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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 25, 2022 13:25:47 GMT -5
I wanna live in a dream in my Liam record machine!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 25, 2022 13:34:14 GMT -5
The latest in ambiguous hype If this is true then the new album should be really good. But we'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by lg on Jan 25, 2022 14:00:41 GMT -5
What's the point of announcing a single two weeks before it's out? They didn't even put it on apple music, amazon etc for a pre order
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Post by Marissa on Jan 25, 2022 14:42:29 GMT -5
PR method isn't great, nobody announces a single more than a couple days before dropping it anymore but is liam going to get new fans at this point? realistically. just building hype for those of us who already care
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Post by mancraider on Jan 25, 2022 14:53:07 GMT -5
If they are announcing it in advance like this then there has to be some press before release so I'd be surprised if things don't start ramping up this Friday. Interviews, previews etc.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 25, 2022 14:54:38 GMT -5
PR method isn't great, nobody announces a single more than a couple days before dropping it anymore but is liam going to get new fans at this point? realistically. just building hype for those of us who already care It’s definitely a weird/strange move. Even 10 years ago the idea of announcing a single early but not dropping it was falling out big time. We live in an age when everything is now.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 25, 2022 15:10:23 GMT -5
Had the song been released to radio early I would get it but just knowing about it a couple of weeks before doesn’t really bother me.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 25, 2022 18:45:35 GMT -5
PR method isn't great, nobody announces a single more than a couple days before dropping it anymore but is liam going to get new fans at this point? realistically. just building hype for those of us who already care It’s definitely a weird/strange move. Even 10 years ago the idea of announcing a single early but not dropping it was falling out big time. We live in an age when everything is now. yeah for sure. people move onto the next thing way too quickly to announce a single way early like that. i feel like the entirety of liam's solo career has lacked in marketing strategy
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Post by freddy838 on Jan 25, 2022 19:23:38 GMT -5
Probably Liam was just too excited and impatient and couldn't stop himself from announcing it on twitter. I don't see how it's any different if he had said nothing and dropped it out of the blue on the day.
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Post by mancraider on Jan 25, 2022 19:50:50 GMT -5
Tbf I guess the single announcement could have been kinda forced on them as the brits line up was being confirmed with Liam making an appearance.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 25, 2022 20:18:45 GMT -5
I don't see how it's any different if he had said nothing and dropped it out of the blue on the day. Makes no difference to sales whatsoever and the promotion will start soon enough. This is just the "why isn't it here yet?" phase of waiting to hear the song on this forum.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 25, 2022 20:25:18 GMT -5
i feel like the entirety of liam's solo career has lacked in marketing strategy Counterpoint: people said he was washed up forever 5 years ago, he's almost 50, and now he's sold out two nights at Knebworth and is considered both a major artist and one of the great rock and roll redemption stories. Seems like pretty brilliant marketing to me.
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Post by garylineker on Jan 25, 2022 21:15:18 GMT -5
There's certainly a lot of 'tactics' that his team do that baffle me. The one i truly hate single wise, as i've stated before, is the staggered releases. Something you do if you're Taylor Swift who stays at the top of the charts for weeks and weeks.
EVERY Liam related single 2000 has dropped like a stone after a week. Nowadays they drop faster than that. It's just the same pattern all the time. The one exception being Wall Of Glass that was truly exceptional because of the untimely One Love concert.
It's nothing out the ordinary for someone of his age. Hell, its a fucking great achievement for a man of his age in any genre to even chart. But please for the love of god release the vinyls and download at the same time.
