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Post by blurareshit on Apr 24, 2019 2:21:17 GMT -5
I'm just curious, if Oasis were to reunite tomorrow, what would their American leg of the tour look like? Or hell, anywhere else in the world for that matter?
Obviously, in the UK/Ireland, there would be a few massive, multi-night outdoor shows surely (Heaton Park first probably, then Slane, Knebworth even?, or some other equivalent giant fields that can easily hold 80,000 - 100,000+; then Glasto/T in the Park headlining; then probably a multi-night stadium tour in cities up and down the country, etc.)
Outside of that, I'm not so sure. I want to say there would be a massive demand but I'm not quite sure. Oasis' stock in America has always been incredibly unpredictable (in my neck of the woods, they went from a 1,200 club around the time after "Live Forever" was first breaking to a arena expecting ~10,000 fans before cancellation in September 1996 to then a 4,500 theatre for Be Here now to a 2,600 capacity venue by SOTSOG).
Then there was a the resurgence towards the end of their career in some areas (with their 2005 Boston show being their biggest ever single night US showing at 20,000 attendees at the Tweeter Center), though many of these dates were somewhere between 5,000 - 9,000 people. Chalk it up to people getting nostalgic for their high school and college days from a decade ago perhaps, or the little, albeit actual, alt rock airplay for "Lyla" and moderate hit of "Shock" three years later, but there was a definite uptick in venue sizes and ticket sales from the rock bottom of 2000 - 2002. Even album sales jumped a little bit from '02 to '05 despite falling CD sales and rise of the single song downloads or illegal downloading.
But back to this the present...
It's just curious to me because I have no earthly idea what has changed for Oasis in the past 10 years stateside, if the old fans are still madferit, if younger ones have jumped on board thanks to Wonderwall's continued popularity/meme status, renewed coverage by the music press, etc.
Even then it's hard to tell what kind an audience to expect in America. Despite "nostalgia" for the music and movies and fashion of both the 80s and 90s being "in" with the under 30 crowd these past few years, the Smashing Pumpkins (a band who had millions upon millions of fans at their peak and whose lasting legacy in American pop culture/public consciousness far outweighs that of Oasis) struggled to sell out their reunion arena tour. All those older fans from back in the day weren't really biting nor were more casual, younger ones who had been continually exposed to their music in later years. Promoters were giving away tickets for near nothing at many venues. The Pumpkins' summer tour of smaller to mid-sized ampitheatres with Noel feat. AFI also doesn't seem to close to selling out in the slightest. This just shows you how fickle the American market continues to be in a lot of ways, just like it was 15, 20 years ago.
Noel on his solo tours has been playing many of the same theaters Oasis were frequenting around the turn of the millennium, mostly 1,000 - 2,500 capacity venues (though NYC and LA, the venues have been closer to the 5 and 6,000 mark and longtime Oasis strongholds like Chicago tend to skew slightly larger too). With Liam's solo tour, the venues were around the same, if not slightly larger, capacity (particularly when co-touring with Richard Ashcroft). Though I think a lot of this was just around the hype of him "going solo" for the first time.
Anyway, I think, in the event of an eventual reunion, what would be guaranteed: Last two times they did New York City, they drew in a 15,000 crowd, so I would think they're still big enough to do an outdoor summer show at Forest Hills Stadium out in Queens (14,000). Though I would hope for two total sell out (20k) nights at Madison Square. I mean, Blur and the Roses, despite being fairly little known to most in the States prior to their breakup, finally played MSG at 15,000/80% - the back quadrant of the arena was blocked off - to a crowd of mostly British Expats in 2015 and 2016. Surely this would bode well for Oasis, no?
LA too, I could see probably at least 1 night, POSSIBLY 2 nights, at Hollywood Bowl totally sold out (they did 10,000 in '05 I believe, but it seats 17,000).
The rest of the country is a bit more iffy: Chicago has always had a soft spot for the band and they played half-full capacity, but high energy nights at Rosemont in '96, '98, and '08. I'm sure there's a few East Coast cities where Oasis historically had big fanbases back in the 90s or continued to play decent sized gigs in the latter years should be on the list too. Of the top of my head, Boston of course (could they sell out the Tweeter Center again, you think?) and Philadelphia I think as well. But frankly, I just don't know what has happened in the past 10 years RE: the band, their legacy, and this residual fanbase.
The rest I'm not so sure about. Would they be big enough to sell out, say, Red Rocks or Meriweather Post Pavillion? I'm not sure. And sadly, I'm not confident Oasis is that well known or liked anymore, if they were to begin with, in the South or the Midwest to fill even smaller amphitheatres or arenas. What do you all think?
It's just that I wouldn't want them to pull a "Blur" and play gigs in NYC and LA and ignore the rest of the country because they think there's not enough fan demand there - or because it would hurt their ego to play smaller venues or half-empty medium sized ones... I guess I would want Oasis to finally get their due in America too. Not that it will ever be like it is in the UK, but for me to get to see them together again in a crowd of fellow fans, both new and old, would be amazing.
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Post by coconutstall on Apr 24, 2019 4:22:11 GMT -5
Depends what they want to go for, I think in Australia they would be best served going to Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Perth and play all the 20-25k indoor venues. But they could stretch to playing stadiums and have 50k venues but I think it would need to be advertised really well to sell them all out tbh. I'd rather 25k fans who know what its about then 50k where a lot aren't really that into it at cheaper prices.
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Post by thomuk2006 on Apr 24, 2019 4:52:09 GMT -5
I would guess one big show in Scandinavia, probably Parken Copenhagen... 50 000....pretty easy to get to from Oslo, Gothenburg, Malmö and even Hamburg. I think it would sell out if it was the only date in Scandinavia and had some big support bands.
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 24, 2019 5:06:45 GMT -5
Seeing Oasis in Johan Cruijf Arena? Hell, no!!!
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Post by Flashbax on Apr 24, 2019 15:01:32 GMT -5
Seeing Oasis in Johan Cruijf Arena? Hell, no!!! Have you ever been to a concert in the Johan Cruijf Arena? I only went to U2 in 2009 (I was 10 years old) but I don't remember much of it. People always say that the sound is very bad there. Oasis should play at Malieveld, Coldplay was great there.
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Post by oasismashups on Apr 24, 2019 16:08:50 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 25, 2019 4:02:13 GMT -5
Seeing Oasis in Johan Cruijf Arena? Hell, no!!! Have you ever been to a concert in the Johan Cruijf Arena? I only went to U2 in 2009 (I was 10 years old) but I don't remember much of it. People always say that the sound is very bad there. Oasis should play at Malieveld, Coldplay was great there. Yes, once. I've seen Noel supporting U2 2 years ago. I only went to see Noel. I didn't mind the sound there. I just don't like a stadium gig. Een Ziggo Dome is way too large for me.
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