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Post by The Escapist on Feb 6, 2019 10:09:30 GMT -5
Lana Del Rey, the alias of Lizzy Grant, is like a 1950's upper-class version of Slim Shady - that is, a character played by the artist, to express themselves using a lifestyle that the writer hasn't experienced. Unlike Marshall, Lizzy creates a mish-mash of various vintage American aesthetics. In her music you'll hear about classic cars, teenage starlets, casual drug use, James Dean, Norman Rockwell, jazz collections, and - infamously - pepsi cola. Underneath all that, though, is genuinely strong song-writing with more melancholic bridges and intros than you can shake an art-deco stick at. If you don't like this song even a little bit, you probably won't like Lana. And if you don't like this song even a little bit, you're also probably soulless. All the hallmarks are here - the yearning, the summer references, the strings, the drama. I'm gonna tag matt and mystoryisgory for this one, I reckon they'll both enjoy it's ubiquitous emotional appeal. A staple, the first song off her first album. It's essentially a standard doomed-love ballad, but it's sung with such sincerity that the melodrama works, and all those swelling strings and swaying hip-hop beats just add to the anachronistic beauty. I'm gonna tentatively tag Mean Mrs. Mustard for this one, and hope her inner goth is brought back out by the unapologetic melodrama. An ironic song written to the people who apparently dismissed her at early festival. There's some nice hazy guitar, and the chorus drips with sarcasm and catchiness. It was supposed to guest Lou Reed on the hook, but he sadly passed before recording his vocals - I'm gonna tag theyknowwhatimean and @driver7 for this one, and hope they'll enjoy it's frequent 1970's references. This song is here to show Lana at her most Lana. Almost garishly OTT, filled with fourth of July fireworks, pleads for diamonds and sex and money, reminiscing about drink-driving and drug-use. As she puts it in the song it's a love story for the new age, blurring the line between real and the fake. I reckon The Crimson Rambler and crisppacket might dig the unique, slightly weird vibe to it. And this, the lead single from her upcoming album (out in March!) is to show her at her most Lizzy Grant. The usual big strings and beats and drama is all stripped-back here for a more personal and almost solo-Lennonish vibe. The songwriting is great, and I think mono might enjoy it's classic feel. My personal favourite song from my personal favourite album! Like most of Honeymoon, the vibe of this song is summer-gothic, soaked both in sunshine and doom. Think of the scenes in Sicily from the first Godfather, that kind of thing. I'm gonna tag eva , but I think everyone should give it a go. The song that made me like her. I love the dreamy, orange-sunset feeling, the fantastic beat, the catchy and lazy chorus, the ASAP ROCKY verse, and that operatic sample at the end is just pure gothic joy. Lana's music is sometimes meme-d as being for sad twerking, and this song sums that vibe up. Sexy, sad, and sultry. I think mystoryisgory will like it, although I recommend it for anyone who likes looking brooding and sexy in July. Speaking of which! The penultimate track has to be an anthem, and that's what this is - the one everyone will sing along to at every gig. It's Lana through and through, and catchy as hell. It's also the only hit pop song I can thing of that starts with the bridge, so there's that. Tagging mossy and funhouse as I'm not sure if they'll like Lana at all, but everyone has to start somewhere. The last song I've picked is the one I think Live4Ever will dig the most. This is a woozy, low-key, ten-minute summer song from her upcoming album with no garish melodrama, no characters, no satire - nothing but ten minutes of perfume-sweet melodies lazily twining in and out of each other. Tagging lubeck , carlober , funhouse , mimmihopps , and theyknowwhatimean for this. Get on it. Her new album is out next month, and it's called Norman Fucking Rockwell. Get hyped. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 6, 2019 11:52:11 GMT -5
Lana Del Rey, the alias of Lizzy Grant, is like a 1950's upper-class version of Slim Shady - that is, a character played by the artist, to express themselves using a lifestyle that the writer hasn't experienced. But whereas Marshall talked about rape, serial killing, and drugs, Lizzy creates a mish-mash of various vintage American aesthetics. Across her discography you'll hear about classic cars, teenage starlets, sugar-daddies, casual drug use, James Dean, Norman Rockwell, jazz collections, and - infamously - pepsi cola. Underneath all that, though, is genuinely strong song-writing with more melancholic bridges and intros than you can shake your 1952 art-deco stick at. If you don't like this song even a little bit, you probably won't like Lana. And if you don't like this song even a little bit, you're also probably soulless. All the hallmarks are here - the yearning, the summer references, the strings, the drama. I'm gonna tag matt and mystoryisgory for this one, I reckon they'll both enjoy it's ubiquitous emotional appeal. A staple, the first song off her first album. It's essentially a standard doomed-love ballad, but it's sung with such sincerity that the melodrama works, and all those swelling strings and swaying hip-hop beats just add to the anachronistic beauty. I'm gonna tentatively tag Mean Mrs. Mustard for this one, and hope her inner goth is brought back out by the