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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 22, 2018 15:21:08 GMT -5
Which album out of the three Noel solo records had the highest highs? (Bonus tracks are excluded from consideration).
As a reminder -
NGHFB: Everybody's On the Run, If I Had A Gun, Death of You and Me, Record Machine, AKA Broken Arrow
CY: Lock All the Doors, The Dying of the Light, While the Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Ballad of the Mighty I
WBTM: Holy Mountain, It's A Beautiful World, She Taught Me How to Fly, Black & White Sunshine, The Man Who Built the Moon
Those are some top tracks listed right there. Difficult one, innit.
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Post by ritajerry on Sept 23, 2018 5:40:51 GMT -5
Which album out of the three Noel solo records had the highest highs? (Bonus tracks are excluded from consideration). As a reminder - NGHFB: Everybody's On the Run, If I Had A Gun, Death of You and Me, Record Machine, AKA Broken Arrow CY: Lock All the Doors, The Dying of the Light, While the Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Ballad of the Mighty I WBTM: Holy Mountain, It's A Beautiful World, She Taught Me How to Fly, Black & White Sunshine, The Man Who Built the Moon Those are some top tracks listed right there. Difficult one, innit. Both of them were brilliant. IMO, NGFHB was the most Oasis’s feeling stuff, but EBOR IIHAG were awesome. CY started more psychedelic tracks, like TRS BOTMI, it also feature some classic Noelrock, like LATD and TDOTL. WBTM was the revolution of Noel with pretty of new psychedelic tracks, and we well received DITW for bonus track. I picked WBTM, because I glad that Noel started the experimental.
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Post by matt on Sept 23, 2018 8:09:48 GMT -5
Moon is first by some considerable distance, even its more traditional moments far outstrip the other two albums (e.g. Love Is The Law a straight up pop number but with cinematic scope and the much loved kitchen sink thrown at it).
The other two albums are so tame and MOR I became cross eyed.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 23, 2018 9:02:23 GMT -5
Which album out of the three Noel solo records had the highest highs? (Bonus tracks are excluded from consideration). As a reminder - NGHFB: Everybody's On the Run, If I Had A Gun, Death of You and Me, Record Machine, AKA Broken Arrow CY: Lock All the Doors, The Dying of the Light, While the Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Ballad of the Mighty I WBTM: Holy Mountain, It's A Beautiful World, She Taught Me How to Fly, Black & White Sunshine, The Man Who Built the Moon Those are some top tracks listed right there. Difficult one, innit. To me Record Machine isn't a high at all. For me it's a low, even. Edit: So is Lock all the doors!
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 24, 2018 4:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 7:47:16 GMT -5
I just broke the tie. Hell yeah!
His debut solo effort clearly has the best collection of songs... some are made worse by poor recording decisions, but the tunes are still there. I haven't gone back to listen to the album as a whole in a while, but the highs definitely get plays quite a bit.
Conversely, the last couple of albums have some real lows (The Right Stuff and Be Careful What You Wish For most notably) which are hard to overlook.
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Post by fartpanic on Sept 28, 2018 3:58:40 GMT -5
Agree with the post above. It's easier to point out the low points.
I can't work out why we were spun all this bullshit about the new album being a new direction and then served up 'Be Careful What You Wish For', which is genuinely just a really lazy Beatles rip off in the most glaringly obvious way, yet because he's sold the new sound thing to everyone he somehow gets a 7.0 from pitchfork.
If songs like that are on any late Oasis album it gets 1.0 by a fat new york journalist.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 1, 2018 20:32:20 GMT -5
This might just be the closest Oasis-related poll ever.
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Post by Tongueless Ghost Of Sin on Oct 2, 2018 5:54:36 GMT -5
Can't get my head around people hating lock All The Doors, it's fucking brilliant for what it is.
I find the high's pretty equal across the 3 albums, but CY has more, HFB the least (Most consistantly good album though) and WBTB in the middle but has the best two songs. The top tier songs on each album for me are:
Everybody's On The Run, If I Had A Gun and Broken Arrow
In The Heat Of The Moment, Lock All The doors, You Know We Can't Go Back, Ballad Of The Mighty Eye, Do The Damage
Holy Mountain (second best song of his solo career), She taught me How To Fly (best) Man Who Built The Moon and Dead In The water
So I'd say
CY-WBTM HFB
It's very close . CY has the lowest lows though. Overall I rate all 3 pretty much on par
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Post by Loaded Silence on Oct 2, 2018 9:56:49 GMT -5
WBTM definitely for me:
WBTM - Fort Knox, Holy Mountain, It's A Beautiful World, She Taught Me How to Fly, The Man Who Built the Moon, Dead in the Water
NGHFB - Everybody's on the Run, The Death of You and Me, AKA... Broken Arrow
Chasing Yesterday - Riverman, While the Song Remains the Same, The Right Stuff, Ballad of the Mighty I
Low's:
NGHFB - Stop the Clocks, Record Machine, Dream On
Chasing Yesterday - In the Heat of the Moment, Lock All the Doors, The Mexican
WBTM - Be Careful What You Wish For, Wednesday 1 and 2
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2018 12:29:12 GMT -5
I'll always hold Be Careful What You Wish For as one of Noel's best songs.
It's more than a Beatles rip. It's not more of a Beatles rip than any of his previous songs. In fact, it's Noel doing something that he hasn't done since WTSMG, and that's taking a clear influence and creating something completely and totally different.
