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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 25, 2018 12:23:02 GMT -5
Everybody’s On The Run, Alone on the Rope, If I Had A Gun, Broken Arrow, The Dying if the Light, While the Song Remains the Same, Freaky Teeth, Holy Mountain (yup), It’s A Beautiful World, The Man Who Built the Moon, Dead in the Water....
All up there with his best output from Oasis. The guy is fucking incredible.
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Post by crisppacket on Apr 25, 2018 12:31:56 GMT -5
Everybody’s On The Run, Alone on the Rope, If I Had A Gun, Broken Arrow, The Dying if the Light, While the Song Remains the Same, Same, Freaky Teeth, Holy Mountain (yup), It’s A Beautiful World, The Man Who Built the Moon, Dead in the Water.... All up there with his best output from Oasis. The guy is fucking incredible. CHOON But yeah I agree he’s pretty decent at writing the songs, he says it himself so often that you actually forget that it’s true |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 25, 2018 12:51:35 GMT -5
To me, his solo stuff is better than most Oasis related music after 1997. I’ll take Riverman over nearly anything on HC, DBTT, and DOYs
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Post by DCUnited on Apr 25, 2018 17:18:26 GMT -5
To me, his solo stuff is better than most Oasis related music after 1997. I’ll take Riverman over nearly anything on HC, DBTT, and DOYs Riverman?  ? Yuck |
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Apr 25, 2018 18:17:39 GMT -5
Without reading the thread, going by the crowd tonight literally none of his new album is even as close to Chasing Yesterday, yet alone his best. Nobody even remotely cared about any of the songs off TMWBTM
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Post by headshrinker84 on Apr 25, 2018 18:56:33 GMT -5
Without reading the thread, going by the crowd tonight literally none of his new album is even as close to Chasing Yesterday, yet alone his best. Nobody even remotely cared about any of the songs off TMWBTM It's pretty much always like that with new songs. Plus i thought Holy Mountain and She Taught Me How To Fly went down well last night. |
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Apr 25, 2018 19:16:24 GMT -5
Without reading the thread, going by the crowd tonight literally none of his new album is even as close to Chasing Yesterday, yet alone his best. Nobody even remotely cared about any of the songs off TMWBTM It's pretty much always like that with new songs. Plus i thought Holy Mountain and She Taught Me How To Fly went down well last night. Wasn’t like that on the CY tour, at least in Aberdeen. Pretty much every song went down well/very well, compared to tonight where folk just chatted amongst themselves when the new songs were on, just no interest whatsoever. |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Apr 25, 2018 22:48:05 GMT -5
Nothing on MWBTM is remotely close...
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Post by bt95 on Apr 26, 2018 2:46:48 GMT -5
It's pretty much always like that with new songs. Plus i thought Holy Mountain and She Taught Me How To Fly went down well last night. Wasn’t like that on the CY tour, at least in Aberdeen. Pretty much every song went down well/very well, compared to tonight where folk just chatted amongst themselves when the new songs were on, just no interest whatsoever. Because by Aberdeen (which was 2016) that album had been out over a year mate. I know WBTM has had five months, but it's still nowhere near as long. I went to the Manchester Arena gig in March 2015, a week after CY came out, and apart from Heat Of The Moment all of the new songs didn't get a 'bouncing' reception. By TITP 2015 the new songs were known but still didn't generate a massive reaction. By 2016 - when I saw him in Leeds - the new songs were suddenly not so new and everybody, bot just the odd superfan, knew them. As headshrinker84 said, it seemed - just from seeing vids - that HM, STMHTF and IABW all went down well. It will depend on the crowd obviously as well. I'll trust your judgement obviously as I wasn't there, but I have no worries that the new material won't go down well in Manchester next week when I'm there. Glasgow looked massive as well. |
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Post by bt95 on Apr 26, 2018 2:48:38 GMT -5
Nothing on MWBTM is remotely close... Listened to Fort Knox and Holy Mountain for the first time in a while this morning. Both are easily up there with his best solo stuff imo and both are up there with a lot of the best moments from Oasis post 2000, or even 1996, imo. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 26, 2018 2:57:06 GMT -5
