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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 18, 2018 15:52:08 GMT -5
By rate Beady Eye, I mean rate them as a collective project taking into account all aspects: Album quality, touring, promoting, Liam's singing, gigs, attitude, spirit, purpose, etc.
I'm going to give them a very mediocre 6/10.
Losing the talented song-writer was obviously a massive blow to the quality that LAG as a collective unit would be able to produce. But you can't fault the spirit and purpose - which is where I draw most of the accolades from.
Different Gear, Still Speeding was what you'd expect from LAG. And upon release, it sounded rather decent. Seven years later, and the album just feels dated. Some tunes on their are okay, but it's aged poorly in my opinion.
As for BE, that album had the right idea but very poorly executed. Again, some decent tunes on there but I rarely go out of my way to listen to BE (or anything else from Beady Eye, really). The marketing and promoting of BE was shambolic as well.
The best thing they ever did was covering Sons of the Stage. It's such a good cover that I wish Oasis themselves covered it. Hell, I actually wish Oasis wrote it - it's that good of a song. The music video to it was good, and the Blackpool performance (pro-shot) was top. That being said, when the best thing a band has done is a cover, you know there are problems.
Liam's singing was a bit hit and miss at the time, never necessarily reaching the lows of the 2005/06 tour with Oasis, but also not really hitting the highs that Liam would go onto achieve in 2017/18.
Ultimately, Beady Eye had good intentions, the effort was there, and they showed some pride after the implosion of Oasis. It was the right thing to try at the time, and Beady Eye helped keep the lads together so when almost a decade after Oasis split, both Gem and Chris are now fully involved with NGHFB.
tl;dr Decent project, but very mediocre as far as quality and longevity is concerned. 6/10
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Post by Flashbax on Aug 18, 2018 16:15:36 GMT -5
6/10.
Four Letter Word Millionaire The Roller Flick of the Finger Soul Love Soon Come Tomorrow Start Anew Back After the Break Off at the Next Exit Evil Eye
Nothing wrong with these songs, and I still enjoy listening to them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 16:29:15 GMT -5
I would give them 4. Too much shite on their debut album. Four letter word should have been the first single. Flick of the finger a great start to the second album but overall another album that lacked good songs. Good live but the tunes weren't there except for the odd few. Don't rate Andy and Gem as songwriters.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 18, 2018 16:29:59 GMT -5
3/10. I love Liam, but this project was a dismal failure, making his "As You Were" comeback all the more impressive. It's his Empire Strikes Back ending-low-point before the heroic Return of the Jedi.
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Post by Thomas on Aug 18, 2018 17:19:22 GMT -5
5/10. DGSS is a disaster, and even though I really enjoy BE – despite Liam not being at his best –, it's overall a really "okay" album. Some excellent tunes here and there, FOTF being a personal favourite, but the bad ones were really bad.
I'm happy they existed though. Songs on BE helped me through the worst year of my life.
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 19, 2018 3:10:10 GMT -5
5/10. DGSS is a disaster, and even though I really enjoy BE – despite Liam not being at his best –, it's overall a really "okay" album. Some excellent tunes here and there, FOTF being a personal favourite, but the bad ones were really bad. I'm happy they existed though. Songs on BE helped me through the worst year of my life. Funny as I think the opposite. BE is probably the worst album I have ever heard but I don't mind DGSS. I'd say Chasing Yesterday and As You Were are my two favourite post Oasis albums then DGSS. It's not great but I find it listenable, unlike NGHFB, BE and TMSBTM which piss me off. Beady Eye did seem like a very good live band and Liam did put in some great performances before his implosion, and I think they died a bit when they decided to play Oasis songs. It's hard to put a number on it. Liam is definitely better off on his own, but would he be as successful now if he hadn't had the failure of Beady Eye? It seemed to shift his focus and change his game and he is all the better for it.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2018 12:57:39 GMT -5
5/10. DGSS is a disaster, and even though I really enjoy BE – despite Liam not being at his best –, it's overall a really "okay" album. Some excellent tunes here and there, FOTF being a personal favourite, but the bad ones were really bad. I'm happy they existed though. Songs on BE helped me through the worst year of my life. Funny as I think the opposite. BE is probably the worst album I have ever heard but I don't mind DGSS. I'd say Chasing Yesterday and As You Were are my two favourite post Oasis albums then DGSS. It's not great but I find it listenable, unlike NGHFB, BE and TMSBTM which piss me off. Beady Eye did seem like a very good live band and Liam did put in some great performances before his implosion, and I think they died a bit when they decided to play Oasis songs. It's hard to put a number on it. Liam is definitely better off on his own, but would he be as successful now if he hadn't had the failure of Beady Eye? It seemed to shift his focus and change his game and he is all the better for it. WTF is TMSBTM? Why am I finding it difficult to place this acronym?
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Post by MONO on Aug 19, 2018 13:32:01 GMT -5
Acronyms should be banned in general in music forums.
