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Jul 29, 2019 14:07:17 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2019 14:07:17 GMT -5
What is with people saying that Once is up there with the Oasis classics? Reminds me when people said The Beat Goes On is as good as the Masterplan. No. true. it's ridiculous, what people make of that song. it's just another liam plodder, where he tries to sound deep. i don't see anything in it, that puts it above the likes of morning son, start anew or any other mid tempo, pseudeo deep song he has written over the last 10 or so years. same about the voice. he sounds okayish, you don't run away from it. but people here honestly believe he sounds better than in his prime is bloody delusional. i mean, go to youtube, listen to anything from the early oasis years and tell me again it sounds anything like it. it doesn't. not even close. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. quality wise, it's oasis b-side material from the early 2000s, in the late 2000s, it should have made the album above dog turd like nature of reality or even ain't got nothing. I agree with half of what you speak of. Especially with his voice now vs mid 90s. He sounds very very good at the moment but it’s not close to prime Liam and it doesn’t really have to be. How many people get to be God more than.......once? I’ve seen reactions before about new Liam songs being the bees knees like Morning Son, Start A Knew and now with Once but this song is clearly good and Oasis would have been so lucky to have a tune like this in 2002-2005. We got shoved a lot of shit back then.
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Post by pliolite on Jul 29, 2019 14:13:11 GMT -5
Did people genuinely say The Beat Goes On was up there with The Masterplan?? Clearly they needed to get to their GPs asap for a change of meds.....XD
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Jul 29, 2019 14:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 29, 2019 14:20:15 GMT -5
There was some preview video for DGSS, like 15 seconds of every song and I was crazy about The Beat Goes On, I thought that it was gonna be great song.
I think that it was this part and I still think that part is good. Chorus is shit.
To the gig in the sky And when I arrived The angels were singing a song Yeah you know the one Are you singing along?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:22:33 GMT -5
The Beat Goes On is a song that every time i hear it, i always picture teddy bears holding hands and going round and round.
Once is way above tunes like that, and also way above stuff like Morning Son and Start Anew. Beady Eye wished they had a song like it available to them back in the day.
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Jul 29, 2019 14:23:09 GMT -5
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Post by underawaterfall on Jul 29, 2019 14:23:09 GMT -5
Once is 41st in the midweek charts
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Post by oasis6 on Jul 29, 2019 14:24:31 GMT -5
Honestly, I think the moniker of Oasis automatically means “things are better” for some. Oasis MKII produced a lot of quality, but a lot of Liam’s solo stuff and NGHFB piss on most of the MKII stuff. If something is good, don’t be afraid to embrace it just because things aren’t the way they were.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2019 14:31:02 GMT -5
Once is 41st in the midweek charts But #1 in our hearts....
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Jul 29, 2019 14:34:21 GMT -5
Post by oasis6 on Jul 29, 2019 14:34:21 GMT -5
There was some preview video for DGSS, like 15 seconds of every song and I was crazy about The Beat Goes On, I thought that it was gonna be great song. I think that it was this part and I still think that part is good. Chorus is shit. To the gig in the sky And when I arrived The angels were singing a song Yeah you know the one Are you singing along? That is the best part of the song I feel, meaning the snippet teased us well. The Beat Goes On is no masterpiece, but I think it suffers from a few forum association issues. 1. It’s Beady Eye, so automatically, it gets labelled as a joke here, unless its called Four Letter Word, Sons of the Stage or Flick of the Finger 2. The was so much hype, that in the end when we were let down, some were plain disappointed, while others seem to be in the “Ew, don’t lump me in with that Beady Eye crowd” about the song. Again, it is nowhere near a masterpiece, but it seems to get unnecessarily shit upon. While BE deserved the criticism with a bunch of poor songs, I still feel some of their stuff doesn’t get the time of day because they are BE songs.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 29, 2019 14:36:31 GMT -5
There was some preview video for DGSS, like 15 seconds of every song and I was crazy about The Beat Goes On, I thought that it was gonna be great song. I think that it was this part and I still think that part is good. Chorus is shit. To the gig in the sky And when I arrived The angels were singing a song Yeah you know the one Are you singing along? That is the best part of the song I feel, meaning the snippet teased us well. The Beat Goes On is no masterpiece, but I think it suffers from a few forum association issues. 1. It’s Beady Eye, so automatically, it gets labelled as a joke here, unless its called Four Letter Word, Sons of the Stage or Flick of the Finger 2. The was so much hype, that in the end when we were let down, some were plain disappointed, while others seem to be in the “Ew, don’t lump me in with that Beady Eye crowd” about the song. Again, it is nowhere near a masterpiece, but it seems to get unnecessarily shit upon. While BE deserved the criticism with a bunch of poor songs, I still feel some of their stuff doesn’t get the time of day because they are BE songs. Nah, they were just shit.
