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Post by mkoasis on Jul 18, 2019 15:09:35 GMT -5
Which gig was this? The story Liam tells about the band playing their heart out like their lives depended on it and there was really no one there to appreciate it.
I always found this to be one of my favourite and most inspiring Oasis stories but can’t remember where/when this was. Can anyone help?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 18, 2019 16:04:16 GMT -5
I was there. Dressed as a dog.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 16:48:46 GMT -5
I was there with my twin.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 18, 2019 17:30:54 GMT -5
You are probably referring to the gig at The Duchess of York in Leeds in April 1994. It was included as an extra on Supersonic:
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 19, 2019 7:27:56 GMT -5
Can you imagine
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 20, 2019 0:05:15 GMT -5
You are probably referring to the gig at The Duchess of York in Leeds in April 1994. It was included as an extra on Supersonic: Thanks for finding that, I appreciate it.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 20, 2019 2:41:31 GMT -5
Liam later wrote song called Little James about this gig: I'm singning this song, for you and your mum and the dog.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 20, 2019 4:12:26 GMT -5
I remember globe's first Oasis gig was in Lucifers in Dundee in 1994, about the same time as this Leeds gig. He had to walk through the stage, next to Noel to get a bathroom. right, globey?
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Post by globe on Jul 22, 2019 16:30:38 GMT -5
I remember globe's first Oasis gig was in Lucifers in Dundee in 1994, about the same time as this Leeds gig. He had to walk through the stage, next to Noel to get a bathroom. right, globey? Yep, Lucifers Mill, tiny wee place. About 25/30 folk there. MCFC was etched into a door at that gig. Was there for a good while afterwards until the pub changed hands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 16:39:17 GMT -5
Noel at Heaton Park
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Post by globe on Jul 23, 2019 1:07:55 GMT -5
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Post by bt95 on Jul 23, 2019 6:08:31 GMT -5
You are probably referring to the gig at The Duchess of York in Leeds in April 1994. It was included as an extra on Supersonic: Not that gig, mate! That gig was the day of Supersonic (the single) being released, or the day after. There was a queue right down the street. I have a pic somewhere. My dad owned the bar next door and said it was mental. At that time, the bar he had was pretty much the busiest place in the north, too, had all the stars in. Liam and Bonehead ended up there after the gig.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 23, 2019 6:13:55 GMT -5
You are probably referring to the gig at The Duchess of York in Leeds in April 1994. It was included as an extra on Supersonic: Thanks for finding that, I appreciate it. Definitely not that gig, mate. www.timeout.com/leeds/blog/ten-legendary-leeds-gigsThat's not the pic I have, but it's one from that night if you scroll down. My dad's bar are the big windows a little further on. The Duchess of York is a really famous old venue in Leeds (the last big band to play there in their early days were the Arctic Monkeys, probably). It's not a Hugo Boss shop The gig you are on about was definitely in Leeds, but would have been much earlier (92/93). By early 1994 Oasis were massive.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 23, 2019 6:37:06 GMT -5
You are probably referring to the gig at The Duchess of York in Leeds in April 1994. It was included as an extra on Supersonic: Not that gig, mate! That gig was the day of Supersonic (the single) being released, or the day after. There was a queue right down the street. I have a pic somewhere. My dad owned the bar next door and said it was mental. At that time, the bar he had was pretty much the busiest place in the north, too, had all the stars in. Liam and Bonehead ended up there after the gig. I'm a bit confused. The video that I linked is not the gig itself, but the audio extra from Supersonic of the band talking about the gig in question. Not sure about the title image on it -- it was obviously added by whomever uploaded that video. That being said, if we believe that their memories are correct and it was in Leeds, they only played Leeds twice in 1993/1994 (and not at all in 1992). Both are listed as at the Dutchess of York, with the 1993 gig as the support band: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=915. Perhaps it wasn't in Leeds proper, but a near by town that has lead to the confusion? Noel from Q magazine in 1995: Unlike almost every other band, you've never had to suffer the three-men-and-a- dog syndrome. People have always kicked down doors to see you.Well, that's not quite true. There was the famous gig at the Duchess of York in Leeds where no-one turned up at all. Not even one person. So we've actually played to less than three men and a dog, and there's not many bands who can say that. But it was great. We did an encore and everything.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 23, 2019 6:44:04 GMT -5
