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Post by Flashbax on Dec 24, 2018 17:25:22 GMT -5
I thought it would be fun to do the same @kitjenson (I hope it's okay) did, but then for Liam's catalog.
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Post by Tongueless Ghost Of Sin on Dec 26, 2018 19:28:48 GMT -5
He didn't have anything to do with Wall Of Glass, For What It's Worth or Come Back To Me. Flick of the Finger was a collaborative effort, Liam only had the basic melody without lyrics. I think Take me, Alice and Life in Vain are missing. Otherwise great thread! I found myself mostly clicking 7 or 8 with Noel, with the odd clutch of songs scoring near or totally perfect and a few absolute dire mistakes in the 2/3/4 region. With Liam i'm mostly hitting 6-7 with the odd 8 or 5. No real complete failures but no stone cold classics besides Songbird either. Liam's consistently good and his songs are usually interesting and idiosyncratic, but he struggles to write the hits.
Considering he's an amazing singer and frontman first and foremost, not a singer songwriter, the fact he's a solid songwriter is more of an extra feather in his cap than a limitation.
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Post by Flashbax on Dec 26, 2018 20:17:55 GMT -5
He didn't have anything to do with Wall Of Glass, For What It's Worth or Come Back To Me. Flick of the Finger was a collaborative effort, Liam only had the basic melody without lyrics. I think Take me, Alice and Life in Vain are missing. Otherwise great thread! I found myself mostly clicking 7 or 8 with Noel, with the odd clutch of songs scoring near or totally perfect and a few absolute dire mistakes in the 2/3/4 region. With Liam i'm mostly hitting 6-7 with the odd 8 or 5. No real complete failures but no stone cold classics besides Songbird either. Liam's consistently good and his songs are usually interesting and idiosyncratic, but he struggles to write the hits. Considering he's an amazing singer and frontman first and foremost, not a singer songwriter, the fact he's a solid songwriter is more of an extra feather in his cap than a limitation. I thought this as well, but why would he get a credit for it if he didn't have any input? It's not like he wanted credit on all the songs since he didn't get credits for Paper Crown or Chinatown. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 8:14:19 GMT -5
Any chance we can get an update on these ratings?
What are the people saying?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 27, 2018 10:32:40 GMT -5
He didn't have anything to do with Wall Of Glass, For What It's Worth or Come Back To Me. Flick of the Finger was a collaborative effort, Liam only had the basic melody without lyrics. I think Take me, Alice and Life in Vain are missing. Otherwise great thread! I found myself mostly clicking 7 or 8 with Noel, with the odd clutch of songs scoring near or totally perfect and a few absolute dire mistakes in the 2/3/4 region. With Liam i'm mostly hitting 6-7 with the odd 8 or 5. No real complete failures but no stone cold classics besides Songbird either. Liam's consistently good and his songs are usually interesting and idiosyncratic, but he struggles to write the hits. Considering he's an amazing singer and frontman first and foremost, not a singer songwriter, the fact he's a solid songwriter is more of an extra feather in his cap than a limitation. The album credits said he did. I'm sure he just contributed a lyric here and there ("I'll see what's in your mind" sounds like one of his, and so does the random reference to a classic rock song in 'Come Back to Me'), but still... |
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Post by Flashbax on Dec 27, 2018 12:20:26 GMT -5
Results so far: 40 responses
8,47 - I'm Outta Time
8,34 - Songbird 8,05 - Flick of the Finger 8,05 - I've All I Need
7,97 - Bold
7,79 - Born on a Different Cloud 7,55 - Boy with the Blues 7,42 - Come Back to Me
7,41 - Wall of Glass 7,35 - Greedy Soul
7,32 - Soul Love 7,13 - The Morning Son 7,00 - For What It's Worth
6,97 - Start Anew 6,81 - Doesn't Have to Be That Way
6,76 - Guess God Thinks I'm Abel 6,71 - Evil Eye
6,61 - Wigwam 6,46 - Universal Gleam
6,43 - I Believe in All 6,35 - When I'm in Need
6,24 - Soldier On 6,22 - You Better Run
6,16 - Pass Me Down the Wine 6,05 - The World's Not Set in Stone
5,94 - All My People / All Mankind 5,92 - I Never Wanna Be Like You
5,76 - I Get By
5,62 - Love Like a Bomb 5,58 - Shine a Light -------
5,32 - For Anyone 5,32 - Don't Brother Me 5,30 - Take Me 5,27 - Alice
5,24 - The Meaning of Soul
5,19 - Better Man 5,11 - Bring the Light 5,08 - Man of Misery
5,00 - Two of a Kind
4,95 - Little James 4,84 - Won't Let You Down 4,80 - Reminisce
4,74 - Ain't Got Nothin' 4,59 - Beatles and Stones
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Album cycles:
7,11 - Heathen Chemistry 6,82 - As You Were
6,69 - Dig Out Your Soul
6,57 - BE
5,72 - Don't Believe the Truth
5,55 - Different Gear, Still Speeding
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5,14 - The Rain-era
4,95 - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 27, 2018 13:03:43 GMT -5
Done. Very quickly without much thought, just instinct.