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Jul 29, 2019 14:38:27 GMT -5
Post by lg on Jul 29, 2019 14:38:27 GMT -5
more than 122k views in less than 24h for the video of once at the bbc piano session, quite impressive (champagne supernova 82k)
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Jul 29, 2019 14:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 29, 2019 14:44:04 GMT -5
There was some preview video for DGSS, like 15 seconds of every song and I was crazy about The Beat Goes On, I thought that it was gonna be great song. I think that it was this part and I still think that part is good. Chorus is shit. To the gig in the sky And when I arrived The angels were singing a song Yeah you know the one Are you singing along? That is the best part of the song I feel, meaning the snippet teased us well. The Beat Goes On is no masterpiece, but I think it suffers from a few forum association issues. 1. It’s Beady Eye, so automatically, it gets labelled as a joke here, unless its called Four Letter Word, Sons of the Stage or Flick of the Finger 2. The was so much hype, that in the end when we were let down, some were plain disappointed, while others seem to be in the “Ew, don’t lump me in with that Beady Eye crowd” about the song. Again, it is nowhere near a masterpiece, but it seems to get unnecessarily shit upon. While BE deserved the criticism with a bunch of poor songs, I still feel some of their stuff doesn’t get the time of day because they are BE songs. And I still don't understand that hype. It was Liam, Gem and Andy, what would you think that it was gonna happen? Everybody should know exactly what to expect from those records. I was hyped because it was the first time that I was waiting for new Gallagher's brothers music. Before that, all their songs were available to me because I became fan after DOYS. But most of you should know better.
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Jul 29, 2019 15:09:01 GMT -5
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Jul 29, 2019 15:09:01 GMT -5
Schooouollol is the new shaiiaiaiinah, which, btw, he fucks up in this song singing a live-sounding “shah”. #teamschololuol rules#
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 29, 2019 15:32:03 GMT -5
What is with people saying that Once is up there with the Oasis classics? Reminds me when people said The Beat Goes On is as good as the Masterplan. No. true. it's ridiculous, what people make of that song. it's just another liam plodder, where he tries to sound deep. i don't see anything in it, that puts it above the likes of morning son, start anew or any other mid tempo, pseudeo deep song he has written over the last 10 or so years. same about the voice. he sounds okayish, you don't run away from it. but people here honestly believe he sounds better than in his prime is bloody delusional. i mean, go to youtube, listen to anything from the early oasis years and tell me again it sounds anything like it. it doesn't. not even close. NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. quality wise, it's oasis b-side material from the early 2000s, in the late 2000s, it should have made the album above dog turd like nature of reality or even ain't got nothing. People are ridiculous for what they are making of the song? Disagree. Another Liam plodder? Disagree. His voice sounds okayish? Disagree. His voice isn’t near his 90s prime? Agree. Not as good as early Oasis peak? Agree. Only as good as 2000s b-side? Disagree. Better than late 2000s album dog turds? Agree. See! We can do balanced discourse in this:section!
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Jul 29, 2019 16:54:07 GMT -5
Post by importantlyidle on Jul 29, 2019 16:54:07 GMT -5
I can't even listen to the studio version after the piano sessions and I loved that but that recording is exactly how the song should be. The 'Once' bit in the instrumental doesn't even bother me with this version.
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 29, 2019 17:01:11 GMT -5
Quality-wise, I'd compare it to I'm Outta Time. A nice enough song, with competent song-writing, but nothing that I'm gonna be keeping in rotation outside of context of the album.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 29, 2019 17:36:39 GMT -5
I think even in the 90s when he had his strongest range, he quite alot of the time never fully realised the whole of that potential. The band were often too quick, substances played a part etc.