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Post by Manualex on Aug 19, 2018 14:02:40 GMT -5
4/10 good moments but far too waterdown with bad vibes, it was maligned since the release of Bring The Light and the comments that Different Gear would be better than Definitely Maybe. Could've been a lot better than it was, they tried to make something better with BE but it wasnt meant to be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 14:33:04 GMT -5
WTF is TMSBTM? Why am I finding it difficult to place this acronym? Acronyms should be banned in general in music forums. I'd guess it's a typo of the acronym for The Man Who Built The Moon. live4ever.proboards.com/post/1430291
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 19, 2018 15:25:11 GMT -5
Yeah fuck knows what was going on, definitely what isness said above. My acronym game is poor.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 19, 2018 19:10:22 GMT -5
Beady Who?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 19, 2018 19:12:17 GMT -5
5/10. DGSS is a disaster, and even though I really enjoy BE – despite Liam not being at his best –, it's overall a really "okay" album. Some excellent tunes here and there, FOTF being a personal favourite, but the bad ones were really bad. I'm happy they existed though. Songs on BE helped me through the worst year of my life. I recall an interview in that cycle where a girl interviewing Liam expressed that she was surprised there was no filler on the album and Liam agreed.
Just think about that for a moment.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 19, 2018 19:16:43 GMT -5
This thread is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Post by MONO on Aug 20, 2018 0:55:19 GMT -5
The 42.42 Remixes are the best Gallagher tracks released after 2009.
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Post by morning_rain on Aug 20, 2018 6:46:47 GMT -5
7/10 for me. A couple of great songs, some good ones, a bunch of regular ones and some really bad ones.
But they made some poor decisions, stupid claims at interviews, Liam's voice was just ok most of the time and the attitude was bad. They acted like they still was Oasis when they were not. But they had balls for not playing Oasis songs during the DGSS tour.
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Post by matt on Aug 20, 2018 9:52:00 GMT -5
Total dreck and a waste of Liam’s vocal talent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 11:03:40 GMT -5
When Noel's debut album came out it was just a stark contrast in song quality. Noel had dozen of good songs on that album and made Beady Eye's effort look even worse. Sorry to bring Noel into this but their albums were always going to be compared that year and made you think how Everybody's on the Run and Record Machine would sound with Liam's voice instead of the poor songs he had to sing on with Beady Eye.
I get what they were trying to do. They didn't wanna be Oasis v2 and tried to do something different especially with the second album. It just didn't work for me.
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Post by NYR on Aug 24, 2018 14:45:47 GMT -5
5/10. Middle of the road. They weren't bad by any means, but they were intensely formulaic. The fact that they ended up playing Oasis songs by the end shows that it was a failed experiment.
Liam is killing it nowadays, Andy's back with Ride, and Chris and Gem are exactly where they should be… with Noel.
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Post by fartpanic on Sept 3, 2018 18:06:25 GMT -5
You know its a very commons misconception on this forum that the public liked BE but not DGSS and by then they couldnt pull it back.
Genuinely everyone i have spoken to outside this forum preferred DGSS. DGSS had The Roller, which okay wasnt a "hit", it still did a good job of being a charting lead single that got good airplay. Compare that to the 2nd album which got literally nothing of anything and you'll see why it didnt sell.
The more modern production of BE clouds peoples perceptions on here i think. The bonus tracks were amongst their best work but overall, it was BE that killed the Beast.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Sept 5, 2018 22:50:45 GMT -5
You know its a very commons misconception on this forum that the public liked BE but not DGSS and by then they couldnt pull it back. Genuinely everyone i have spoken to outside this forum preferred DGSS. DGSS had The Roller, which okay wasnt a "hit", it still did a good job of being a charting lead single that got good airplay. Compare that to the 2nd album which got literally nothing of anything and you'll see why it didnt sell. The more modern production of BE clouds peoples perceptions on here i think. The bonus tracks were amongst their best work but overall, it was BE that killed the Beast. like 'the public' have even heard of beady eye, let alone ranked their albums...
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Post by fartpanic on Sept 6, 2018 9:22:15 GMT -5
You know its a very commons misconception on this forum that the public liked BE but not DGSS and by then they couldnt pull it back. Genuinely everyone i have spoken to outside this forum preferred DGSS. DGSS had The Roller, which okay wasnt a "hit", it still did a good job of being a charting lead single that got good airplay. Compare that to the 2nd album which got literally nothing of anything and you'll see why it didnt sell. The more modern production of BE clouds peoples perceptions on here i think. The bonus tracks were amongst their best work but overall, it was BE that killed the Beast. like 'the public' have even heard of beady eye, let alone ranked their albums... Sorry i meant just generally people who shown an interest. There's sometimes a running theme on forums that one opinion thats pretty unanimous on the forum is held within a community as a whole. In Beady Eye terms, everyone i've spoken to that was a fan much preferred DGSS. Quite similar to Heathen Chemistry from an Oasis perspective. On here its heavily criticised because of the album overall. Outside here and in the general public SOTSOG is easily considered worse because it had no real singles. HC had 4 Oasis classics. Depends what you want from an album i suppose.
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 7, 2018 19:28:37 GMT -5
They were fine but too much filler on both albums. I far prefer DGSS.
I do think they produced some high quality songs, but because they were done by Beady Eye, they are unfairly dismissed. Songs like Four Letter Word, Wigwam and Flick of the Finger are better than a lot of post-2000 Oasis material. The Morning Son is really damn good, its what Solider On should have been. Put any of those 4 songs on the post-2000 albums and they are easily top 5 songs on those albums.
I also really liked The Roller, Start Anew, Evil Eye and I'm Just Saying (yes, place this one with My Sister Lover in the "songs everyone hates but I absolutely love category").
I'll give them a 6, but know that when it comes to Gallagher, my standards aren't as high as many here (we aren't in the 90s anymore).
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