Not that gig, mate! That gig was the day of Supersonic (the single) being released, or the day after. There was a queue right down the street. I have a pic somewhere. My dad owned the bar next door and said it was mental. At that time, the bar he had was pretty much the busiest place in the north, too, had all the stars in. Liam and Bonehead ended up there after the gig. I'm a bit confused. The video that I linked is not the gig itself, but the audio extra from Supersonic of the band talking about the gig in question. Not sure about the title image on it -- it was obviously added by whomever uploaded that video. That being said, if we believe that their memories are correct and it was in Leeds, they only played Leeds twice in 1993/1994 (and not at all in 1992). Both are listed as at the Dutchess of York, with the 1993 gig as the support band: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=915. Perhaps it wasn't in Leeds proper, but a near by town that has lead to the confusion? Noel from Q magazine in 1995: Unlike almost every other band, you've never had to suffer the three-men-and-a- dog syndrome. People have always kicked down doors to see you.Well, that's not quite true. There was the famous gig at the Duchess of York in Leeds where no-one turned up at all. Not even one person. So we've actually played to less than three men and a dog, and there's not many bands who can say that. But it was great. We did an encore and everything. Looks like it was the September 8, 1993 gig at the Dutchess. Here is a picture of their concert flyer: www.flickr.com/photos/lensofdan/7109054187/in/photostream/. Also, here is a forum where the makers of Supersonic are asking for help on this very subject: secretleeds.com/viewtopic.php?t=275&start=80
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Post by bt95 on Jul 23, 2019 7:11:50 GMT -5
Not that gig, mate! That gig was the day of Supersonic (the single) being released, or the day after. There was a queue right down the street. I have a pic somewhere. My dad owned the bar next door and said it was mental. At that time, the bar he had was pretty much the busiest place in the north, too, had all the stars in. Liam and Bonehead ended up there after the gig. I'm a bit confused. The video that I linked is not the gig itself, but the audio extra from Supersonic of the band talking about the gig in question. Not sure about the title image on it -- it was obviously added by whomever uploaded that video. That being said, if we believe that their memories are correct and it was in Leeds, they only played Leeds twice in 1993/1994 (and not at all in 1992). Both are listed as at the Dutchess of York, with the 1993 gig as the support band: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=915. Perhaps it wasn't in Leeds proper, but a near by town that has lead to the confusion? Noel from Q magazine in 1995: Unlike almost every other band, you've never had to suffer the three-men-and-a- dog syndrome. People have always kicked down doors to see you.Well, that's not quite true. There was the famous gig at the Duchess of York in Leeds where no-one turned up at all. Not even one person. So we've actually played to less than three men and a dog, and there's not many bands who can say that. But it was great. We did an encore and everything. Yeh the vid is deffo wrong. I do think they'll have played the Duchess before that (probs in 93) and Noel will be right in saying no-one turned up. But the one in 1994 was packed (there's a write up and pic in that link I posted ). By April 1994, Oasis were selling out and more, before Supersonic had even come out.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 23, 2019 7:12:19 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused. The video that I linked is not the gig itself, but the audio extra from Supersonic of the band talking about the gig in question. Not sure about the title image on it -- it was obviously added by whomever uploaded that video. That being said, if we believe that their memories are correct and it was in Leeds, they only played Leeds twice in 1993/1994 (and not at all in 1992). Both are listed as at the Dutchess of York, with the 1993 gig as the support band: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=915. Perhaps it wasn't in Leeds proper, but a near by town that has lead to the confusion? Noel from Q magazine in 1995: Unlike almost every other band, you've never had to suffer the three-men-and-a- dog syndrome. People have always kicked down doors to see you.Well, that's not quite true. There was the famous gig at the Duchess of York in Leeds where no-one turned up at all. Not even one person. So we've actually played to less than three men and a dog, and there's not many bands who can say that. But it was great. We did an encore and everything. Looks like it was the September 8, 1993 gig at the Dutchess. Here is a picture of their concert flyer: www.flickr.com/photos/lensofdan/7109054187/in/photostream/. Also, here is a forum where the makers of Supersonic are asking for help on this very subject: secretleeds.com/viewtopic.php?t=275&start=80Great work!