The reason people are talking about this live version as being one of his best performances ever is because he is utilising all of his potential that he currently has.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 29, 2019 17:37:55 GMT -5
This just made me think how great was 90s Oasis. I don't remember ever thinking about 90% of 90s songs in the way that we are thinking now about new songs: I don't like instrumental, I like intro but verses are not that good, I like verses but chorus is not that good etc. All those songs from 90s are so perfect, I can't remember analyzing choruses and verses, bridges, solos, intros, outros... They all flow so perfectly. There was some magic, all those Gallaghers songs from this century doesn't have that magic, they are sometimes perfectly constructed and all that, every element is there and it should be another classic but it's just not.
So no, Once is not up there with DLBIA, Wonderwall, CS, Slide Away, Live Forever, The Masterplan...not even up there with Don't Go Away, Cast No Shadow, Half The World Away, Talk Tonight, Stand By Me...
But it is definitely better than The Beat Goes On, Morning Son, Sunday Morning Call, Magic Pie, Where Did It All Go Wrong, She Is Love and all that shit.
I agree that I'm Outta Time is right comparasion, maybe Little By Little (I don't like that song but I can hear some quality there), Let There Be Love, maybe even Stop Crying Your Heart Out (that song was much bigger hit but I don't think it's that much better, if it's better at all)...
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Jul 29, 2019 17:44:02 GMT -5
Post by Binary Sunset on Jul 29, 2019 17:44:02 GMT -5
What do people think of the “clean the pool, send the kids to school” line? Is it the new “cops are taking over, everyone is in yoga” line? I don't find it that cringeworthy, personally. It makes sense to me. Obviously not the greatest lyric in the world, but it's fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 17:46:50 GMT -5
This just made me think how great was 90s Oasis. I don't remember ever thinking about 90% of 90s songs in the way that we are thinking now about new songs: I don't like instrumental, I like intro but verses are not that good, I like verses but chorus is not that good etc. All those songs from 90s are so perfect, I can't remember analyzing choruses and verses, bridges, solos, intros, outros... They all flow so perfectly. There was some magic, all those Gallaghers songs from this century doesn't have that magic, they are sometimes perfectly constructed and all that, every element is there and it should be another classic but it's just not. So no, Once is not up there with DLBIA, Wonderwall, CS, Slide Away, Live Forever, The Masterplan...not even up there with Don't Go Away, Cast No Shadow, Half The World Away, Talk Tonight, Stand By Me... But it is definitely better than The Beat Goes On, Morning Son, Sunday Morning Call, Magic Pie, Where Did It All Go Wrong, She Is Love and all that shit. I agree that I'm Outta Time is right comparasion, maybe Little By Little (I don't like that song but I can hear some quality there), Let There Be Love, maybe even Stop Crying Your Heart Out (that song was much bigger hit but I don't think it's that much better, if it's better at all)... That song does not belong in the same pile of shit as those others. Once is not even as good as it. One of the highlights of Oasis 2000's for me, even if there's a case to be made that the demo is better than the version that made the record. That tune, Gas Panic!, Go Let It Out, Roll It Over and others should have formed the basis of what Oasis MKII, in terms of sound, would continually search for. But...we got HC instead, and bad choices on the SOTSOG quality control front before that. Post that, i never really rated DBTT at all, and while the first half of DOYS shows some promise, in terms of difference in sound, we then get that awful second part (which, shock, could have been somewhat saved if stuff like The Boy With The Blues made the record) and the band was on it's last legs by then anyway.