The previous times he's ripped off the Beatles (at least in the last decade and a half), the ripoffs never went further than, this is the sound I'm going for and I'm going to take it. BCWYWF is him liking a sound and morphing it into his own.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Oct 2, 2018 15:11:56 GMT -5
Wow, listening to that again made me remember how weak aI song I think that is. Probably my least favorite high profile Gallagher released song, behind maybe Second Bite of the Apple. Oh well, maybe I'll try again in another 6 months to see if I can figure out what people see in it...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 3, 2018 0:08:23 GMT -5
Wow, listening to that again made me remember how weak aI song I think that is. Probably my least favorite high profile Gallagher released song, behind maybe Second Bite of the Apple. Oh well, maybe I'll try again in another 6 months to see if I can figure out what people see in it... I always thought Second Bite Of The Apple was one of the less bad Beady Eye songs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 6:18:39 GMT -5
I'll always hold Be Careful What You Wish For as one of Noel's best songs.It's more than a Beatles rip. It's not more of a Beatles rip than any of his previous songs. In fact, it's Noel doing something that he hasn't done since WTSMG, and that's taking a clear influence and creating something completely and totally different. The previous times he's ripped off the Beatles (at least in the last decade and a half), the ripoffs never went further than, this is the sound I'm going for and I'm going to take it. BCWYWF is him liking a sound and morphing it into his own. You mean solo career ?
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Post by fartpanic on Oct 4, 2018 10:31:30 GMT -5
I'll always hold Be Careful What You Wish For as one of Noel's best songs. It's more than a Beatles rip. It's not more of a Beatles rip than any of his previous songs. In fact, it's Noel doing something that he hasn't done since WTSMG, and that's taking a clear influence and creating something completely and totally different. The previous times he's ripped off the Beatles (at least in the last decade and a half), the ripoffs never went further than, this is the sound I'm going for and I'm going to take it. BCWYWF is him liking a sound and morphing it into his own. Fairplay if thats what you think. I just think it's literally come together but a bit slower with no chorus and no inspiration. I think Chasing Yesterday is easily the best collection of Noel songs since BHN. But this new album just isnt good when you strip back the "new" sounds. And please can someone tell both Gallaghers that sticking Brass on your songs isnt innovative. They've both done it shitloads since leaving Oasis and talj up the songs like they've invented the new dyson air ball or something.
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Post by Rolo on Oct 4, 2018 10:41:58 GMT -5
Be Careful What You Wish For is a better High Horse Lady.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 4, 2018 11:26:40 GMT -5
Be Careful What You Wish For is a better High Horse Lady. Sounds good to me.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Oct 4, 2018 11:36:13 GMT -5
PCP vs. LSD vs. Gasoline - Which Highs Are Better?
Thanks.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 4, 2018 11:57:49 GMT -5
I'll always hold Be Careful What You Wish For as one of Noel's best songs. It's more than a Beatles rip. It's not more of a Beatles rip than any of his previous songs. In fact, it's Noel doing something that he hasn't done since WTSMG, and that's taking a clear influence and creating something completely and totally different. The previous times he's ripped off the Beatles (at least in the last decade and a half), the ripoffs never went further than, this is the sound I'm going for and I'm going to take it. BCWYWF is him liking a sound and morphing it into his own. Fairplay if thats what you think. I just think it's literally come together but a bit slower with no chorus and no inspiration.I think Chasing Yesterday is easily the best collection of Noel songs since BHN. But this new album just isnt good when you strip back the "new" sounds. And please can someone tell both Gallaghers that sticking Brass on your songs isnt innovative. They've both done it shitloads since leaving Oasis and talj up the songs like they've invented the new dyson air ball or something. I'm fine with no choruses. They're overrated anyways. The song is a mood. It's a feeling. It's meant to be unsettling, layered, tight in a way. The chorus in a way is the development and the build, the sounds and layers stacking on top of each other. That's actually super advanced songwriting and production, and it's a level of songwriting that I've been waiting for Noel to get to, a level that most of his peers have been at imo.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 4, 2018 16:00:44 GMT -5
Wow, listening to that again made me remember how weak aI song I think that is. Probably my least favorite high profile Gallagher released song, behind maybe Second Bite of the Apple. Oh well, maybe I'll try again in another 6 months to see if I can figure out what people see in it... I always thought Second Bite Of The Apple was one of the less bad Beady Eye songs. i agree. the lyrics though
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 6, 2018 12:22:28 GMT -5
I'm going to have to go with CY. WTSRTS, BOTMI, Riverman and the Right Stuff form the core 4 for me on that album, and that core 4 would beat the other two's core 4 (STC, AKAWAL, IIHAG, EOTR) and (TMWBTM, ILITL, B&WS, KOR).
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Post by Parka Flames on Oct 13, 2018 8:37:17 GMT -5
I'm going to have to go with CY. WTSRTS, BOTMI, Riverman and the Right Stuff form the core 4 for me on that album, and that core 4 would beat the other two's core 4 (STC, AKAWAL, IIHAG, EOTR) and (TMWBTM, ILITL, B&WS, KOR). Jesus christ.
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Post by Zingbot on Mar 2, 2020 23:05:48 GMT -5
They all have really high highs. For me, it's NGHFB. It isn't my favorite NG album, but it has EOTR and IIHAG. Not to mention TDOYAM and Dream On. As for chasing yesterday, LATD, TDOTL, TGWXE, YKWCGB, and BOTMI all stand out. As far as WBTM goes, TMWBTM, ILITL, and BCWYWF are the highs.
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Post by jazamora93 on Mar 3, 2020 1:10:03 GMT -5
add AKA What a life on that list. Thats surely better than BOTMI, who by now is forgotten and isnt played live anymore
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Post by russiangenius on Mar 3, 2020 6:33:12 GMT -5
as for me, NGHFB and CY has top highs on the same level (and it's classic tunes), WBTM? highs are even lower than Beady Eye ones
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