unapologetic melodrama. An ironic song written to the people who apparently dismissed her at early festival. There's some nice hazy guitar, and the chorus drips with sarcasm and catchiness. It was supposed to guest Lou Reed on the hook, but he sadly passed before recording his vocals - I'm gonna tag theyknowwhatimean and @driver7 for this one, and hope they'll enjoy it's frequent 1970's references. This song is here to show Lana at her most Lana. Almost garishly OTT, filled with fourth of July fireworks, pleads for diamonds and sex and money, reminiscing about drink-driving and drug-use. As she puts it in the song it's a love story for the new age, blurring the line between real and the fake. I reckon The Crimson Rambler and crisppacket might dig the unique, slightly weird vibe to it. And this, the lead single from her upcoming album (out in March!) is to show her at her most Lizzy Grant. The usual big strings and beats and drama is all stripped-back here for a more personal and almost solo-Lennonish vibe. The songwriting is great, and I think mono might enjoy it's classic feel. My personal favourite song from my personal favourite album! Like most of Honeymoon, the vibe of this song is summer-gothic, soaked both in sunshine and doom. Think of the scenes in Sicily from the first Godfather, that kind of thing. I'm gonna tag eva , but I think everyone should give it a go. The song that made me like her. I love the dreamy, orange-sunset feeling, the fantastic beat, the catchy and lazy chorus, the ASAP ROCKY verse, and that operatic sample at the end is just pure gothic joy. Lana's music is sometimes meme-d as being for sad twerking, and this song sums that vibe up. Sexy, sad, and sultry. I think mystoryisgory will like it, although I recommend it for anyone who likes looking brooding and sexy in July. Speaking of which! The penultimate track has to be an anthem, and that's what this is - the one everyone will sing along to at every gig. It's Lana through and through, and catchy as hell. It's also the only hit pop song I can thing of that starts with the bridge, so there's that. Tagging mossy and funhouse as I'm not sure if they'll like Lana at all, but everyone has to start somewhere. The last song I've picked is the one I think Live4Ever will dig the most. This is a woozy, low-key, ten-minute summer song from her upcoming album with no garish melodrama, no characters, no satire - nothing but ten minutes of perfume-sweet melodies lazily twining in and out of each other. Tagging lubeck , carlober , funhouse , mimmihopps , and theyknowwhatimean for this. Get on it. Her new album is out next month, and it's called Norman Fucking Rockwell. Get hyped. I have a short attention span so I’m not going to even pretend I’m going to read that massive post but I can confirm I like a bit of Lana. Saw her at Glastonbury. 2013 I think. Summertime Sadness is probably my favourite tune. X |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 12:05:45 GMT -5
It's #6, The Escapist  I only know about 2 songs from her and I dislike it tbh but I'm gonna listen to some of the songs you posted cos' who knows, maybe... |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 6, 2019 12:12:00 GMT -5
It's #6, The Escapist I only know about 2 songs from her and I dislike it tbh but I'm gonna listen to some of the songs you posted cos' who knows, maybe... Edited haha. |
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Post by funhouse on Feb 6, 2019 12:47:23 GMT -5
I've heard a few more songs than lubeck, and I'm not too crazy about her either, but this though...
How it was not included among your choices is an ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE!!!
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Post by funhouse on Feb 6, 2019 13:08:39 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Feb 6, 2019 18:07:36 GMT -5
I’ve shamefully been neglecting these threads the last few weeks as I’ve been so busy so apologies to funhouse and lubeck - I really like to invest time into acts so I want to have a real solid listen to both Tom Waits and Elliot Smith, the latter of which I know very little but have heard great things. As for Lana Del Rey, I’m way more familiar with her. For some reason I haven’t invested in her music because she’s got an amazing voice and the songs from what I’ve heard are great too. It’s been that way for two years in fact when I heard the single Love which I absolutely loved on first hearing downloaded immediately. Thought I’d get round to giving her music a proper listen yet here we are and I’m still none the wiser. The lead single off the new one is great too, so definitely in the next couple of months I’ll be spinning her albums for sure. |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 6, 2019 18:55:18 GMT -5
I've heard a few more songs than lubeck, and I'm not too crazy about her either, but this though... How it was not included among your choices is an ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE!!! Picking nine songs to show off her discography was surprisingly difficult. I still can't quite believe I didn't put Video Games there. There's also Blue Jeans, Ride, Ultraviolence, Shades of Cool, Honeymoon, Music to Watch Boys To, High by the Beach, Love, Lust for Life, 13 Beaches, and more...her music isn't the most varied, but it is very consistent. |
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Post by eva on Feb 6, 2019 19:01:54 GMT -5
not for me, mate, not for me
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 7, 2019 0:04:13 GMT -5
Hey I'm not goth!
