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Post by carlober on Aug 10, 2019 17:47:13 GMT -5
My opinion is that everyone should stop looking for trivial things to be annoyed about. It's not a dig at Rolo of course... it's a problem in almost every thread on here (or in the world, for what matters). The standing/bowing/waving thing could be just a way to give everyone on stage their deserved cheering and round of applause, and that's especially true for people who stay in the background (the brass section, backing vocalists etc). Most of the fans at gigs are there for Noel Gallagher only and don't even care about the rest of the band. There's nothing wrong with that and nothing to cringe about in my book, plenty of acts do the same and it's never bothered me. |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 10, 2019 18:10:57 GMT -5
I'm curious, does anyone really think that at this moment in time Noel should be *opening* for the Smashing Pumpkins? I assumed when this was announced that it would be co-headlining and that they would go so far as to alternate who played first and last in order for it to seem like it was really co-headlining. How long has it been since the SP did anything that was even the least bit interesting? Really surprised that someone with Noel's ego would be willing to do this. Maybe he just sees it as a good excuse to not have to play a long set every night. noel could've learned a thing or 2 had he stayed for the pumpkins. it was almost embarrassing how much better they were. the crowd started buzzing on the opening chords of wonderwall but overall his set was pedestrian. he should be playing mostly oasis songs, in my opinion. Maybe it's just what you prefer but Noel is far better live now than he's ever been (with NGHFB). There's only so much you can do with an hour and he's not splitting his set with new stuff and then some classics. I'm not in America or American. It's totally different here in the UK but if it were the other way round (Pumpkins on before NG here - which tbh would probably be the case - people may well say similar things). Of all the things to call the current NGHFB line up out on, 'stepping up' their live performances seems a weird one. I get setlist choice, crowd interaction (not that that's ever been Noel's thing - no stagediving is it) etc, but as a band they're incredibly tight and slick. |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 10, 2019 18:15:49 GMT -5
I know you have been in a band. That was my point. For me this shows they feel united as a team, and I am sure you will agree that is very important for the quality of the output of the band Not sure what this means. I’ve see hundreds of concerts where bands celebrate and thank the fans in a variety of ways. This one was so inoffensive, very innocent. Oh I thought you meant you've been in one. It is important but I just used to thank the fans for coming out, give them a quick clap and walk off. It really isn't something to moan about, I agree. It's something that has always annoyed me when it really shouldn't, but it does, just feel it's a bit over the top that's all, especially for a support slot. Never did it before though did he. Think that's the whole point. He may well only do it for these tours. May just go back to stropping off like he did before come the next album cycle. That's why I'm enjoying Noel's work so much atm. It's going in stages. I don't like the same stuff over and over so if there's something within the general boundaries of what I like/my favourite artists/bands are pushing themselves, then I'm all for it. Noel did the quick clap and plectrum into crowd thing for 20 years. I can take 2-3 years of some actual thanks towards the fans for being there (which after all, isn't what me and you and a few others had a debate about the other night?) and a bit of time for the band to get their plaudits. |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 10, 2019 18:17:58 GMT -5
My opinion is that everyone should stop looking for trivial things to be annoyed about. It's not a dig at Rolo of course... it's a problem in almost every thread on here (or in the world, for what matters). The standing/bowing/waving thing could be just a way to give everyone on stage their deserved cheering and round of applause, and that's especially true for people who stay in the background (the brass section, backing vocalists etc). Most of the fans at gigs are there for Noel Gallagher only and don't even care about the rest of the band. There's nothing wrong with that and nothing to cringe about in my book, plenty of acts do the same and it's never bothered me. Yeh, and the band are all great and deserve their rounds of applause or whatever. He used to introduce his members one by one. He did on his arena tour last year. But given these frestival/in this case opening sets now are all so quick and stuff, he doesn't bother. But he does introduce them as 'the High Flying Birds' now. For all the egotistical comments from Noel and stuff, I do think he genuinely loves this band at the moment. He's clearly extremely happy with who is in it and what they're producing on stage and off. It's good to see, in my book. |
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Post by Rolo on Aug 10, 2019 19:57:41 GMT -5
It's not a massive dig aimed at Noel, I've never liked bands that do it, just a personal thing.
