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Jul 27, 2019 5:07:13 GMT -5
Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2019 5:07:13 GMT -5
I think once the album is out it’ll be pretty obvious which ones Liam had the most input in. The three released so far he’d maybe tweaked at most. I’ve no problem with this, I’m absolutely stoked by how good they are!!! Still buzzing off the Glasto performance of The River, heard a clip from Shockwave with a promo link yesterday and thought fuck I forgot how good this is and Once has floored me. I still maintain, though, that Liam is an amazing songwriter. He is a good songwriter, but obviously did not write those songs, they have a very perfect structure, something Liam could never achieve. Thanx for sharing the details you got, very interesting, looking forward to finding which one he really had an input on.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 27, 2019 5:28:52 GMT -5
Am I the only one who hates the way he opens up the song. Yes
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Once.
Jul 27, 2019 6:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by Parka Flames on Jul 27, 2019 6:03:02 GMT -5
Fuckin ell. When did Liam learn to write lyrics like those? Edit: in a good way I mean. Why is anyone assuming this song was him? He's had as little to do with this as Wall Of Glass and FWIW. He's just turned up and changed a couple of words on all the songs. He's the sole credited writer in As It Was. Aren't there fairly strict rules about that?
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Jul 27, 2019 6:06:04 GMT -5
Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2019 6:06:04 GMT -5
Why is anyone assuming this song was him? He's had as little to do with this as Wall Of Glass and FWIW. He's just turned up and changed a couple of words on all the songs. He's the sole credited writer in As It Was. Aren't there fairly strict rules about that? igotflair mentionned it was a mistake. He probably did not write much of it.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 27, 2019 6:07:27 GMT -5
He's the sole credited writer in As It Was. Aren't there fairly strict rules about that? igotflair mentionned it was a mistake. He probably did not write much of it. I’ve never seen a man so on a crusade like you are about Liam and songwriting, Andy!
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Jul 27, 2019 6:09:53 GMT -5
Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2019 6:09:53 GMT -5
igotflair mentionned it was a mistake. He probably did not write much of it. I’ve never seen a man so on a crusade like you are about Liam and songwriting, Andy! I'm not on a crusade of anything to be honest. I find the way they are presenting songs a bit disturbing, playing on word to make people think he wrote them when he didn't... It's just completely dishonest to me, that's all.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 27, 2019 6:18:39 GMT -5
I’ve never seen a man so on a crusade like you are about Liam and songwriting, Andy! I'm not on a crusade of anything to be honest. I find the way they are presenting songs a bit disturbing, playing on word to make people think he wrote them when he didn't... It's just completely dishonest to me, that's all. He’s tended to be very honest about his input in songwriting. I’m sure he will be this time around when the interviews get going. To say anything else is to completely ignore the evidence therefore it’s fair to say you are on some sort of crusade
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Post by modxxii on Jul 27, 2019 6:29:55 GMT -5
I dont know if I can bear this who fuckin has written what.
He' s not Bob Dylan. Deal with it.
Anyway, he is on the credits. That's the only truth. Not the speculations without evidence.
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Jul 27, 2019 6:31:41 GMT -5
Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2019 6:31:41 GMT -5
He’s tended to be very honest about his input in songwriting. Has he ? he sure has not. the confusion about Once shows that people dont really know. Caring is another matter. The fact that they simply added his name to every song credits on the new record says otherwise, crusade or not. What input did he have in WAG ? in For What It's Worth ? We dont frickin know. What's the songwriting process ? We dont frickin know. Do they sit for hours in a room to come up with the melody ? We dont frickin know. I hope he will be honest about it, since many people on here and elsewhere (facebook etc) think he wrote Once and many other that he did not have (apparently) input in. It's voluntarily a bit vague. Feel free to ignore the facts.
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Once.
Jul 27, 2019 6:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by rollagher on Jul 27, 2019 6:36:21 GMT -5
Ok,let's speculate about songwriting: For me Once got a typical Liam touch not only with lyrics. It reminds me of Morning Son a bit,on the other hand it got something of Paper Crown too. In the documentrary he was recording in London. All Liam songs on As you were were recorded in London. I assume it's a hybrid, starting with a typical Liam-strumming-demo and than get'sa touch Wyatt,espacially the middle eight. By the way, I don't think the end credits of As it Was were wrong.
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Jul 27, 2019 6:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 27, 2019 6:59:13 GMT -5
Why is anyone assuming this song was him? He's had as little to do with this as Wall Of Glass and FWIW. He's just turned up and changed a couple of words on all the songs. He's the sole credited writer in As It Was. Aren't there fairly strict rules about that? Tbh i dont think they knew wtf they were doing with that whole film. Im sure wyatt and kursten will allow for the fuck up but probably wont be too happy about it. Its definitely their tune with Liam adding whatever to it. The song choices in the film all seemed to try to be songs Liam had written himself even if they add extra writers. Like Morning Son etc.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 27, 2019 7:01:11 GMT -5
He’s tended to be very honest about his input in songwriting. Has he ? he sure has not. the confusion about Once shows that people dont really know. Caring is another matter. The fact that they simply added his name to every song credits on the new record says otherwise, crusade or not. What input did he have in WAG ? in For What It's Worth ? We dont frickin know. What's the songwriting process ? We dont frickin know. Do they sit for hours in a room to come up with the melody ? We dont frickin know. I hope he will be honest about it, since many people on here and elsewhere (facebook etc) think he wrote Once and many other that he did not have (apparently) input in. It's voluntarily a bit vague. Feel free to ignore the facts. . Pretty sure he said FWIW was 99% not him he just had small input in the lyrics. WOG I thought he had a little bit of the riff or something like that but I don’t think he ever suggested he wrote it. You haven’t been paying attention.