I’ve All I Need got the perfect 10/10. What a song! Britpop bliss.
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Post by matt on Dec 27, 2018 13:37:46 GMT -5
He didn't have anything to do with Wall Of Glass, For What It's Worth or Come Back To Me. Flick of the Finger was a collaborative effort, Liam only had the basic melody without lyrics. I think Take me, Alice and Life in Vain are missing. Otherwise great thread! I found myself mostly clicking 7 or 8 with Noel, with the odd clutch of songs scoring near or totally perfect and a few absolute dire mistakes in the 2/3/4 region. With Liam i'm mostly hitting 6-7 with the odd 8 or 5. No real complete failures but no stone cold classics besides Songbird either. Liam's consistently good and his songs are usually interesting and idiosyncratic, but he struggles to write the hits. Considering he's an amazing singer and frontman first and foremost, not a singer songwriter, the fact he's a solid songwriter is more of an extra feather in his cap than a limitation. I thought this as well, but why would he get a credit for it if he didn't have any input? It's not like he wanted credit on all the songs since he didn't get credits for Paper Crown or Chinatown. It’s standard industry practice to give the performer a writing credit when they’ve done sweet fuck all in reality. Look at Beyoncé and co. |
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Dec 27, 2018 13:54:11 GMT -5
I thought this as well, but why would he get a credit for it if he didn't have any input? It's not like he wanted credit on all the songs since he didn't get credits for Paper Crown or Chinatown. It’s standard industry practice to give the performer a writing credit when they’ve done sweet fuck all in reality. Look at Beyoncé and co. Then wouldn't he have gotten credit across the board? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 14:58:28 GMT -5
Results so far: 40 responses
7,11 - Heathen Chemistry 6,82 - As You Were
6,69 - Dig Out Your Soul
6,57 - BE
5,72 - Don't Believe the Truth
5,55 - Different Gear, Still Speeding
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5,14 - The Rain-era
4,95 - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
What does it say that his output on Oasis worst album is currently rated his best? Even with the small sample size as it is... That is super weird, right? |
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Post by crisppacket on Dec 27, 2018 15:15:00 GMT -5
Wow, take me @ 5.3?  Some truly SICK and TWISTED people round these ends! |
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Post by Manualex on Dec 27, 2018 15:26:52 GMT -5
Results so far: 40 responses
7,11 - Heathen Chemistry 6,82 - As You Were
6,69 - Dig Out Your Soul
6,57 - BE
5,72 - Don't Believe the Truth
5,55 - Different Gear, Still Speeding
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5,14 - The Rain-era
4,95 - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
What does it say that his output on Oasis worst album is currently rated his best? Even with the small sample size as it is... That is super weird, right? One's great, one had potencial to be the greatest of the álbum and the last one... 🙃 |
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Post by janedoe on Dec 27, 2018 16:56:34 GMT -5
My responses are in!
I hope I'm Outta Time stays at the top.
or Soul Love.