I don't mind her, but I can't say I listen to her.
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Post by funhouse on Feb 7, 2019 0:10:31 GMT -5
I’ve shamefully been neglecting these threads the last few weeks as I’ve been so busy so apologies to funhouse and lubeck - I really like to invest time into acts so I want to have a real solid listen to both Tom Waits and Elliot Smith, the latter of which I know very little but have heard great things. As for Lana Del Rey, I’m way more familiar with her. For some reason I haven’t invested in her music because she’s got an amazing voice and the songs from what I’ve heard are great too. It’s been that way for two years in fact when I heard the single Love which I absolutely loved on first hearing downloaded immediately. Thought I’d get round to giving her music a proper listen yet here we are and I’m still none the wiser. The lead single off the new one is great too, so definitely in the next couple of months I’ll be spinning her albums for sure. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 7, 2019 1:10:06 GMT -5
You're absolutely right, Young and Beautiful is indeed a song I would like! In fact, it's the sole Lana song that I know really well and I would easily count it among my favorite songs ever. It never fails to send shivers down my spine - not just from the gorgeous melody, but also from Lana's captivating vocals that hit the sweet spot between lust, dread, and hope. I'm honestly a little perplexed that a quick Wikipedia search about it revealed that it was far from the massive hit that I've always imagined that it was. I mean, it charted in the top 25 in the US and UK, but how the fuck does a such a haunting and cinematic ballad as good as this one not top the charts on both sides of the pond?  I suppose that its association with the so-so Gatsby movie doesn't do it any favors, even if it was brilliantly used in the film. Funny enough, I don't associate it with the movie that much because my dad randomly played it for me on its own around the time it came out. Lucky me.
You're also correct and on a bit of a roll here, because I also really liked Summer Bummer! I really liked Lana's incorporation of hip-hop influences, making something really atmospheric yet not really sounding much like what we think of when trip-hop. Really nice track, especially with the distant wailing at the end. Also gets bonus points for completely reshaping in my mind what a Lana Del Ray song can sound like.
I've actually wanted to get more into Lana, because my dad is a huge fan of her. Hence why I know and love Young and Beautiful. But my dad's fandom may have not done many favors for Lana in my eyes, because until now I've always just considered her as something my dad would listen to, despite me repeatedly reading about how her records are worth checking out, and that I have some friends my age who also dig her. Hearing Summer Bummer has piqued my interest in her work. I see that it's on her album Lust for Life, is that a good intro album or should I start somewhere else?
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 7, 2019 7:19:00 GMT -5
You're absolutely right, Young and Beautiful is indeed a song I would like! In fact, it's the sole Lana song that I know really well and I would easily count it among my favorite songs ever. It never fails to send shivers down my spine - not just from the gorgeous melody, but also from Lana's captivating vocals that hit the sweet spot between lust, dread, and hope. I'm honestly a little perplexed that a quick Wikipedia search about it revealed that it was far from the massive hit that I've always imagined that it was. I mean, it charted in the top 25 in the US and UK, but how the fuck does a such a haunting and cinematic ballad as good as this one not top the charts on both sides of the pond? I suppose that its association with the so-so Gatsby movie doesn't do it any favors, even if it was brilliantly used in the film. Funny enough, I don't associate it with the movie that much because my dad randomly played it for me on its own around the time it came out. Lucky me.
You're also correct and on a bit of a roll here, because I also really liked Summer Bummer! I really liked Lana's incorporation of hip-hop influences, making something really atmospheric yet not really sounding much like what we think of when trip-hop. Really nice track, especially with the distant wailing at the end. Also gets bonus points for completely reshaping in my mind what a Lana Del Ray song can sound like.
I've actually wanted to get more into Lana, because my dad is a huge fan of her. Hence why I know and love Young and Beautiful. But my dad's fandom may have not done many favors for Lana in my eyes, because until now I've always just considered her as something my dad would listen to, despite me repeatedly reading about how her records are worth checking out, and that I have some friends my age who also dig her. Hearing Summer Bummer has piqued my interest in her work. I see that it's on her album Lust for Life, is that a good intro album or should I start somewhere else?