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Post by garylineker on Jan 25, 2022 21:24:09 GMT -5
i feel like the entirety of liam's solo career has lacked in marketing strategy Counterpoint: people said he was washed up forever 5 years ago, he's almost 50, and now he's sold out two nights at Knebworth and is considered both a major artist and one of the great rock and roll redemption stories. Seems like pretty brilliant marketing to me. You're absolutely right but the other post is also correct too. I think a lot of Liam's success had other factors and there's still issues we all rightly point our marketing wise. There was a perfect storm for the first album of the Supersonic documentary initially, the songs being a lot better (which yet again isn't marketing, Liam sounding a lot better, looking a lot cooler etc. I could go on. In terms of marketing he actually kind of markets himself. Beady Eye wise, they just gave up on him after the first album so it's easy to think the marketing now is so much better. They give him the exposure Liam Gallagher should have. The previous regime in Beady Eye got just about everything wrong in my opinion. From the album covers down to the name. Having said all that, there's a lot i am appreciative for marketing wise. But that said, he should have been Liam Gallagher singing Oasis songs with the odd few new ones chucked in from the off after Oasis. Anyone who is a big enough fan of the band knew that and the naivety was simply outrageous from all concerned. Probably mainly because the focus management wise was always on Noel initially. Let's face it, it's the same whoever we see. Younger acts like Alex Turner and Pete Doherty are and have been hugely successful as part of their bands. Go and see them on their own playing just other material with a couple of more famous tunes chucked in and its = less appeal and less tickets sold. Strip away the name like Liam did and its marketing suicide. A huge part of Liam's constant appeal is he sings Oasis songs, and so many Oasis songs live. Let's not kid ourselves of the fact. Does anyone here think it's a just big coincidence Noel was the one selling our arenas in minutes with a set crammed full of Oasis and now you can easily get a ticket to most of his shows on the day? Liam now plugs that Oasis gap and that isn't taking anything away from his albums or the success of them.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 26, 2022 0:47:42 GMT -5
A huge part of Liam's constant appeal is he sings Oasis songs, and so many Oasis songs live. Let's not kid ourselves of the fact. Does anyone here think it's a just big coincidence Noel was the one selling our arenas in minutes with a set crammed full of Oasis and now you can easily get a ticket to most of his shows on the day? Liam now plugs that Oasis gap and that isn't taking anything away from his albums or the success of them. this is also so true. after my last noel show i was good and that's from a girl who's seen HFB five times. i'm much more interested in seeing another liam show these days and i've never preferred him previously.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 26, 2022 3:39:20 GMT -5
Counterpoint: people said he was washed up forever 5 years ago, he's almost 50, and now he's sold out two nights at Knebworth and is considered both a major artist and one of the great rock and roll redemption stories. Seems like pretty brilliant marketing to me. You're absolutely right but the other post is also correct too. I think a lot of Liam's success had other factors and there's still issues we all rightly point our marketing wise. There was a perfect storm for the first album of the Supersonic documentary initially, the songs being a lot better (which yet again isn't marketing, Liam sounding a lot better, looking a lot cooler etc. I could go on. Liam looking cool is indeed marketing, though, and for the past few years his team have done a fantastic job on his social media accounts of curating that image constantly using his whole career to build a really fun and compelling portrait of him. Beady Eye is another story, but Beady Eye in my belief was never intended to be a long-term band. It was a placeholder for everyone involved, an answer to “what now?” that made sense in the shock of the moment. Certainly in the beginning Liam thought they were keeping their beady eyes on Noel for a couple years until he wised up and came back. He said it all the time. The decision to swerve Oasis songs might have given Beady Eye a rough start but ironically it allowed Liam to bring the songs back with a bang when he finally restarted things solo, when his voice was rested and ready, so it might have been a blessing in disguise. It was certainly a marketing challenge, but even more than the name and the lack of Oasis, I think what really was hard to overcome in the Beady Eye days was just the fact that Liam’s reputation had taken a near-fatal shot on multiple fronts (his voice, his supposed recklessness, the mythical story that it was his violent confrontation that ended the last great British band, etc.) It needed recuperation and full recuperation of public images can only take place when you go away. To some degree that happened naturally, because Liam was forced to take a finally take a long and complete break, which he desperately needed. But from his return on, the marketing has been quite strong. There are certainly things to quibble with—from my end I wish they’d spend a little more energy on promotion in the USA but I get that it’s a crazy landscape now and probably takes too much effort for too little gain (whereas the efforts they've put in within the UK, synergizing with all the Oasis stuff of the last several years, have paid off handsomely.) But all that said, for Liam’s age, music and history he’s doing incredibly well, so I’m wary that the second-guessers could do a whole lot better at marketing him. I suppose there might be alternate release strategies that might (or might not) work better. The record companies are pretty good though at maximizing their investments so I'm quite sure they're going for the surest bets. Still I'd be interested to see someone give an informed, detailed opinion on how it could be done better ... if anyone has one (not just a "here's what I don't like" but an actual strategy that has been used by other acts.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 4:51:21 GMT -5
I hypothesize. Both Wall Of Glass and Shockwave were announced two weeks earlier, one week after the single the pre-order was launched.
So this Friday there should theoretically be a pre-order.
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Post by lg on Jan 26, 2022 7:48:40 GMT -5
It looks like they've added "Track Listings 1 Tracklist Tbc - Liam Gallagher" on Amazon. Maybe they'll announce the songs' name soon
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jan 26, 2022 10:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by lg on Jan 26, 2022 10:24:38 GMT -5
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Post by idleross on Jan 26, 2022 10:31:08 GMT -5
No Physical Release?
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Post by supertronic on Jan 26, 2022 10:33:25 GMT -5
The cover art is brilliant. Please let there be a 7 or 12" release. C'mon you know
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Post by Rolo on Jan 26, 2022 10:34:41 GMT -5
Simple but cool artwork. Like it.
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Post by lg on Jan 26, 2022 10:42:52 GMT -5
I don't know why but I'm expecting some heavy fuzzy guitars
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Post by jh on Jan 26, 2022 10:45:18 GMT -5
MATE - loving your tune by the way..very nice
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