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 23, 2019 7:31:52 GMT -5
Great work! Also worth noting is that this is another early gig that the gigography on the official Oasis site has the wrong date for (they also have the wrong date for the Dodgy support gig in June 1993 that Marcus Russell attended with Johnny Marr). They show it as on September 11, but that flyer obviously proves otherwise (if it's real). Basically, don't trust that site for gig dates prior to 1994.
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Post by oasisunited on Mar 27, 2020 13:41:39 GMT -5
Found a picture that contradicts the flyer and puts the date as September 11, 1993: That would put the gig on a Saturday night, which I find unlikely, as I doubt that the venue would have let them charge £50 a head and lose a Saturday night gate. The date on the flyer (September 8) seems more likely, as that would have been a Wednesday night and I doubt that venue expected a big crowd anyway.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 27, 2020 18:19:07 GMT -5
Found a picture that contradicts the flyer and puts the date as September 11, 1993: That would put the gig on a Saturday night, which I find unlikely, as I doubt that the venue would have let them charge £50 a head and lose a Saturday night gate. The date on the flyer (September 8) seems more likely, as that would have been a Wednesday night and I doubt that venue expected a big crowd anyway. Great find. And to me that sounds like a review of a gig that actual people would have been at, too? Unless it's just saying it was a pic from that one? I know Noel/the band can exaggerate things, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they'd played Leeds before getting a record deal (so prior to May 1993) - or maybe just after - and that being the day they played to nobody. If it is indeed true. Oasis only played Leeds twice in 1994 - at these dates/venues. 1. Duchess of York - April 1994 (the day after Supersonic's release, I believe) Queue down the street for that one. 2. Irish Centre - July or August 1994 IIRC
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Post by oasisunited on Mar 27, 2020 18:25:23 GMT -5
Found a picture that contradicts the flyer and puts the date as September 11, 1993: That would put the gig on a Saturday night, which I find unlikely, as I doubt that the venue would have let them charge £50 a head and lose a Saturday night gate. The date on the flyer (September 8) seems more likely, as that would have been a Wednesday night and I doubt that venue expected a big crowd anyway. Great find. And to me that sounds like a review of a gig that actual people would have been at, too? Unless it's just saying it was a pic from that one? I know Noel/the band can exaggerate things, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they'd played Leeds before getting a record deal (so prior to May 1993) - or maybe just after - and that being the day they played to nobody. If it is indeed true. Oasis only played Leeds twice in 1994 - at these dates/venues. 1. Duchess of York - April 1994 (the day after Supersonic's release, I believe) Queue down the street for that one. 2. Irish Centre - July or August 1994 IIRC I think that it is just incorrectly labeled, as I believe the picture is actually from the April, 1994 release gig. I have seen other places that claim that the September 1993 gig was on Friday/Saturday, but I think that is people choosing the weekend in lieu of knowing the actual date. The copy of the monthly flyer is still the best source, in my opinion.
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Post by bt95 on May 10, 2020 17:07:30 GMT -5
Just watching an interview with Ashcroft from 1997.
Five mins in he talks about Oasis, and how he watched them in front of 'three people in Bradford' at one point.
Could be an exaggeration but made me think it's possible that it's when Oasis/Verve were on the road together in 1993?
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Post by carl80 on May 10, 2020 18:16:12 GMT -5
Great hearing stories about the small gigs and early years, I saw them in 94 in The Royal Court Liverpool but there was a few hundred there, but the year before they played a gig in a place called the Krazy House In Liverpool, knowing that place I would have loved to have seen them there but wasn’t into them the year before.
Always think it was only 2 years from when they where playing those small gigs to Knebworth.
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on May 11, 2020 6:19:23 GMT -5
Early days are very mysterious
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Post by oasisunited on May 11, 2020 6:49:25 GMT -5
Just watching an interview with Ashcroft from 1997. Five mins in he talks about Oasis, and how he watched them in front of 'three people in Bradford' at one point. Could be an exaggeration but made me think it's possible that it's when Oasis/Verve were on the road together in 1993? Oasis supported The Verve in Bradford on December 14, 1993 (venue: The King's Hall), so perhaps as an opening act (and pre-DM and just after Columbia got its first radio play earlier in the month) there was a late arriving crowd or Richard is just using hyperbole to state that Oasis was the opening act/people were really there to see The Verve.
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