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Post by sgtpeppr on Jan 2, 2020 2:12:00 GMT -5
Norwich’s goal vs. Spurs should have stood. Once again, VAR is utter bullshit. I didn't mind VAR in the past but I've got enough now. It's clear the referees aren't competent enough to use it and the technology isn't as good as they think it is.  Why was the dotted blue line drawn to his knee, not the shoulder that was the furthest part? his knee is the furthest part forward? |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jan 2, 2020 2:13:21 GMT -5
i find it funny that there are complaints against VAR for correct decisions that would be impossible for a ref to conlude on his own... and i really dont like the overturning of RCs either. cresswells last night was ridiculous. lets just bite the bullet and start using drones as refs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 4:05:32 GMT -5
I didn't mind VAR in the past but I've got enough now. It's clear the referees aren't competent enough to use it and the technology isn't as good as they think it is. Why was the dotted blue line drawn to his knee, not the shoulder that was the furthest part? his knee is the furthest part forward? No it isn't, do you even understand what you're looking at? |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jan 2, 2020 4:18:14 GMT -5
his knee is the furthest part forward? No it isn't, do you even understand what you're looking at? whats to understand? im looking at the spurs defender and which part of him is most forward. yes, if you extend that line straight up, the shoulder crosses it, but i really think thats an optical illusion due to the angle. its just not a natural stance to have your right shoulder in front of your left knee like that. not saying pukki was offside tho...
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Post by Howdo on Jan 2, 2020 14:55:10 GMT -5
No it isn't, do you even understand what you're looking at? whats to understand? im looking at the spurs defender and which part of him is most forward. yes, if you extend that line straight up, the shoulder crosses it, but i really think thats an optical illusion due to the angle. its just not a natural stance to have your right shoulder in front of your left knee like that. not saying pukki was offside tho...
It’s not a natural position from Pukki but when you run from either running the other direction or from a stop position then your body changes and the top half of your body can move forward until your legs catch up with you, so a referee on the pitch won’t see it but camera angles like what’s been posted will. Plus the way the Spurs defender is facing means his shoulder is more in line with the lines unlike Pukki who is clearly switching direction so his shoulder will be more stuck out. This is my whole point with VAR, if this goal happened last season then nothing would have been said about it again and we’d have never seen the silly lines like that. That goal should have stood in my opinion as it wasn’t clear and obvious, they should have quickly used 1 line then let the goal stand. As much as I dislike Jose, he made a good point about the referee’s yesterday. How come the foreign leagues use it so well but we turn it into a laughing stock? |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jan 2, 2020 21:00:28 GMT -5
whats to understand? im looking at the spurs defender and which part of him is most forward. yes, if you extend that line straight up, the shoulder crosses it, but i really think thats an optical illusion due to the angle. its just not a natural stance to have your right shoulder in front of your left knee like that. not saying pukki was offside tho...
It’s not a natural position from Pukki but when you run from either running the other direction or from a stop position then your body changes and the top half of your body can move forward until your legs catch up with you, so a referee on the pitch won’t see it but camera angles like what’s been posted will. Plus the way the Spurs defender is facing means his shoulder is more in line with the lines unlike Pukki who is clearly switching direction so his shoulder will be more stuck out. This is my whole point with VAR, if this goal happened last season then nothing would have been said about it again and we’d have never seen the silly lines like that. That goal should have stood in my opinion as it wasn’t clear and obvious, they should have quickly used 1 line then let the goal stand. As much as I dislike Jose, he made a good point about the referee’s yesterday. How come the foreign leagues use it so well but we turn it into a laughing stock? i was referring to the spurs defender, not pukki. try and stand like the defender is, then put your shoulder in front of your knee...its too awkward. agreed its definitely not 'clear and obvious' tho.
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Post by NYR on Jan 3, 2020 12:49:30 GMT -5
How naive I was, thinking that VAR would be the great equalizer that would help keep things in check. The people working VAR are shits for brains who don't want to override their fellow referees. It's a joke.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 3, 2020 15:51:06 GMT -5
A real post from 2016. 😳  |
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 19, 2020 4:38:46 GMT -5
If City start D. Silva and Gundogan against Madrid, they're gonna get absolutely murdered.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 24, 2020 12:54:17 GMT -5
Is this season an anomaly? Or is it a realignment or the top 6?
Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, and Tottenham have ALL been shocking since the end of last season. With terrible form all across the board. Strange season for sure.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 31, 2020 8:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Feb 1, 2020 5:48:25 GMT -5
Is this season an anomaly? Or is it a realignment or the top 6? Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, and Tottenham have ALL been shocking since the end of last season. With terrible form all across the board. Strange season for sure. Woeful managerial appointments to blame for all those clubs compared to a club like Liverpool and City who have two of the greatest managers ever to grace the game. Just watch the ‘big’ Liverpool-Man Utd match a couple of weeks ago and one club has a supremely charismatic master tactician and coach on the sidelines and the other has a deluded incompetent chump pissing about. The disparity in quality is huge. Arteta and Lampard are rookies for now so they get a pass, but Spurs hiring a washed up has-been? Joke club. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 16:19:41 GMT -5
Sheff Utd in the champions league would be incredible.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 22, 2020 9:28:44 GMT -5
Was a clear red against Tottenham which VAR managed to somehow royally fuck up. VAR is a disgrace.