I always think her first album, Born to Die, is probably the best introduction. It's Lana at her most Lana-y, and has a healthy crop of her most iconic songs. It really depends what mood you like in her music, I'd describe her albums like this: Born to Die - Anthemic, with a lot of more Lolita-themed songs and hip-hop influences. The most hit singles on it. The Paradise EP that came along with it has some absolute tunes on it, too. Ultraviolence - Darker, with a noir and rock edge. Less hit singles but more atmospheric - and, I'm told, good to smoke to. Honeymoon - Ethereal and filled with almost Greenwood-esque strings. A weird sort of mix of the gothic and the summery. Salvatore, one of the nine songs I picked, shows it off well. Lust for Life - A more pop-tastic and optimistic album. It's a bit over-long but like Born to Die it has a great set of singles and more hip-hop influenced sound. Summer Bummer is probs my favourite song on it but Love, the title track, Cherry, 13 Beaches, and Get Free are all very good too. Norman Fucking Rockwell (so far) - All the singles have been very stripped back and acoustic, and much more personal. It feels like it's going to be as much of a Lizzy Grant album as a Lana Del Rey one. They're honestly all good albums, so I guess just pick the one that appeals most  |
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 7, 2019 9:54:10 GMT -5
She's not my cup of tea, but thanks for the recommendation anyway, The Escapist. Next to my all time hero Patti Smith and Cat Power, these ladies are my favourite female musicians as well. They're all very talented. You might gonna like one of them. Kathryn Joseph Hannah Peel Lisa Germano |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 7, 2019 10:57:25 GMT -5
I'm aware of Lana Del Rey and I've generally heard good things about her but I haven't ever knowingly listened to anything she's done. I also wasn't aware that she is portraying a character so that's interesting to know. As for the song you've tagged my in The Escapist I largely enjoyed it so thanks. It was a nice bit of slightly off-kilter pop. Speaking of Eminem I found the line "Booya, baby, bow down, making me so wow wow" (a little cringey but) very reminiscent of him. The chorus felt a little too predictable and I didn't care for the lyrics but overall it pretty good. I'll give the others a try at some point. |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 7, 2019 12:40:07 GMT -5
I'm aware of Lana Del Rey and I've generally heard good things about her but I haven't ever knowingly listened to anything she's done. I also wasn't aware that she is portraying a character so that's interesting to know. As for the song you've tagged my in The Escapist I largely enjoyed it so thanks. It was a nice bit of slightly off-kilter pop. Speaking of Eminem I found the line "Booya, baby, bow down, making me so wow wow" (a little cringey but) very reminiscent of him. The chorus felt a little too predictable and I didn't care for the lyrics but overall it pretty good. I'll give the others a try at some point. I think it's "Oh yeah, baby, bow down, making me so wild now", but I see your point. National Anthem is a song I can understand people not liking as it's very ostentatious, but I thought you might enjoy it's quite singular vibe. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 7, 2019 15:15:02 GMT -5
Today I told my crush I like him and Born To Die was playing in the background.
Spoiler: It isn't vice versa, but I knew that.
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Post by funhouse on Feb 7, 2019 16:03:17 GMT -5
Speaking of which! The penultimate track has to be an anthem, and that's what this is - the one everyone will sing along to at every gig. It's Lana through and through, and catchy as hell. It's also the only hit pop song I can thing of that starts with the bridge, so there's that. Tagging mossy and funhouse as I'm not sure if they'll like Lana at all, but everyone has to start somewhere. It's alright. Not enough for me to want to hear it again(still listened twice though), but good enough for me not to chance the channel if it would come on the radio. The bridge sounds cool, but that post chorus shouldn't have seen the light of day, it's like some bad Lady Gaga impression  |
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Post by matt on Feb 14, 2019 15:33:48 GMT -5
I think her vocal style very much appeals to me as it has echoes of many other artists I love. For example, it’s not hard to think that she would be able to sing this song by Susanne Sundfor. The album Ten Love Songs is amazing, and the unbelievable Fade Away reminds me somewhat of Lana. Check it out The Escapist. |
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Post by crisppacket on Feb 18, 2019 16:07:03 GMT -5
Woah The Escapist haven’t seen this until now but so weird that you’d tag me in national anthem. I’ve been a casual listener of Lana for years but hadn’t listened to that song until last week, and it’s been on repeat ever since 🤯🤯🤯 Probs one of my faves now |
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I suppose that its association with the so-so Gatsby movie doesn't do it any favors, even if it was brilliantly used in the film. Funny enough, I don't associate it with the movie that much because my dad randomly played it for me on its own around the time it came out. Lucky me.
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