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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 24, 2018 11:25:26 GMT -5
We've now had almost two complete decades since the 1990s - it's almost been twenty years since 1999. Crazy.
It's not even contested at how great the 1990s were for music - especially with Britpop/Cool Britannia (or whatever you want to call it).
The 2000's have an upper-hand due to many of the bands from that first decade establishing longevity in the second decade (Arctic Monkeys, for example. And even Oasis' steady relevance for that matter).
But the 2010's have had their moments as well. Tough one, innit.
*I'm having a very deja vu experience with writing this thread. Did I already make this thread? I don't think I did, but deja vu nonetheless. Any way, vote yer ice creams.
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Post by heathenchemist01 on Aug 24, 2018 11:39:56 GMT -5
Going with the 2000s. There was a lot of shit music around, too, but I reckon that at least we still got some decent tunes out of it. However, today - even if there are some songs that are just fine when you listen to them every once in a while - most music on the radio bores me to death but that's coming from somebody who's never really been into most stuff being played there anyway. I'm missing some real Rock music, which I don't really see represented in present-day's 'mainstream'. There might be some insider tips but I just find discovering new Rock music through radio/music TV more difficult than I used to. You gotta go with the times, I guess...
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Post by crisppacket on Aug 24, 2018 11:53:29 GMT -5
2000s pop music was great, 2010s pop music was/is sh sh sh shiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 24, 2018 12:16:55 GMT -5
Both for me.
I've discovered The National in 2007 and The Twilight Sad released their debut album in 2007.
Frightened Rabbit released "The Midnight Organ Fight" in 2008 which is the best album by theirs to me to this day.
in 2010 The National released High Violet and after all those years, world finally found the them with this album.
Erland and The Carnival released their brilliant debut album in 2010.
in 2017 Slowdive came back with the fantastic come back album after 20 years.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 24, 2018 12:22:00 GMT -5
2000s pop music was great, 2010s pop music was/is sh sh sh shiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee But at the time in the 2000's we were saying how shite the music scene was, not satisfied enough with bands like the Arctic Monkeys, The Strokes, The Libertines, Kasabian, MGMT - basically the post-Britpop Indie Movement. But now we're saying that the 2010's music scene is shite, despite Chvrches, Tame Impala, The Struts, Biffy Clyro (kind of qualifies)....Actually fair point - I had to look up bands of the 2010s, which says a lot really. Just switched my vote to the 2000's based on this revelation. |
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Post by crisppacket on Aug 24, 2018 12:49:12 GMT -5
2000s pop music was great, 2010s pop music was/is sh sh sh shiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee But at the time in the 2000's we were saying how shite the music scene was, not satisfied enough with bands like the Arctic Monkeys, The Strokes, The Libertines, Kasabian, MGMT - basically the post-Britpop Indie Movement. But now we're saying that the 2010's music scene is shite, despite Chvrches, Tame Impala, The Struts, Biffy Clyro (kind of qualifies)....Actually fair point - I had to look up bands of the 2010s, which says a lot really. Just switched my vote to the 2000's based on this revelation. I wasn’t into any of that in the 2000s, I’m talking about actual poppy chart music I listened to i.e Girls Aloud, sugababes, mcfly, timberlake, Britney etc. Pop music seems shite now compared to the bangers it produced back then. |
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Post by matt on Aug 24, 2018 15:55:18 GMT -5
Dunno about the 2000s. The Libertines paved the way for most of the indie landfill crap that followed that decade. Plus Pete Doherty is the biggest twat in music. But the memories of the bands from that era will always stay with you that much longer, purely for sentimental reasons myself as they put me on the path to many different acts. I’m thinking primarily about 2003ish when I got into music big time - Gorillaz, Frank Ferdinand, Coldplay, Doves, etc.