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 22, 2020 9:35:37 GMT -5
Was a clear red against Tottenham which VAR managed to somehow royally fuck up. VAR is a disgrace. Just let the on-pitch ref look at the screen. It was one of the most blatant reds you'll ever see. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 22, 2020 13:25:22 GMT -5
Is contemporary Leicester like Blackburn in the mid to late1990s.....? Blackburn Won the title once in the middle of last decade, strong team thereafter for few seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 5:41:05 GMT -5
Just seen the Bournemouth VAR decision. What a mess. Imagine celebrating a goal and then its no goal and you've got a penalty against you. What the fuck is happening with football. VAR can go in the bin.
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 24, 2020 8:48:08 GMT -5
Just seen the Bournemouth VAR decision. What a mess. Imagine celebrating a goal and then its no goal and you've got a penalty against you. What the fuck is happening with football. VAR can go in the bin. It was the right decision though? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 9:47:26 GMT -5
Just seen the Bournemouth VAR decision. What a mess. Imagine celebrating a goal and then its no goal and you've got a penalty against you. What the fuck is happening with football. VAR can go in the bin. It was the right decision though? Still doesnt make it right. The fans who pay to watch their team play and chant “Fuck VAR” because its ruining the experience of football. Players are not even celebrating goals anymore. Its shit. The joy and emotion of football is being ruined. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 24, 2020 10:20:40 GMT -5
It was the right decision though? Still doesnt make it right. The fans who pay to watch their team play and chant “Fuck VAR” because its ruining the experience of football. Players are not even celebrating goals anymore. Its shit. The joy and emotion of football is being ruined. It also changes the psychological part for the players too. |
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 24, 2020 15:33:55 GMT -5
It was the right decision though? Still doesnt make it right. The fans who pay to watch their team play and chant “Fuck VAR” because its ruining the experience of football. Players are not even celebrating goals anymore. Its shit. The joy and emotion of football is being ruined. So you chose emotions over the right call? What? Maybe that's an English thing because the only world cup came from one of the worst calls in history but I want a fair game |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 24, 2020 16:09:47 GMT -5
It was the right decision though? Still doesnt make it right. The fans who pay to watch their team play and chant “Fuck VAR” because its ruining the experience of football. Players are not even celebrating goals anymore. Its shit. The joy and emotion of football is being ruined. If the rules being enforced makes the game less fun, then the problem is in the rules. |
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Post by globe on Feb 24, 2020 17:37:14 GMT -5
Still doesnt make it right. The fans who pay to watch their team play and chant “Fuck VAR” because its ruining the experience of football. Players are not even celebrating goals anymore. Its shit. The joy and emotion of football is being ruined. If the rules being enforced makes the game less fun, then the problem is in the rules. Not exactly. Thon Bournemouth game at the weekend - the ball clearly hit the boy’s shoulder, no his arm, and the absolute numpty watching the replay says it’s handball. Chelsea v Spurs - boy clearly stamps on the Chelsea boy and again nae kunt watching it back thinks that’s a red card? Bizzare. |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 24, 2020 18:23:59 GMT -5
If the rules being enforced makes the game less fun, then the problem is in the rules. Not exactly. Thon Bournemouth game at the weekend - the ball clearly hit the boy’s shoulder, no his arm, and the absolute numpty watching the replay says it’s handball. Chelsea v Spurs - boy clearly stamps on the Chelsea boy and again nae kunt watching it back thinks that’s a red card? Bizzare. Oh, don't get me wrong, the Lo Celso thing was a blatant red and VAR is fucking up all over the place, but with a lot of the "can't even celebrate a goal anymore" stuff, it's about the offside rule and the ridiculous current idea of handball. Personally, I'd like to see the offside rule changed, and VAR being a lot more about the ref seeing replays of red cards/penalties and a lot less about faceless people twenty miles away making a decision. It'd be good if there was an option to hear the ref's mic, too, although they couldn't make it default due to the swearing. I also like the "clear and obvious error" thing, but that doesn't seem to be being applied in the slightest. |
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Post by globe on Feb 25, 2020 17:59:42 GMT -5
Not exactly. Thon Bournemouth game at the weekend - the ball clearly hit the boy’s shoulder, no his arm, and the absolute numpty watching the replay says it’s handball. Chelsea v Spurs - boy clearly stamps on the Chelsea boy and again nae kunt watching it back thinks that’s a red card? Bizzare. Oh, don't get me wrong, the Lo Celso thing was a blatant red and VAR is fucking up all over the place, but with a lot of the "can't even celebrate a goal anymore" stuff, it's about the offside rule and the ridiculous current idea of handball. Personally, I'd like to see the offside rule changed, and VAR being a lot more about the ref seeing replays of red cards/penalties and a lot less about faceless people twenty miles away making a decision. It'd be good if there was an option to hear the ref's mic, too, although they couldn't make it default due to the swearing. I also like the "clear and obvious error" thing, but that doesn't seem to be being applied in the slightest. I’m old enough to remember when you were offside if you were in line with the last defender. Then it was changed to be you were onside if in line - the reason behind that was to encourage more goals being scored. Then linesmen were told to give the benefit of doubt to the attacker if there were any close decisions - again to encourage more goals and attacking play. Now, with VAR, the whole lot of that has went out the window. It’s just pish. |
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