It was just a flippant comment because I'd seen a picture of them doing it today somewhere, I'm really not all that bothered by it and didn't expect to get a backlash of people telling me why it's wrong of me to think it.
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Post by nataliemckinney on Aug 10, 2019 22:23:45 GMT -5
No offense but coming from someone who has been in a band, can't understand this I've also been in a band. A quick clap before walking off stage is enough. Fair enough if it's a big homecoming gig or something but to do it after every gig? Just find it a bit weird. Yeah, I agree Rolo. I feel like it's great for a play, but not Noel-esque. |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 11, 2019 3:05:00 GMT -5
It's not a massive dig aimed at Noel, I've never liked bands that do it, just a personal thing. It was just a flippant comment because I'd seen a picture of them doing it today somewhere, I'm really not all that bothered by it and didn't expect to get a backlash of people telling me why it's wrong of me to think it. If you put an opinion on a forum people are allowed to talk about it and offer a counter argument? I don't think you're wrong to think whatever you think. I just wanted to offer my opinion on it. Apologies if that didn't come across in my post. |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 11, 2019 3:06:37 GMT -5
I've also been in a band. A quick clap before walking off stage is enough. Fair enough if it's a big homecoming gig or something but to do it after every gig? Just find it a bit weird. Yeah, I agree Rolo. I feel like it's great for a play, but not Noel-esqueI think that's the point. He's doing things differently. Doesn't mean you have to like it, totally get that, or not think it's cringey. But he's just doing things differently to how he did before. |
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Post by andymorris on Aug 11, 2019 3:42:31 GMT -5
It's not a massive dig aimed at Noel, I've never liked bands that do it, just a personal thing. It was just a flippant comment because I'd seen a picture of them doing it today somewhere, I'm really not all that bothered by it and didn't expect to get a backlash of people telling me why it's wrong of me to think it. If you put an opinion on a forum people are allowed to talk about it and offer a counter argument? I don't think you're wrong to think whatever you think. I just wanted to offer my opinion on it. Apologies if that didn't come across in my post. Well no according to Liam's hardcore fans and some of the mods here, you cant offer a counter argument. It's either agree or go to hell. Some of us have been told to shut up a lot on this forum for raising concerns about Liam's new career or his disturbing behavior, when it was just an opinion. So i say, Rolo, welcome to the club. You know how it feels like now. iIt's not very nice at first but you'll get used to it. Cheers. As for the "tension" around here, It's just internet tension. i've been to a few Oasis forums meet up back in the day, and believe me, the worst enemies were all having a laugh together within a few minutes. It's all for fun, and we should relax and accept other people's opinions as they are. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 11, 2019 3:54:30 GMT -5
If you put an opinion on a forum people are allowed to talk about it and offer a counter argument? I don't think you're wrong to think whatever you think. I just wanted to offer my opinion on it. Apologies if that didn't come across in my post. Well no according to Liam's hardcore fans and some of the mods here, you cant offer a counter argument. It's either agree or go to hell. Some of us have been told to shut up a lot on this forum for raising concerns about Liam's new career or his disturbing behavior, when it was just an opinion. So i say, Rolo, welcome to the club. You know how it feels like now. iIt's not very nice at first but you'll get used to it. Cheers. As for the "tension" around here, It's just internet tension. i've been to a few Oasis forums meet up back in the day, and believe me, the worst enemies were all having a laugh together within a few minutes. It's all for fun, and we should relax and accept other people's opinions as they are. If you're not happy with the way we work as mods on here, you're free to leave. I'm not saying this only to you, but to some certain other members too. Whenever we step in many of so called Noel vs Liam "arguments" on this forum as mods to this place keeps clean, there's always some certain members who jump on us like "we're not allowed to post our opinion", "mods forbid us to discuss" etc etc. Some people are never happy and always has something to complain about everything and nothing and it's not only for regulars on Noel board, but on Liam board as well. Why can't we just enjoy music? Cheers. |