Wasn’t like that on the CY tour, at least in Aberdeen. Pretty much every song went down well/very well, compared to tonight where folk just chatted amongst themselves when the new songs were on, just no interest whatsoever. Because by Aberdeen (which was 2016) that album had been out over a year mate. I know WBTM has had five months, but it's still nowhere near as long. I went to the Manchester Arena gig in March 2015, a week after CY came out, and apart from Heat Of The Moment all of the new songs didn't get a 'bouncing' reception. By TITP 2015 the new songs were known but still didn't generate a massive reaction. By 2016 - when I saw him in Leeds - the new songs were suddenly not so new and everybody, bot just the odd superfan, knew them. As headshrinker84 said, it seemed - just from seeing vids - that HM, STMHTF and IABW all went down well. It will depend on the crowd obviously as well. I'll trust your judgement obviously as I wasn't there, but I have no worries that the new material won't go down well in Manchester next week when I'm there. Glasgow looked massive as well. Maybe people just haven't taken to the new record as much. |
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Post by bt95 on Apr 26, 2018 3:08:26 GMT -5
Because by Aberdeen (which was 2016) that album had been out over a year mate. I know WBTM has had five months, but it's still nowhere near as long. I went to the Manchester Arena gig in March 2015, a week after CY came out, and apart from Heat Of The Moment all of the new songs didn't get a 'bouncing' reception. By TITP 2015 the new songs were known but still didn't generate a massive reaction. By 2016 - when I saw him in Leeds - the new songs were suddenly not so new and everybody, bot just the odd superfan, knew them. As headshrinker84 said, it seemed - just from seeing vids - that HM, STMHTF and IABW all went down well. It will depend on the crowd obviously as well. I'll trust your judgement obviously as I wasn't there, but I have no worries that the new material won't go down well in Manchester next week when I'm there. Glasgow looked massive as well. Maybe people just haven't taken to the new record as much. Obviously that's a factor, because Liam's material has been out - give or take - the same amount of time and gets a great reception. Then again, he has been more in the spotlight and some of his songs (Bold, Wall Of Glass, Greedy Soul etc) have been out for close to a year now considering they were played live for five months prior to the album's release. But yes, the new Noel songs have alienated people. I don't know why, as I think they're great and exactly what was needed, but others disagree. However, time is a big factor as well and the original poster cited his experience at Aberdeen on the CY tour. I just thought it right to point out that that particular gig was 13 months after CY came out, and that on both occasions in 2015 when I saw Noel at a big gig (the 3rd time was at Manchester Apollo), the new songs didn't go down any better or worse than the ones off WBTM seem to be going at the moment. |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 26, 2018 6:11:09 GMT -5
To me, his solo stuff is better than most Oasis related music after 1997. I’ll take Riverman over nearly anything on HC, DBTT, and DOYs Riverman? ? Yuck I’ll never understand why people don’t like that song, it’s my favorite Noel solo song |
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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 26, 2018 6:12:14 GMT -5
Riverman is outstanding for me.
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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 26, 2018 6:13:56 GMT -5
Been said elsewhere but WBTM may be his weakest batch of solo songs and by some distance, but it’s a really good ‘album”.
If that makes sense?
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Post by bt95 on Apr 26, 2018 6:16:59 GMT -5
Been said elsewhere but WBTM may be his weakest batch of solo songs and by some distance, but it’s a really good ‘album”. If that makes sense? It does. It's why he plays the first four songs all in a row, and the next batch of new songs in a row as well. They work really great together, but on their own not so much. STMHTF looked to me the weakest one to transition live, even though I love the album version, but now he's at the arenas it sounds and looks massive. If he can get TMWBTM right and slot it in instead of ILITL, then I'd be thrilled. Obviously, the set would need a jig around as TMWBTM can only go last in the main set, surely. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 26, 2018 10:35:22 GMT -5
I'd put The Death of You and Me, Alone on a Rope, and While the Song Remains the Same maybe in his top 25 tunes he's ever written, but outside of that I don't think anything's he's done under the High Flying Birds moniker even comes close to his peak in Oasis.