One thing I’ll say about the 2010s is that you find a lot of bands and artists so much easier thanks to Spotify and Apple Music. And one of the downsides for bands and artists from this current era is that I’m too busy digging into older stuff that I’ve heard things about for many years to bother listening to ‘current trends’. Maybe that goes for many more folk here?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 16:09:39 GMT -5
00s had The Killers, The Libertines. Arctic Monkeys, Jamie T, Gorillaz, Kasabian, Foals, Babyshambles, The Rifles, The Strokes
I think this decade has been really poor in terms of new bands I've listened to. The likes of Catfish, Courteeners, DMA's etc. for me are just boring and bland. I want the excitement from when I first listened to Arctic Monkeys, The Libertines or The Killers debut albums. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 24, 2018 16:31:20 GMT -5
The 2010s.
Music is just amazing right now, as long as you don't still expect rock to have anything to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 16:50:45 GMT -5
Call me maybe was the best song of the 10s so far
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 25, 2018 1:05:02 GMT -5
It's gotta be the 10s for me too. What distinguishes the 10s from previous decades of music (and elevates it over the 00s for me) is the breakup of any genre's hegemony over the music industry because of the rise of the internet. As matt mentioned a few posts up, streaming services have not only made it easier to discover bands that are to your liking (rather than being forced to endure whatever's on the radio), but it has also given musicians who have previously had no chance of achieving commercial success because they didn't stick to a specific formula, because they refused to stick to a certain template, a geniune shot at success. All because the internet allows for grassroots, word-of-mouth publicity independent of gatekeepers like radio stations or music magazines. You only need to know the story of bands like Disco Inferno who refused to conform to the Britpop trends of the day to know exactly how much power the radio and music press wielded in the past. Disco Inferno were driven to ruin because magazines like the NME and refused to pay them any attention. Such failure is far less likely today. I'm sure most on here will be familiar with how the Arctic Monkeys used the internet to propell themselves to stardom - in the 10s that has become the norm.
I believe this phenomenon has allowed for an unprecendented explosion of musical diversity in the 10s. It's not that previous decades didn't have lots of different groups doing different things, but the internet has allowed the most radical, innovative ideas in music going on right here, right now, to reach the forefront of public consciousness far quicker and more easily.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 25, 2018 4:16:27 GMT -5
I can’t comment on each and every piece of music committed to acetate between 2000-09 and over the last nine years, but I think I can be pretty certain when I say that pop music—the stuff that gets in the charts—is now worse than it’s been at any time since before The Beatles.
The tunes that do well in the charts are nearly always beat-driven, which means there’s no spontaneity or excitement about the recordings, or surprising harmonic shifts. Add to that the uniformally inane lyrics and overly spruced-up productions, and I’d be surprised if anyone who isn’t 18, beautiful, and out clubbing every night could feel any sort of emotional connection to any of it. Compare most of our biggest tunes now with pop from the 60s, 70s, or even the 90s and there’s nothing like the same yearning or sense of joy to them. It all sounds so soulless in comparison.
That someone as mediocre and bland as Ed Sheehan could be allowed to get as big as he has shows what a dire state the pop world is in.