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Post by beentherenow on Dec 27, 2018 17:14:31 GMT -5
I think Songbird and BOADC are the best two songs on HC,
BOADC in particular is the only song I really listen to from that era
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Post by Headmaster on Dec 27, 2018 21:35:05 GMT -5
Nice to see BOADC so high, very underrated tune.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 28, 2018 12:22:55 GMT -5
Alice is fucking mint. Fuck you all.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 29, 2018 9:57:55 GMT -5
What does it say that his output on Oasis worst album is currently rated his best? Even with the small sample size as it is... That is super weird, right? One's great, one had potencial to be the greatest of the álbum and the last one... 🙃 Wow I didn't listen to better man for years until now. Holy shit that's bad. I want to love you I want to be a better man I don't want to hurt you I just want to see what's in your hands Well all right now, yeah yeah yeah Well all right now, yeah yeah yeah Ah and I know you'll understand Ah and I know you'll understand These lyrics  it rhymes man. Poetry |
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Post by Manualex on Dec 29, 2018 11:14:17 GMT -5
One's great, one had potencial to be the greatest of the álbum and the last one... 🙃 Wow I didn't listen to better man for years until now. Holy shit that's bad. I want to love you I want to be a better man I don't want to hurt you I just want to see what's in your hands Well all right now, yeah yeah yeah Well all right now, yeah yeah yeah Ah and I know you'll understand Ah and I know you'll understand These lyrics it rhymes man. Poetry Wow Man, now that I see them... They are worse than I remember. |
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Post by World71R on Dec 30, 2018 18:27:42 GMT -5
What does it say that his output on Oasis worst album is currently rated his best? Even with the small sample size as it is... That is super weird, right? One's great, one had potencial to be the greatest of the álbum and the last one... 🙃 Songbird worked perfect for HC and what it could've/should've been (a stripped back, acoustic-based album). Born on a Different Cloud would've worked well on SOTSOG and with a different arrangement. There's some parts and pieces that should be in different places than where they were in the finished form. Better Man could've been good had Liam gone back and worked on the lyrics more. The instrumentation isn't too bad on it. It's not like Probably All in the Mind, which doesn't have too much going on in it and is very clearly derivative. |
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Post by Flashbax on Jan 9, 2019 10:03:28 GMT -5
75 responses
8,35 -0,12 (8,47) - I'm Outta Time 8,38 +0,04(8,34) - Songbird 8,03 +0,06(7,97) - Bold
7,97 -0,08 (8,05) - Flick of the Finger 7,97 -0,08 (8,05) - I've All I Need 7,62 +0,21(7,41) - Wall of Glass 7,56 +0,01(7,55) - Boy with the Blues 7,46 +0,04(7,42) - Come Back to Me
7,43 +0,08(7,35) - Greedy Soul 7,34 +0,02(7,32) - Soul Love 7,26 +0,26(7,00) - For What It's Worth 7,23 -0,56 (7,79) - Born on a Different Cloud
6,80 -0,17 (6,97) - Start Anew 6,72 -0,09 (6,81) - Doesn't Have to Be That Way 6,67 -0,09 (6,76) - Guess God Thinks I'm Abel 6,66 -0,47 (7,13) - The Morning Son
6,66 -0,05 (6,71) - Evil Eye 6,54 +0,11(6,43) - I Believe in All
6,46 +0,00(6,46) - Universal Gleam 6,46 +0,11(6,35) - When I'm in Need 6,37 -0,24 (6,61) - Wigwam 6,33 +0,11(6,22) - You Better Run
6,30 +0,06(6,24) - Soldier On 6,16 +0,00(6,16) - Pass Me Down the Wine 6,11 +0,17(5,94) - All My People / All Mankind
5,89 -0,03 (5,92) - I Never Wanna Be Like You 5,83 +0,21(5,62) - Love Like a Bomb
5,77 +0,01(5,76) - I Get By 5,73 +0,15(5,58) - Shine a Light 5,71 -0,34 (6,05) - The World's Not Set in Stone 5,53 +0,23(5,30) - Take Me
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5,24 -0,08 (5,32) - Don't Brother Me 5,24 +0,05(5,19) - Better Man 5,23 +0,12(5,11) - Bring the Light
5,20 -0,12 (5,32) - For Anyone 5,07 -0,20 (5,27) - Alice 5,04 -0,04 (5,08) - Man of Misery 4,99 +0,15(4,84) - Won't Let You Down 4,91 +0,17(4,74) - Ain't Got Nothin' 4,86 -0,50 (5,36) - Acoustic (Live in Vain) 4,83 -0,17 (5,00) - Two of a Kind
4,70 -0,25 (4,95) - Little James 4,54 -0,05 (4,59) - Beatles and Stones 4,48 -0,32 (4,80) - Reminisce
Total
6,25 -1,45 (7,70)
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1. 6,95 -0,16 (7,11) - Heathen Chemistry 2. 6,89 +0,07(6,82) - As You Were
3. 6,73 +0,04(6,69) - Dig Out Your Soul 4. 6,49 -0,08 (6,57) - BE 5. 5,82 +0,10(5,72) - Don't Believe the Truth 6. 5,41 -0,14 (5,55) - Different Gear, Still Speeding
7. 4,99 -0,15 (5,14) - The Rain-era 8. 4,70 -0,25 (4,95) - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants |
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Post by Aman on Jan 18, 2019 17:31:20 GMT -5
Alice is fucking mint. Fuck you all. lol reminds me of Noel taking the piss in the Noise and Confusion interview. She always comes up smilinggg and with playing with her hairrr. Ooooh. |
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Some truly SICK and TWISTED people round these ends!
it rhymes man. Poetry