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Post by LlAM on May 2, 2018 3:52:45 GMT -5
Yes, his songwriting is as good now as it has ever been, maybe even better.
But... For the most part....
His Oasis tunes had more SOUL
There's just something about say, Supersonic, Acquiesce and Don't Go Away that he just can't recapture despite writing arguably better songs.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 2, 2018 3:55:29 GMT -5
It's not up there with Definitely Maybe, Morning Glory and a bit of BHN IMO, but it comes right after it (the exceptions being some later Oasis songs, mostly the singles)
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 4:18:35 GMT -5
Yes, his songwriting is as good now as it has ever been, maybe even better. But... For the most part.... His Oasis tunes had more SOUL There's just something about say, Supersonic, Acquiesce and Don't Go Away that he just can't recapture despite writing arguably better songs. Better tracks than Supersonic and Acquiesce on a HFB album ? Where ? |
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Post by GlastoEls on May 2, 2018 12:14:18 GMT -5
It's not up there with Definitely Maybe, Morning Glory and a bit of BHN IMO, but it comes right after it (the exceptions being some later Oasis songs, mostly the singles) Exactly how I feel about it. |
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Post by LlAM on May 3, 2018 4:39:03 GMT -5
Yes, his songwriting is as good now as it has ever been, maybe even better. But... For the most part.... His Oasis tunes had more SOUL There's just something about say, Supersonic, Acquiesce and Don't Go Away that he just can't recapture despite writing arguably better songs. Better tracks than Supersonic and Acquiesce on a HFB album ? Where ? Songs like Supersonic and Acquiesce captured a moment and are legendary. Beyond that, they' re anthemic and make you want to stand arm in arm with your mates and belt the choruses out loud. As for songwriting and melody, I reckon Noel as equaled that on several occasions, but his new tracks will never be as legendary or capture a moment in history. Nor will the delivery and production ever feel like you're being punched in the face or want to swagger round town with an Oasis haircut. If Noel released Supersonic tomorrow, most of the forum would be ripping him apart saying it's the worst generic shite ever and that the lyrics are worse than Little James. If Oasis released Lock All The Doors in 1994, it would be a classic. True fact. |
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Post by Parka Flames on May 3, 2018 5:19:41 GMT -5
The Death of You and Me
Dream On
Let the Lord Shine a Light On Me
Riverman
In the Heat of the Moment
Lock All The Doors
The Dying of the Light
The Right Stuff
You Know We Can't Go Back
Stranded on the Wrong Beach
If I Had a Gun
Holy Mountain
The Man Who Built the Moon
Freaky Teeth
Black & White Sunshine
Dead in the Water
Though I like WBTM it hasn't really been long enough to judge which songs are classics. The above songs though are certainly as good as (if not better than) anything Noel has written since 1997.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 6:15:15 GMT -5
Better tracks than Supersonic and Acquiesce on a HFB album ? Where ? Songs like Supersonic and Acquiesce captured a moment and are legendary. Beyond that, they' re anthemic and make you want to stand arm in arm with your mates and belt the choruses out loud. As for songwriting and melody, I reckon Noel as equaled that on several occasions, but his new tracks will never be as legendary or capture a moment in history. Nor will the delivery and production ever feel like you're being punched in the face or want to swagger round town with an Oasis haircut. If Noel released Supersonic tomorrow, most of the forum would be ripping him apart saying it's the worst generic shite ever and that the lyrics are worse than Little James. If Oasis released Lock All The Doors in 1994, it would be a classic. True fact. If Noel released Supersonic tomorrow, most of the forum would go crazy. It would never be as good as if it was released in the 90's (sound, production, vocals) but that would mean Noel can still write great refined melodies. And if we're talking about melodies, maybe he equaled Supersonic, but if so, he did it in the 90's, certainly not in his solo career. There's not a single melody that comes close to equal Up In The Sky on his last album, let alone Supersonic. And Lock All The Doors wouldn't even had been a D-side in 1994. |
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Post by northernsky on May 3, 2018 6:45:46 GMT -5
All up there with his best output from Oasis post 1997. Fixed |
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