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Post by mossy on Aug 11, 2019 4:17:05 GMT -5
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Post by Rolo on Aug 11, 2019 5:08:22 GMT -5
It's not a massive dig aimed at Noel, I've never liked bands that do it, just a personal thing. It was just a flippant comment because I'd seen a picture of them doing it today somewhere, I'm really not all that bothered by it and didn't expect to get a backlash of people telling me why it's wrong of me to think it. If you put an opinion on a forum people are allowed to talk about it and offer a counter argument? I don't think you're wrong to think whatever you think. I just wanted to offer my opinion on it. Apologies if that didn't come across in my post. Course you are but it seems a bit of a waste of time arguing about this specific subject. |
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Post by Rolo on Aug 11, 2019 5:15:17 GMT -5
If you put an opinion on a forum people are allowed to talk about it and offer a counter argument? I don't think you're wrong to think whatever you think. I just wanted to offer my opinion on it. Apologies if that didn't come across in my post. Well no according to Liam's hardcore fans and some of the mods here, you cant offer a counter argument. It's either agree or go to hell. Some of us have been told to shut up a lot on this forum for raising concerns about Liam's new career or his disturbing behavior, when it was just an opinion. So i say, Rolo, welcome to the club. You know how it feels like now. iIt's not very nice at first but you'll get used to it. Cheers. As for the "tension" around here, It's just internet tension. i've been to a few Oasis forums meet up back in the day, and believe me, the worst enemies were all having a laugh together within a few minutes. It's all for fun, and we should relax and accept other people's opinions as they are. That's a load of bollocks. The only reason people would tell you to shut up is that you make the same point over and over and over again, we know you feel that way now so when you repeat it for the 67th time it gets a little boring, we don't need to hear it anymore. |
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Post by Noel's Record Machine on Aug 11, 2019 8:25:16 GMT -5
Well no according to Liam's hardcore fans and some of the mods here, you cant offer a counter argument. It's either agree or go to hell. Some of us have been told to shut up a lot on this forum for raising concerns about Liam's new career or his disturbing behavior, when it was just an opinion. So i say, Rolo, welcome to the club. You know how it feels like now. iIt's not very nice at first but you'll get used to it. Cheers. As for the "tension" around here, It's just internet tension. i've been to a few Oasis forums meet up back in the day, and believe me, the worst enemies were all having a laugh together within a few minutes. It's all for fun, and we should relax and accept other people's opinions as they are. If you're not happy with the way we work as mods on here, you're free to leave. I'm not saying this only to you, but to some certain other members too. Whenever we step in many of so called Noel vs Liam "arguments" on this forum as mods to this place keeps clean, there's always some certain members who jump on us like "we're not allowed to post our opinion", "mods forbid us to discuss" etc etc. Some people are never happy and always has something to complain about everything and nothing and it's not only for regulars on Noel board, but on Liam board as well. Why can't we just enjoy music? Cheers. I’ve been on the forum for 8 years but I rarely post so forgive me if this is out of place. Just like any other forum for any band/team etc people will always disagree. These same type of arguments happen everywhere. There’s not too many of us big picture who love Liam and Noel and Oasis. We should just be lucky to have like minded people to talk to. I haven’t known one fan in my life in Winnipeg in person. Only the ‘hey they sung wonderwall right?’ people. People in every Oasis/Liam/Noel forum are splitting between Liam and old Noel and New Noel etc. We should just enjoy all of the music we’re lucky to have, they both could have retired already and we’d just be reminiscing about the old days. Anyways let’s just respect our different opinions. It would be pretty boring if we all thought the exact same thing, wouldn’t it? |
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Post by matt on Aug 11, 2019 8:35:42 GMT -5
Christ, Noel’s band sounds fantastic live with the new tunes. And yet here we are two pages in moaning and arguing about bowing?
