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Post by The Escapist on Dec 7, 2019 13:17:24 GMT -5
That'll be that for this season, then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 16:04:19 GMT -5
Arsenal are shite, they need Big Sam to keep them up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 16:29:37 GMT -5
ignore that, they're winning 3-1 now. dunno how the fuck that happened.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 14, 2019 11:53:14 GMT -5
Chelsea have now lost 4 out of their last 5 Premier League matches, yet we don’t hear a peep about their crisis.
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Post by MacaRonic on Dec 15, 2019 18:54:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 17:40:46 GMT -5
City vs. Leicester was a great game today.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 22, 2019 12:53:25 GMT -5
Clear red card for Son - what a kick in the balls. Tottenham meltdown.
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Post by ossieoss30 on Dec 24, 2019 10:21:29 GMT -5
City vs. Leicester was a great game today. Glad you enjoyed it. As a Leicester fan I hated it. Lol. Fair play to Man City, they played superbly.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 26, 2019 14:52:15 GMT -5
Surely we’re all Leicester tonight. Come on you Foxes!!
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Post by MacaRonic on Dec 26, 2019 17:11:52 GMT -5
Biblical x
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 26, 2019 17:40:41 GMT -5
No chance are Leicester the second-best team in the League. Even Man Utd were better than them today.
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Post by Aman on Dec 26, 2019 20:27:39 GMT -5
Leicester were so pathetic lol. Should be ashamed of themselves.
League's really shit this season, Chelsea are somehow still 4th and they really aren't good at all.
Ajax and Valencia should've wiped the floor with them in the CL if not for weird red cards and shit finishing and their form in the Prem since has been so bad.
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Post by matt on Dec 27, 2019 10:25:23 GMT -5
Half way through the season and so far we’ve concluded:
Liverpool are by far the best team Leicester are punching above their weight City fans are a bunch of tin foil hat wankers Solskjaer is somehow still in charge of United - and with Poch available? Get your act together. Arsenal are just tragic. I really worry about their future.
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Post by Aman on Dec 27, 2019 10:45:18 GMT -5
Chelsea, Spurs, United and Arsenal all need big work really.
City won't do shit in the CL either with their defence.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 27, 2019 10:58:14 GMT -5
Just incredible to see how klopps football has evolved over the the last 10 years. Best coach in the world. Yeah I'm biased.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 27, 2019 17:03:51 GMT -5
They say you can’t win the league before Xmas, but this yr Liverpool had done so.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 28, 2019 13:06:01 GMT -5
Norwich’s goal vs. Spurs should have stood. Once again, VAR is utter bullshit.
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Post by ossieoss30 on Dec 29, 2019 6:03:39 GMT -5
Half way through the season and so far we’ve concluded: Liverpool are by far the best team Leicester are punching above their weight City fans are a bunch of tin foil hat wankers Solskjaer is somehow still in charge of United - and with Poch available? Get your act together. Arsenal are just tragic. I really worry about their future. Glad neutrals think we are punching. We really aren’t. We froze against Liverpool and Man City who both played us off the park but people seem to forget we have the youngest squad in the league and they are still learning. Long may the underestimation continue...!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 11:42:46 GMT -5
Norwich’s goal vs. Spurs should have stood. Once again, VAR is utter bullshit. I didn't mind VAR in the past but I've got enough now. It's clear the referees aren't competent enough to use it and the technology isn't as good as they think it is. Why was the dotted blue line drawn to his knee, not the shoulder that was the furthest part? Also, if the situation was that unclear there's no fucking reason the referee should start changing anything because he thinks he might be offside, that's just guessing. And practically even if Pukki was 2cm offside it made zero difference in the goal. Why would you take the risk of changing the decision for something that small considering there's a big chance it's not a right decision? Another problem is determining when the pass left the player's foot. Why are they trying to catch a few centimeter offsides when the frame rate is so low that the players can be moving almost half a meter between each frame There's just not enough accuracy in the fucking system so it shouldn't be used for decisions that aren't clear. The technology isn't there so stop pretending VAR can be used for everything
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 29, 2019 14:31:55 GMT -5
Norwich’s goal vs. Spurs should have stood. Once again, VAR is utter bullshit. I didn't mind VAR in the past but I've got enough now. It's clear the referees aren't competent enough to use it and the technology isn't as good as they think it is. Why was the dotted blue line drawn to his knee, not the shoulder that was the furthest part? Also, if the situation was that unclear there's no fucking reason the referee should start changing anything because he thinks he might be offside, that's just guessing. And practically even if Pukki was 2cm offside it made zero difference in the goal. Why would you take the risk of changing the decision for something that small considering there's a big chance it's not a right decision? Another problem is determining when the pass left the player's foot. Why are they trying to catch a few centimeter offsides when the frame rate is so low that the players can be moving almost half a meter between each frame There's just not enough accuracy in the fucking system so it shouldn't be used for decisions that aren't clear. The technology isn't there so stop pretending VAR can be used for everythingeven if its just an inch or mm, offside is offside. its like saying 'yeah he was 10cm clear but who cares the defender is slow anyway' and also its not about when the ball left the foot anymore, its about when the foot first touched the ball. offside is a pretty black or white decision. but i guess you are mad because thats pukki in the picture
