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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 30, 2019 19:57:24 GMT -5
Similar in potential. Similar in wasted said potential.
My vote goes to the Courteeners, who really should be much better than they are, I do like The Courteeners, though. Just overall mediocre.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 1, 2019 1:31:17 GMT -5
I used to love Kasabian. Saw them live 9 times and met them in person several times.
Loved their first album, but after "West Ryders..." I lost interest in them.
The Courteeners are a kind of band nobody cares for them outside Manchester.
I've seen them once here and 99% of the crowds were British and they were beasts.
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Post by lahaine on Jul 1, 2019 4:17:59 GMT -5
Never rated either that much to be fair. Both Wanna be Oasis's but both have loyal fanbases but were never going to make much dent outside UK and Ireland.Did the Courteeners even have a number 1 album or top hit single. Outside Manchester no one cares for them.
Kasabian had potential, the minute they got rid off Chris Karloff they were done for me. Their debut album is their strongest work, Empire and West Ryder Pauper Lunatic Asylum had some decent stuff on it. They really get by now on their live shows.They are the type of band who probably end in mid size arenas or 3,000 small theatres over time.
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Post by matt on Jul 1, 2019 4:29:23 GMT -5
I must live in a parallel universe because I don’t ever remember The Courteeners having potential as there were not even mildly decent or even mildly big. Kasabian’s first album is very decent but The Courteeners are just one of the worst bands of all time.
Who knows what Kasabian would have sounded like if Karloff had stayed. Creative differences wasn’t it? A shame, but if turds like British Legion indicated the path they were going down, then no wonder he left. Big missed opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 5:47:08 GMT -5
The Courteeners had one decent album and then have produced shit after shit album yet for some reason they are popular. Just look at some of their lyrics ffs..
"What took you so long? was there a queue at the Post Office? What took you so long was there a double decker bus you just happened to miss?"
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jul 1, 2019 9:04:06 GMT -5
I used to fuckin love kasabian but they went down hill after the 3rd album, I haven't even listened to one song from the last 2 LPS cos I got no interest in them also Tom and serge are massive wankers aswell, used to think they were cool but no more
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 10:05:34 GMT -5
Courteeners have already maximised their potential.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 10:42:19 GMT -5
Kasabian's first three albums are very good. I love West Ryder as a "concept". After that, it is laughable. Serge is also an absolute weirdo. Tom is a fantastic singer.
I much prefer the Courteeners. The first album is fantastic. They also have a few decent hits off each album.Their setlist is strong if you're into that sort of music. Tunes like:
In love with a notion
Summer
Take Over The World
Problem is that Liam is a shocking singer. And he always tries to do weird things with his voice. For example, listen to Small Bones at Heaton Park first time round and it is a tune. Listen to it from the other day at Glasto and it is poor.
The Courteeners for me are a better band, but Kasabian should have been much bigger than they currently are.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 1, 2019 10:58:48 GMT -5
I used to fuckin love kasabian but they went down hill after the 3rd album, I haven't even listened to one song from the last 2 LPS cos I got no interest in them also Tom and serge are massive wankers aswell, used to think they were cool but no more Kasabian are all bravado without actually accomplishing anything of note. I hate bands like that. It’s all hot air. I guess touring with Oasis in 2005 made them feel like they also conquered the world in the 90s. Newsflash....you didn’t! Having that been said, I’ve seen them 3 times (2005, 2006, 2011) and once on Letterman 2006. All killer shows. |
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Post by lahaine on Jul 1, 2019 13:13:37 GMT -5
I must live in a parallel universe because I don’t ever remember The Courteeners having potential as there were not even mildly decent or even mildly big. Kasabian’s first album is very decent but The Courteeners are just one of the worst bands of all time. Who knows what Kasabian would have sounded like if Karloff had stayed. Creative differences wasn’t it? A shame, but if turds like British Legion indicated the path they were going down, then no wonder he left. Big missed opportunity. I heard that Karloff and Meighan hated the sight of each other, and one had to go plus I think Serge wanted total control. So it fell into his lap. I'm surprised that the Courteeners were bought up, I was shocked once when they sold out this huge ground in Manchester and they had the awesome James supporting them. I was baffled by it. |
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Post by lahaine on Jul 1, 2019 13:20:29 GMT -5
I used to fuckin love kasabian but they went down hill after the 3rd album, I haven't even listened to one song from the last 2 LPS cos I got no interest in them also Tom and serge are massive wankers aswell, used to think they were cool but no more Kasabian are all bravado without actually accomplishing anything of note. I hate bands like that. It’s all hot air. I guess touring with Oasis in 2005 made them feel like they also conquered the world in the 90s. Newsflash....you didn’t! Having that been said, I’ve seen them 3 times (2005, 2006, 2011) and once on Letterman 2006. All killer shows. They had a bad case of the Gallagher-ism's, it's the exact same as the Bono-isms. Leader singers and Guitarist copying everything of another more talented and famous band. Few horrible bands that emerged in the mid 00's British scene all wanted to be like the Gallaghers but all looked fake doing it. Kasabian are one of those bands that become big in Britain and the rest of the world just shrugs with indifference i.e Stereophonics, Travis. |
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Post by matt on Jul 1, 2019 18:02:12 GMT -5
I must live in a parallel universe because I don’t ever remember The Courteeners having potential as there were not even mildly decent or even mildly big. Kasabian’s first album is very decent but The Courteeners are just one of the worst bands of all time. Who knows what Kasabian would have sounded like if Karloff had stayed. Creative differences wasn’t it? A shame, but if turds like British Legion indicated the path they were going down, then no wonder he left. Big missed opportunity. I heard that Karloff and Meighan hated the sight of each other, and one had to go plus I think Serge wanted total control. So it fell into his lap. I'm surprised that the Courteeners were bought up, I was shocked once when they sold out this huge ground in Manchester and they had the awesome James supporting them. I was baffled by it. Strange, neither in Kasabian can sing and the direction to go into a more conventional sound is totally at odds with their ability. In fact, they’re just shockingly embarrassing singers in the more ‘songy’ ‘ballady’ numbers. Meighan does however have the right voice for the heavy beat numbers, the stuff they excelled at. In some ways, they’re like Primal Scream - can do the electro soundscape and beats vibes very well but appalling on the conventional pop songs (Riot City Blues with the cringe fest Country Girl deservedly listed in the ten worst Scottish albums ever made). |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jul 2, 2019 14:16:09 GMT -5
I used to fuckin love kasabian but they went down hill after the 3rd album, I haven't even listened to one song from the last 2 LPS cos I got no interest in them also Tom and serge are massive wankers aswell, used to think they were cool but no more Kasabian are all bravado without actually accomplishing anything of note. I hate bands like that. It’s all hot air. I guess touring with Oasis in 2005 made them feel like they also conquered the world in the 90s. Newsflash....you didn’t! Having that been said, I’ve seen them 3 times (2005, 2006, 2011) and once on Letterman 2006. All killer shows. kasabian are a good live band however i dont think they have the songs to back that up anymore, if went to a kasabian show where it was all the last 2 albums id be bored shitless regardless of the spectacle on display |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 14:27:58 GMT -5
Courteeners by default because there was no potential in Kasabian. For their level of talent I think they were doing well when they learned to put trousers on.