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Post by andymorris on Aug 11, 2019 8:48:01 GMT -5
If you're not happy with the way we work as mods on here, you're free to leave. I'm not saying this only to you, but to some certain other members too. Whenever we step in many of so called Noel vs Liam "arguments" on this forum as mods to this place keeps clean, there's always some certain members who jump on us like "we're not allowed to post our opinion", "mods forbid us to discuss" etc etc. Some people are never happy and always has something to complain about everything and nothing and it's not only for regulars on Noel board, but on Liam board as well. Why can't we just enjoy music? Cheers. I’ve been on the forum for 8 years but I rarely post so forgive me if this is out of place. Just like any other forum for any band/team etc people will always disagree. These same type of arguments happen everywhere. There’s not too many of us big picture who love Liam and Noel and Oasis. We should just be lucky to have like minded people to talk to. I haven’t known one fan in my life in Winnipeg in person. Only the ‘hey they sung wonderwall right?’ people. People in every Oasis/Liam/Noel forum are splitting between Liam and old Noel and New Noel etc. We should just enjoy all of the music we’re lucky to have, they both could have retired already and we’d just be reminiscing about the old days. Anyways let’s just respect our different opinions. It would be pretty boring if we all thought the exact same thing, wouldn’t it? Thank you. I disagree with a lot of people on here, and that's pretty normal, but would never moan about someone's posting an opinion. Just pass, disagree and say why or block. But to tell someone to shut up or "stop moaning" or leave is just plain wrong and weird. It's like someone's else opinion does not matter. When every opinion matter. |
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Post by eva on Aug 11, 2019 10:43:26 GMT -5
nice way of twisting our words
we've been here many times. we never said "you can't post your opinion", rather "let's move on from this argument which is going nowehere and it's been on for 3 pages"
also, like others mentioned -and not just mods- repeating the same thing over and over turns tedious. it's like forcing your opinion on everybody else
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Post by coolprophet on Aug 11, 2019 11:10:13 GMT -5
Whats going on here people? Its a Sunday... chill the fuck out!
Get it to be a bit mad over Noel recently and even me as a huge Noel fan and fanatic since ever getting pissed about some of his stuff but whats the point about the current tour and his behaviour before leaving the stage? Nothing really to freak out
Yeah, setlist is a bit meh as its pretty much his latest stuff + Wonderwall & DLBIA. But not really surprised he choose to fully focus on that material - even if I would not enjoy it that much apart from BSD and TITP. Its his jam at the moment and we wont be able to change it (I think haha)
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Post by theone on Aug 11, 2019 12:48:55 GMT -5
Christ, Noel’s band sounds fantastic live with the new tunes. And yet here we are two pages in moaning and arguing about bowing? Amazing isn't! 😬 |
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Post by mkoasis on Aug 11, 2019 17:36:35 GMT -5
I haven’t known one fan in my life in Winnipeg in person. Only the ‘hey they sung wonderwall right?’ people. Now you do  (But I definitely echo your sentiments) |
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Post by drummert5 on Aug 11, 2019 17:37:17 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking Noel’s solo in This In The Place is his first live lead guitar on a post-Chasing Yesterday track?
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Post by oasis6 on Aug 11, 2019 19:11:34 GMT -5
I decided to skip this one coming up on Tuesday, mainly because it wasn't Noel headlining. I like the Pumpkins overall but I'm not a major concert-goer, so I was fine to miss this (plus price and how far away I'd be turned me off).
But I will also say, this setlist isn't for me. Well, of course it's for me, it's Noel Gallagher, and I like everything he puts out. But I've seen him a lot recently and while the girls now make his band much more interesting... Idk, I almost have Noel fatigue to the point where I'd want a certain setlist.
The front half of WBTM isn't my half. I like the back half, specifically B&WS, ILITL and TMWBTM a lot more. BSD and TITP would be great to see as I have not seen them. Then Wonderwall and DLBIA. I understand he has a huge portion of the crowd who only knows those songs to please... But I'm sick of those 2. SCYHO would have been awesome, never seen it live. And I still don't understand why he doesn't close with his own song....
Basically I'm craving more obscure Oasis (GLIO on the last tour was awesome)and a mix of all NGHFB albums, not just the front half of WBTM. I feel better about skipping this as I had my regrets, as blasphemous as this even sounds to me.
The band still sounds awesome, I'm just picky with my personal tastes at this point.
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Post by magicman on Aug 11, 2019 22:36:33 GMT -5
looks like noel added little by little to the setlist after the camden show... cheers noel
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 12, 2019 6:07:35 GMT -5
looks like noel added little by little to the setlist after the camden show... cheers noel His Camden set was about 56 min. Guess he realized he could sneak another song in. Shame he didn’t do it sooner! |
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Post by didthedamage on Aug 12, 2019 6:17:12 GMT -5
Anyone know what the merch table is like on this tour?
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