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 15:11:05 GMT -5
I didn't mind VAR in the past but I've got enough now. It's clear the referees aren't competent enough to use it and the technology isn't as good as they think it is. Why was the dotted blue line drawn to his knee, not the shoulder that was the furthest part? Also, if the situation was that unclear there's no fucking reason the referee should start changing anything because he thinks he might be offside, that's just guessing. And practically even if Pukki was 2cm offside it made zero difference in the goal. Why would you take the risk of changing the decision for something that small considering there's a big chance it's not a right decision? Another problem is determining when the pass left the player's foot. Why are they trying to catch a few centimeter offsides when the frame rate is so low that the players can be moving almost half a meter between each frame There's just not enough accuracy in the fucking system so it shouldn't be used for decisions that aren't clear. The technology isn't there so stop pretending VAR can be used for everythingeven if its just an inch or mm, offside is offside. its like saying 'yeah he was 10cm clear but who cares the defender is slow anyway' I know that but my point is that VAR technology isn't good enough to determine whether the situation was actually an offside and therefore such decision should never have been done. Because of the low frame rate there's no way to actually say if that was an offside. Offsides are only black and white if the technology is good enough. Right now it isn't. edit. And even if the technology allowed us to see every single even smallest wrong doing in the game, do people actually want that? All these small benefits people sometimes gain will disappear completely and all left is this rule autism that just makes the game inhumane and robotic. I'm not totally against VAR but the way it's used in Premier League is ridiculous. And somehow it seems to be working better in other countries which doesn't really surprise me either. IMO it should be only used for bigger mistakes, not situations where even with VAR you can't clearly say if it was a right call or not. That just breaks the flow of the game and adds referee mistakes even more.
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Dec 30, 2019 8:00:04 GMT -5
The line drawing is ridiculous, if it’s not clear on first viewing then the original decision should stand. There is no footballing advantage whatsoever gained from being one centimetre offside.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 30, 2019 8:54:51 GMT -5
even if its just an inch or mm, offside is offside. its like saying 'yeah he was 10cm clear but who cares the defender is slow anyway' I know that but my point is that VAR technology isn't good enough to determine whether the situation was actually an offside and therefore such decision should never have been done. Because of the low frame rate there's no way to actually say if that was an offside. Offsides are only black and white if the technology is good enough. Right now it isn't. edit. And even if the technology allowed us to see every single even smallest wrong doing in the game, do people actually want that? All these small benefits people sometimes gain will disappear completely and all left is this rule autism that just makes the game inhumane and robotic. I'm not totally against VAR but the way it's used in Premier League is ridiculous. And somehow it seems to be working better in other countries which doesn't really surprise me either. IMO it should be only used for bigger mistakes, not situations where even with VAR you can't clearly say if it was a right call or not. That just breaks the flow of the game and adds referee mistakes even more. I know what you mean, dortmund has been on both sides of these close offside calls this season. As long as it's consistent I don't have a problem with it. I want the VAR the way it was used at the world cup. It's ironic that a fucking Fifa event showed how football is profiting from it. I don't want to go back just because a lot of those referees suck and don't know how to use it. They will learn and over time the technology will get better so I don't see the point to give up on it. I have seen some horrible calls in my life that lost dortmund not only games but titles. I don't want that again.
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Post by globe on Dec 31, 2019 3:49:43 GMT -5
I just think the whole VAR in England is really sad. Reduced to drawing wee lines on a screen to see if somebody is offside. So refreshing to watch a game with no VAR. The linesman either puts his/her flag up or they don’t. Play on and get on with it.
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Post by Howdo on Dec 31, 2019 4:35:51 GMT -5
The line drawing is ridiculous, if it’s not clear on first viewing then the original decision should stand. There is no footballing advantage whatsoever gained from being one centimetre offside. I enjoyed it at the World Cup when the monitors were at the side of the pitch and it was still the same referee making the decision. But now it’s beyond a joke. Any sport is about the emotion in the game, and the atmosphere in the stadium, it’s not about being perfect. The offside rules are utterly ridiculous that VAR are measuring, all the lines they do is just too over the top. Don’t get me wrong, by the rules it will be the correct call but you are taking the whole passion out of the game. It’s going to get to the point where fans won’t celebrate goals and will wait for the VAR call to be made. They should have a 30 second limit on each decision, if it isn’t clear and obvious then the referee’s original decision will have to stand. I’ve followed football since the 80’s and over the years I’ve started to lose interest as I think the money being thrown around is ridiculous but VAR could be the final nail in the coffin for me, I’ll stick to non league football and rugby league.
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