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Once.
Jul 27, 2019 7:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by underawaterfall on Jul 27, 2019 7:01:12 GMT -5
He’s tended to be very honest about his input in songwriting. Has he ? he sure has not. the confusion about Once shows that people dont really know. Caring is another matter. The fact that they simply added his name to every song credits on the new record says otherwise, crusade or not. What input did he have in WAG ? in For What It's Worth ? We dont frickin know. What's the songwriting process ? We dont frickin know. Do they sit for hours in a room to come up with the melody ? We dont frickin know. I hope he will be honest about it, since many people on here and elsewhere (facebook etc) think he wrote Once and many other that he did not have (apparently) input in. It's voluntarily a bit vague. Feel free to ignore the facts. The confusion regarding once has come from the end credits from as it was, which Liam would not have been involved in, so you can’t really blame him for breeding confusion.
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Jul 27, 2019 7:02:47 GMT -5
Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2019 7:02:47 GMT -5
The last few replies validate my point, we dont fuckin know. But we would like to know. I could read for hours how the Beatles wrote and recorded, i'd love to have Liam telling that. Rant over.
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Jul 27, 2019 7:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 27, 2019 7:04:51 GMT -5
The last few replies validate my point, we dont fuckin know. But we would like to know. I could read for hours how the Beatles wrote and recorded, i'd love to have Liam telling that. Rant over. They don’t validate it at all, go and do some reading. You’re talking shite.
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Once.
Jul 27, 2019 7:06:43 GMT -5
Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2019 7:06:43 GMT -5
The last few replies validate my point, we dont fuckin know. But we would like to know. I could read for hours how the Beatles wrote and recorded, i'd love to have Liam telling that. Rant over. They don’t validate it at all, go and do some reading. You’re talking shite. You're so blinded by love. It's kinda sweet.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 27, 2019 7:12:09 GMT -5
They don’t validate it at all, go and do some reading. You’re talking shite. You're so blinded by love. It's kinda sweet. The album cycle hasn’t even begun where he is talking about the new songs in-depth. He did during the last one and FWIW is an example of that. You’re a disingenuous troll.
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Jul 27, 2019 7:27:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 7:27:26 GMT -5
He's the sole credited writer in As It Was. Aren't there fairly strict rules about that? Tbh i dont think they knew wtf they were doing with that whole film. Im sure wyatt and kursten will allow for the fuck up but probably wont be too happy about it. Its definitely their tune with Liam adding whatever to it.
The song choices in the film all seemed to try to be songs Liam had written himself even if they add extra writers. Like Morning Son etc. Kurstin is not credited on Once, is he? There seems to be a lot of confusion going on. The youtube video seems to have a complete credit listing. Everyone who played is listed, and writers are Wyatt and Liam.
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Post by lg on Jul 27, 2019 7:29:50 GMT -5
He’s tended to be very honest about his input in songwriting. What input did he have in WAG ? in For What It's Worth ? We dont frickin know. What's the songwriting process ? We dont frickin know. Do they sit for hours in a room to come up with the melody ? We dont frickin know. What are you talking about then?we shouldn't talk about things we don't know but you enjoy making constantly bad comments on liam He's been so humble about his songwriting skills even though he wrote beautiful songs such as I've all i need
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Post by daviesh on Jul 27, 2019 8:40:21 GMT -5
The last few replies validate my point, we dont fuckin know. But we would like to know. I could read for hours how the Beatles wrote and recorded, i'd love to have Liam telling that. Rant over. Rant over? Great I'll hold you to that. I'm so bored of hearing you moan on about the same issue day after day, month after month. Try and enjoy the music.
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Jul 27, 2019 8:43:17 GMT -5
Post by fartpanic on Jul 27, 2019 8:43:17 GMT -5
I think once the album is out it’ll be pretty obvious which ones Liam had the most input in. The three released so far he’d maybe tweaked at most. I’ve no problem with this, I’m absolutely stoked by how good they are!!! Still buzzing off the Glasto performance of The River, heard a clip from Shockwave with a promo link yesterday and thought fuck I forgot how good this is and Once has floored me. I still maintain, though, that Liam is an amazing songwriter. So there is songs that were Liam songs that got help from others? Because to me by the sounds of it he's done nothing for this album.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 27, 2019 8:47:14 GMT -5
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Post by eva on Jul 27, 2019 10:26:59 GMT -5
To the people moaning about the songwriting credit... No one is forcing you to listen to the song, so why don't you let people who like it, enjoy it? If it bothers you that much go listen to something else. repeating the same thing over and over is not going to make a difference, it's just fucking annoying.so why don't we move on please Thanks
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Post by welshylad on Jul 27, 2019 10:45:58 GMT -5
Who actually gives a fuck if he wrote them or not? He didn't write any of the songs that got us all into Oasis, there wasn't a problem there. So why is there now? It's exactly the same, someone else seems to be writing them, he sings them. End of
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Post by martinpaul on Jul 27, 2019 11:08:56 GMT -5
You either write the song 100% on your own or you get some help. That help may be from a co-writer, may be from a producer - where it comes from is irrelevant, if someone somewhere in the process helps or offers an idea which changes the song they have helped.
It's as simple as that. Noel gets help, Weller gets help (cue idiots trying to make out the help Noel gets doesn't count)
Liam has described himself as a singer with no interest in songwriting, then a singer with the odd song, now a singer who can write songs that need help, or he helps with other peoples songs. He's on record saying he isn't prolific enough to write an album.
Yet every fucking song released you get the same fucking bellends crying "Mum, it's not fair, he didn't write every note, every syllable - I'm telling on you etc..etc…"
If the song isn't very good Liam must have wrote it, if it gets a good reaction he can't have possible wrote it.
Bore off and give it a rest
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