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Post by uboasis on Feb 27, 2018 22:21:13 GMT -5
I am fascinated by the evolution of NGHFB to how it is including Jessica, Ayse, and Charlotte. You can tell by the official photos on social media, that Noel is really trying to sell the three female singers as an integral psrt of the NGHFB experience.
I also think he is trying to take from David Bowie and Gorillaz. We know Noel loves David Bowie and I think he's fascinated by the 'weirdness'. However, Noel knows that he could not pull off 'weird' and he doesn't feel comfortable being 'weird'. This is why I think he embraces Charlotte's eccentricities so much (whistle, cape, phone, etc) because she brings an element of 'weirdness'. He embraces this completely (as he should).
He is also featuring Ayse more often. SHe practically sings the whole lead on The Right Stuff. I think he is inspired by how Gorillaz is more than just a Damon Albarn project. The Gorillaz have so much going on stage and I think Ayse brings an element people wouldn't expect from Noel.
I think next album/tour he will either go back to the old way (which would bore me) or he will push the envelope further and will be even more dependent on female vocalists and outside performers.
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Post by shannee on Feb 27, 2018 23:24:47 GMT -5
From the pics, it looks like the band are having a lot of fun and enjoying each others company, which is maybe resulting in a more dynamic show. I'm sure having three women in the band has changed the backstage vibe, maybe for the better. I agree with you about Charlotte but I'd replace the word weird with quirky  I wonder how much touring with U2 has influenced him too |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 28, 2018 1:39:06 GMT -5
Despite his huge ego and deserved reputation as an aloof, manipulating mastermind, I have a sneaking suspicion that Noel longs for a true foil. Someone with equal musical skill who he can bounce ideas off of. Someone who can do some things better than he can. A Lennon to his McCartney. And that's not something that he ever had in Oasis. You could argue that Noel has found his foil in Holmes. But I suspect that Noel isn't satisfied with just one person to help him out. Deep down, he may just still wish he were in a band, but one with more collaboration. New sounds! New attitudes! New ideas!
I really hope he keeps going down this rabbit hole. I believe he's still got his best solo album in him. And I say that as someone who thinks that WBTM is the best thing he's done since 97.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 8:38:28 GMT -5
I think he's created a different and more energetic stage presence for both himself and his band. The problem for me is that the set isn't anywhere near as good as those he's played before. Definitely more ambitious musically but lacking in the things that made him great.
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Post by NYR on Feb 28, 2018 11:29:25 GMT -5
I think he's created a different and more energetic stage presence for both himself and his band. The problem for me is that the set isn't anywhere near as good as those he's played before. Definitely more ambitious musically but lacking in the things that made him great. See, I prefer ambition. He's played it safe for so long. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 12:01:30 GMT -5
I think he's created a different and more energetic stage presence for both himself and his band. The problem for me is that the set isn't anywhere near as good as those he's played before. Definitely more ambitious musically but lacking in the things that made him great. See, I prefer ambition. He's played it safe for so long. Yeah, but you yankees never had gigs like this anyway: |
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Post by aldamasta on Feb 28, 2018 16:34:04 GMT -5
I have definitely been thinking about the similarities between HFB and Gorillaz. Noel seems like he has a great time at Gorillaz gigs on stage and off, and he's part of that family now, so I can see why Noel would want something similar. Somewhat of a side note: I've always craved a Noel/Damon album, and I think David Holmes would be great as a producer on it. Damon could definitely be someone to bounce ideas off of. I feel like they could push each other in ways neither have been before with potentially incredible results.
It's so great to see him loving his band and the new album, cos I think they're both his best since the 90s. I can't wait to see what direction he heads moving on!
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Feb 28, 2018 21:00:32 GMT -5
Good call and I definitely agree. And more, I agree with Noel, the girls really gave the band a new face, a new sound.
The songs with Yseé are unbelievable. I really hope she gets to sing more and more at the gigs. And the little things, like Jessica singing the maybe vocal on Wonderwall or the backing on Go Let It Out, feels all brand new.
I was really disappointed The first time I saw the setlist, but Im really looking forward to see this HFB formation.