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Post by lahaine on Jul 3, 2019 3:51:45 GMT -5
Kasabian are all bravado without actually accomplishing anything of note. I hate bands like that. It’s all hot air. I guess touring with Oasis in 2005 made them feel like they also conquered the world in the 90s. Newsflash....you didn’t! Having that been said, I’ve seen them 3 times (2005, 2006, 2011) and once on Letterman 2006. All killer shows. kasabian are a good live band however i dont think they have the songs to back that up anymore, if went to a kasabian show where it was all the last 2 albums id be bored shitless regardless of the spectacle on display They are a definition of a mid table band for me, none of their tunes will be remembered in 20 years time and none of their albums will be troubling any best ever albums list. But they have a fanbase there for their stuff, laddie rock and fan's who love to go to a gig for a piss up. But unlike the bands they tried so hard at been like Oasis and Primal Scream, they haven't got a album the defines a generation. For me that what makes a great band. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 3, 2019 18:04:29 GMT -5
That Kiss by The Courteeners. One of their best, surely.
“It meant nothing, it meant absolutely everything.” Brilliant lyric. Not something too dissimilar from what Noel Gallagher would pen.
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Post by crisppacket on Jul 4, 2019 18:00:45 GMT -5
yuck
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 5, 2019 14:19:29 GMT -5
Kasabian did the best they could with talent they have, so big respect for them. If only we could say that for Noel.
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Post by russiangenius on Jul 5, 2019 14:33:19 GMT -5
Kasabian are popular enough in my country, having sold-out shows for >5,000 venues. Festivals too. Their live shows are so immense, Tom and Serge know how to 'explode' audience. I fell in love with them in 2014 after watching their Glastonbury show that year. I have no problem with two latest releases, 3-4 songs from each are pretty ones but yeah, not West Ryder level. I don't think Kasabian will be in Hall of Fame or something but they're huge enough in between legends and just average bands. Potential? They're in good place right now. 2020 album will show everything - will they even bigger or stay as Leicester lads
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Post by standbymoi on Jul 5, 2019 14:41:26 GMT -5
I must live in a parallel universe because I don’t ever remember The Courteeners having potential as there were not even mildly decent or even mildly big. Kasabian’s first album is very decent but The Courteeners are just one of the worst bands of all time. Who knows what Kasabian would have sounded like if Karloff had stayed. Creative differences wasn’t it? A shame, but if turds like British Legion indicated the path they were going down, then no wonder he left. Big missed opportunity. Karloff has probably earned more money than Tom Meighan in the last 15 years without actually being in the band just from his songwriting royalties from that first album I reckon. The songs get played in a lot of tv shows, trailers and computer games all over the world I bet |
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 6, 2019 12:04:17 GMT -5
I think Kasabian had the potential to be huge. Great attitude, charismatic band, poweful singles and the ability to appeal to so many audiences (pop, rock, electronic...), they got lot of airplay, songs on popular videogames, movies... but they messed it up after the third album and never recovered from it.
For some time they had the potential to become the last big rock and roll band, but Arctic Monkeys stole that position.
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Post by lahaine on Jul 6, 2019 16:02:07 GMT -5
I think Kasabian had the potential to be huge. Great attitude, charismatic band, poweful singles and the ability to appeal to so many audiences (pop, rock, electronic...), they got lot of airplay, songs on popular videogames, movies... but they messed it up after the third album and never recovered from it. For some time they had the potential to become the last big rock and roll band, but Arctic Monkeys stole that position. Kasabian had to wrestle the position more from Arctic Monkeys, the Monkeys were huge from their first album onwards and they were far bigger outside the UK it's not even funny compared to Kasabian. I think they were a band that I think would be huge in the UK, but I never got them as charismatic or had the ability to play for many audiences. they had one, it was indie/rock laddie crowd. They got that tied down. But I never thought they had global appeal imo. Getting the number 1 album in the Uk and Ireland and doing sold out tours in those countries was as far as it got for those guys. |
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