And that’s a fucking shame because there’s nothing like good pop to bring people together and make them feel like their lives are actually worth living.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 25, 2018 9:09:08 GMT -5
I can’t comment on each and every piece of music committed to acetate between 2000-09 and over the last nine years, but I think I can be pretty certain when I say that pop music—the stuff that gets in the charts—is now worse than it’s been since before The Beatles. The tunes that do well in the charts are nearly always beat-driven, which means there’s no spontaneity or excitement about the recordings, or surprising harmonic shifts. Add to that the uniformally inane lyrics and overly spruced-up productions, and I’d be surprised if anyone who isn’t 18, beautiful, and out clubbing every night could feel any sort of emotional connection to any of it. Compare most of our biggest tunes now with pop from the 60s, 70s, or even the 90s and there’s nothing like the same yearning or sense of joy to them. It all sounds so soulless in comparison. That someone as mediocre and bland as Ed Sheehan could be allowed to get as big as he has shows what a dire state the pop world is in. And that’s a fucking shame because there’s nothing like good pop to bring people together and make them feel like their lives are actually worth living. I don't really agree, for a couple of reasons: 1) Music streaming has made the charts somewhat obselete. Everyone is free to listen to everything now, so the stuff that tops the charts will be stuff that is either lowest common denominator or things that have a reason to be repetetively played - specifically, club songs. Of course there's a load of shite there, there always and always will be, and maybe there's more than there used to be, but if you actually look what each "clique" of music is excited about, a lot of the biggest music cultures now are really good. 2) A lot of popular music right now is fucking amazing. Maybe not all the massive stars like Ed Sheeran, but that's the same in any time. The sixties wasn't just the Beatles and Dylan, a lot of shite was massive then too. In the 2010's we've had Kanye West and Kendrick Lamar make some of the greatest albums their fields (and music) have ever seen. To Pimp a Butterfly's single have all clocked multi-millions of views on youtube, as has My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy's, and those two albums (and songs like Power, The Blacker the Berry, Runaway, or Alright) are just as great as anything produced in the sixties, even by the fab four. Add to that the likes of Tyler the Creator, The xx, Travis Scott (who's album is right now at #1 in America and is a pretty trippy and cool take on trap), and a lot more, and I think we're doing fine. Don't forget that The Suburbs won th grammy. Pop stars like Lorde, Lana, Drake before 2015, J. Cole, and others have a lot of talents and good songs too. Anyway, let me count the number of great albums this century and see where most have come from in another post... |
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 25, 2018 9:31:08 GMT -5
Here we go, then. I do so love lists.
Kid A - Radiohead (2000)
Agaetis Bryjun - Sigur Ros (2000)
The Marshall Mathers LP - Eminem (2000)
Parachutes - Coldplay (2000)
Amnesiac - Radiohead (2001)
The Blueprint - Jay Z (2001)
A Rush of Blood to the Head - Coldplay (2002)
The Eminem Show - Eminem (2002)
Geogaddi - Boards of Canada (2002)
The Black Album - Jay Z (2003)
The College Dropout - Kanye West (2004)
Funeral - Arcade Fire (2004)
Madvillainy - Madvillain (2004)
Good News for People Who Love Bad News - Modest Mouse (2004)
Late Registration - Kanye West (2005)
Demon Days - Gorrilaz (2005)
Takk - Sigur Ros (2005)
The Black Parade - My Chemical Romance (2006)
Neon Bible - Arcade Fire (2007)
In Rainbows - Radiohead (2007)
Graduation - Kanye West (2007)
Sound of Silver - LCD Soundsystem (2007)
Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends - Coldplay (2008)
808s & Heartbreak - Kanye West (2008)
For Emma, Forever Ago - Bon Iver (2008)
Tha Carter III - Lil Wayne (2008)
xx - The XX (2009)
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye West (2010)
The Suburbs - Arcade Fire (2010)
This is Happening - LCD Soundsystem (2010)
Plastic Beach - Gorrilaz (2010)
Bon Iver, Bon Iver - Bon Iver (2011)
The King of Limbs - Radiohead (2011)
Take Care - Drake (2011)
Good Kid, Mad City - Kendrick Lamar (2012)
Channel Orange - Frank Ocean (2012)
The Money Store - Death Grips (2012)
Yeezus - Kanye West (2013)
Reflektor - Arcade Fire (2013)
Random Access Memories - Daft Punk (2013)
Acid Rap - Chance the Rapper (2013)
Lost in the Dream - The War on Drugs (2014)
Syro - Aphex Twin (2014)
Run the Jewels 2 - Run the Jewels (2014)
You're Dead! - Flying Lotus (2014)
To Pimp a Butterly - Kendrick Lamar (2015)
Carrie & Lowell - Sufjan Stevens (2015)
In Colour - Jamie xx (2015)
If You're Reading This, It's too Late - Drake (2015)
Blackstar - David Bowie (2016)
A Moon-Shaped Pool - Radiohead (2016)
The Life of Pablo - Kanye West (2016)
Blonde - Frank Ocean (2016)
22, A Million - Bon Iver (2016)
Atrocity Exhibition - Danny Brown (2016)
Teens of Denial - Car Seat Headrest (2016)
4:44 - Jay Z (2017)
Melodrama - Lorde (2017)
Scum Fuck Flower Boy - Tyler, the Creator (2017)
I See You - The xx (2017)
4eva is a Mighty Long Time - Big KRIT (2017)
Arca - Arca (2017)
Kids See Ghosts - Kids See Ghosts (2018)
Book of Ryan - Royce da 5'9 (2018)
Daytona - Pusha T (2018)
Twin Fantasy - Car Seat Headrest (2018)
Astroworld - Travis Scott (2018)
2000s = 27/10 = 2.7 great albums per year.