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Jul 29, 2019 17:48:07 GMT -5
Post by Binary Sunset on Jul 29, 2019 17:48:07 GMT -5
Aren’t you Xennial being a 1981er? That’s the interesting thing. When I was growing up and later in high school our teachers always said we were Gen X. That millennials term is fairly new, last 4-5 years. 95% of my high school career was in the 90s. We had no cell phones. Dial up Internet. One computer per household. That is more in line with people growing up In 80s and early 90s than kids now who have had access to everything since birth. Fast internet. Computers everywhere. Cell phones everywhere. You has to work to know stuff when I was a kid and teen. Now you can read, watch or listen to literally anything instantly. The millennials term is not new, at this point it has been used pretty regularly for 15+ years, and is now being frequently and incorrectly used to describe the generation after it. What you are describing isn't a millennial. Generation Z (people born after the mid-90's)
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Jul 29, 2019 17:56:02 GMT -5
Post by oasisserbia on Jul 29, 2019 17:56:02 GMT -5
This just made me think how great was 90s Oasis. I don't remember ever thinking about 90% of 90s songs in the way that we are thinking now about new songs: I don't like instrumental, I like intro but verses are not that good, I like verses but chorus is not that good etc. All those songs from 90s are so perfect, I can't remember analyzing choruses and verses, bridges, solos, intros, outros... They all flow so perfectly. There was some magic, all those Gallaghers songs from this century doesn't have that magic, they are sometimes perfectly constructed and all that, every element is there and it should be another classic but it's just not. So no, Once is not up there with DLBIA, Wonderwall, CS, Slide Away, Live Forever, The Masterplan...not even up there with Don't Go Away, Cast No Shadow, Half The World Away, Talk Tonight, Stand By Me... But it is definitely better than The Beat Goes On, Morning Son, Sunday Morning Call, Magic Pie, Where Did It All Go Wrong, She Is Love and all that shit. I agree that I'm Outta Time is right comparasion, maybe Little By Little (I don't like that song but I can hear some quality there), Let There Be Love, maybe even Stop Crying Your Heart Out (that song was much bigger hit but I don't think it's that much better, if it's better at all)... That song does not belong in the same pile of shit as those others. Once is not even as good as it. One of the highlights of Oasis 2000's for me, even if there's a case to be made that the demo is better than the version that made the record. That tune, Gas Panic!, Go Let It Out, Roll It Over and others should have formed the basis of what Oasis MKII would have been. There is no one on this forum who will agree 100% with my list so I think that it's pointless to have this discussion. We can maybe come to general conclusion but we can never all agree 100% about every detail.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 18:00:01 GMT -5
That song does not belong in the same pile of shit as those others. Once is not even as good as it. One of the highlights of Oasis 2000's for me, even if there's a case to be made that the demo is better than the version that made the record. That tune, Gas Panic!, Go Let It Out, Roll It Over and others should have formed the basis of what Oasis MKII would have been. There is no one on this forum who will agree 100% with my list so I think that it's pointless to have this discussion. We can maybe come to general conclusion but we can never all agree 100% about every detail. Absolutely! Just talking about how i feel about that song in your list. And to be fair, i do agree with the rest of it, and also with the points you make on your last paragraph.
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Jul 29, 2019 19:31:39 GMT -5
Post by Snail Mail on Jul 29, 2019 19:31:39 GMT -5
Songbird, I'm Outta Time and I've All I Need are Liam's best written songs in my opinion. They're up there with some of Noel's best written post-SOTSOG songs. Once is great but the instrumental and lyrics are disappointing.
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Jul 29, 2019 20:29:27 GMT -5
Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 29, 2019 20:29:27 GMT -5
There was some preview video for DGSS, like 15 seconds of every song and I was crazy about The Beat Goes On, I thought that it was gonna be great song. I think that it was this part and I still think that part is good. Chorus is shit. To the gig in the sky And when I arrived The angels were singing a song Yeah you know the one Are you singing along? That is the best part of the song I feel, meaning the snippet teased us well. The Beat Goes On is no masterpiece, but I think it suffers from a few forum association issues. 1. It’s Beady Eye, so automatically, it gets labelled as a joke here, unless its called Four Letter Word, Sons of the Stage or Flick of the Finger 2. The was so much hype, that in the end when we were let down, some were plain disappointed, while others seem to be in the “Ew, don’t lump me in with that Beady Eye crowd” about the song. Again, it is nowhere near a masterpiece, but it seems to get unnecessarily shit upon. While BE deserved the criticism with a bunch of poor songs, I still feel some of their stuff doesn’t get the time of day because they are BE songs. I am of the camp that does not like Four Letter Word that much. I think the mastering sounds terrible and the vocals are nothing to brag about. It's just okay to me, not a highlight of the album.
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Post by space75gr on Jul 30, 2019 1:20:36 GMT -5
Once is already a classic Ermm, hold on. Live Forever, Wonderwall, DLBIA, maybe Champagne Supernova are classics. that's about it for Oasis. Once is a good song, classic is a tad much. "Once" is a classic. If it's not for you, that's ok.For me its a 10/10.CLASSIC. I suppose for some people classics stop in 1995...not for me. You cant compare everything to anything. Take it as it is. otherwise we ll start thinking...If Once was an Oasis song it would be a #1 (probably a #2) in the charts n with such a strong melody, great lyrics and great vocals by Liam people will consider it a classic....plus... if Bohemian Rapsody or Strawberry Fields Forever or Live Forever is a 10 should i compare every song with them? It doesnt work like this.
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