solo straight to the outro. |
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Post by Aman on Nov 3, 2019 21:52:21 GMT -5
Can anybody give a reason that they dislike Heathen Chemistry? Are you just saying it to be different? The songs are a good length, well written, the singles were hits, the performances were good, the tour went well, can somebody tell me why it gets so much shit? lol. |
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