2010s = 37/8 = 4.6 great albums per year.
Granted, this list is biased as I was a toddler for most of the 2010s and so didn't have my feelers out for great albums, but I'm still gonna narrowly give it to the 2010s. The last few years have just been stellar.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 29, 2018 15:40:31 GMT -5
I can’t comment on each and every piece of music committed to acetate between 2000-09 and over the last nine years, but I think I can be pretty certain when I say that pop music—the stuff that gets in the charts—is now worse than it’s been since before The Beatles. The tunes that do well in the charts are nearly always beat-driven, which means there’s no spontaneity or excitement about the recordings, or surprising harmonic shifts. Add to that the uniformally inane lyrics and overly spruced-up productions, and I’d be surprised if anyone who isn’t 18, beautiful, and out clubbing every night could feel any sort of emotional connection to any of it. Compare most of our biggest tunes now with pop from the 60s, 70s, or even the 90s and there’s nothing like the same yearning or sense of joy to them. It all sounds so soulless in comparison. That someone as mediocre and bland as Ed Sheehan could be allowed to get as big as he has shows what a dire state the pop world is in. And that’s a fucking shame because there’s nothing like good pop to bring people together and make them feel like their lives are actually worth living. Completely agree with you. I also think the problem lies in the fact that people are always looking for the next big thing and everyone wants to be "the new *inserts name of alreay famous artist*" which makes it instantly unoriginal. Before you heard a song and recognized some kind of style. Nowadays you hear a song on the radio and you might think "I don't know what this is but it kinda sounds the same as what I heard 10 minutes ago" |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Sept 3, 2018 4:46:56 GMT -5
gun to my head, id pick 2000s, but theyre both relatively sh!t and only looking to get worse in prep for the 2020s...maybe next millenium we'll get off to a better start?
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Post by beentherenow on Sept 6, 2018 13:21:01 GMT -5
Maybe it’s because it’s the era I really got into music but the early 2000’s had some cracking music. I was discovering bands like Floyd and Zep but also the new bands of the era were pretty damn good
The Strokes, BRMC, The Vines, Coral, TCTC, Interpol, Kings of Leon, Bloc Party, Killers, Kasabian all had their debuts from 2001-04 and bands such as Muse who came out during the late 90’s were really hitting their stride. Even 90’s mainstays like Radiohead, Blur and Manics releases awesome music during the early 2000’s
I’ve really lost touch with the 2010’s and even when i try to like new music it doesn’t happen
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Sept 15, 2018 6:37:41 GMT -5
2000's but two of my Top 10 of the decade (Blind Guardian- At The Edge of Time and Sabaton- Heroes) were released in 2010's so
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Post by NYR on Oct 8, 2018 22:43:37 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure. Growing up in the 2000's, I thought modern music pretty much sucked. Sure, there was Amy Winehouse, the Libertines, the White Stripes, and a bunch of others, but after a while, all the garbage is forgotten and all the good stuff is remembered.
Hindsight is 20/20, and I'm sure I'll feel the same way about this decade in due time.
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