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Post by fiv3oclocksh4dow on Feb 28, 2018 22:19:11 GMT -5
I think he's created a different and more energetic stage presence for both himself and his band. The problem for me is that the set isn't anywhere near as good as those he's played before. Definitely more ambitious musically but lacking in the things that made him great. There really isn’t ANY rock to his current set. It’s music for grannies at this point. |
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Post by drummert5 on Feb 28, 2018 22:43:31 GMT -5
I was really disappointed The first time I saw the setlist, but Im really looking forward to see this HFB formation. I promise, it’s not disappointing in person 😊 they’re singing great, playing great, it’s a nice mix between up tempo stuff and slower stuff, it flows well... my favorite Noel setlist up to this point had been the early CY shows (opening with Do the Damage, including BOTMI), but this one tops it. |
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Post by fiv3oclocksh4dow on Feb 28, 2018 23:24:25 GMT -5
I was really disappointed The first time I saw the setlist, but Im really looking forward to see this HFB formation. I promise, it’s not disappointing in person 😊 they’re singing great, playing great, it’s a nice mix between up tempo stuff and slower stuff, it flows well... my favorite Noel setlist up to this point had been the early CY shows (opening with Do the Damage, including BOTMI), but this one tops it. Honestly, The Right Stuff, and Riverman was the best moment of the night. But the only tracks that really reminded me of his former style were Dream On and Dead in the Water. All the other stuff really sounded more contemporary and Noel 2.0. I’m happy he’s at least trying to do something different, but I honestly just don’t like his live set style anymore. There’s a serious lack of energy, and he said tonight was the “Best Night” of the tour so far. It feels so many million miles away from Oasis at this point. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2018 23:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by yeayeayeah on Mar 1, 2018 2:49:13 GMT -5
If he was out touring the same standard Noel set for the third time it would be beyond boring. It's great he has changed up his set and great it features lots off WBTM.
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Post by aloneontherope on Mar 1, 2018 5:46:17 GMT -5
This one's better than the debut (probably because you can hear it better). The band seems to be loving it, especially Noel.
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 1, 2018 6:28:22 GMT -5
This one's better than the debut (probably because you can hear it better). The band seems to be loving it, especially Noel. Many thanks xx |
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Post by GlastoEls on Mar 1, 2018 15:13:44 GMT -5
A Noel / Damon album for me.. please?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 18:39:44 GMT -5
I wasn't a believer til I saw them play live (in person). The current show and lineup are infinitely superior to those from the last two tours.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Mar 1, 2018 22:33:09 GMT -5
See, I prefer ambition. He's played it safe for so long. Yeah, but you yankees never had gigs like this anyway: Why does Noel almost always play the acoustic version of DLBIA with Chris? He's the best drummer for the song other than Alan and this is one of the few gigs he actually played the electric version with him as the drummer |
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Post by fartpanic on Mar 10, 2018 1:16:53 GMT -5
one day noel woke up and realised that his music collection up until his early 30s was very contrived. Beatles, Bowie, T Rex, Stones. Great artists but confined.
He realised that the next period of his life needs to be shown as branching out and redefining himself. Great that he has finally realised that he needs to do this. It's a pity that he couldn't do this circa 2000 and give us an Oasis Magical Mystery Tour/Sgt pepper era.
Instead we got the right idea executed very badly.
Inspired ideas with uninspiring songs. We will look back at Who Built The Moon as the right way to go for the future but with little done the right way.
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Post by sfsorrow on Mar 10, 2018 9:50:11 GMT -5
one day noel woke up and realised that his music collection up until his early 30s was very contrived. Beatles, Bowie, T Rex, Stones. Great artists but confined. He realised that the next period of his life needs to be shown as branching out and redefining himself. Great that he has finally realised that he needs to do this. It's a pity that he couldn't do this circa 2000 and give us an Oasis Magical Mystery Tour/Sgt pepper era. I agree with a lot of this. Look back on some of those 90s interviews, Noel mostly namechecks the same artists, though it may be a bit more varied than that: The Sex Pistols, The Jam, The Smiths, MC5, The Bee Gees, The Who, The Small Faces, The Kinks, Burt Bacharach... But I do think by the late 90s, Noel's music tastes started expanding a bit and then I think his discovery of the Amorphous Androgynous Monstrous Bubble album around 2008 had a huge effect on him. I will say though that I think he felt, and he was probably quite justified in feeling this, that there would have been a huge resistance within the band had he gone too deep into the Monstrous Bubble sound. Liam's comments over the last year certainly reinforce that. So to be honest, I don't think we would have ever got that in Oasis. Dig Out Your Soul was a sign that even before hearing Monstrous Bubble that he was delving more into the pyschedelic deep-cut sound. B ut I think even that album was constrained. This is why his first project as a solo artist was supposed to be the AA album but his commercial-leanings took over at some point and I think he started feeling that he had to establish himself as a commercial artist first before starting to get crazy. I think he's now in the place that he really wanted to go in, probably around 2007 or 2008. |
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Post by edaff4 on May 15, 2018 14:27:09 GMT -5
Having been to a handful of his shows this tour the vibe is defiantly more energetic. Noel seems to bounce off the others on stage and in general looks happier up there. Plus his voice is getting stronger with each tour, in my opinion if he keeps improving the way he currently is he'll be unstoppable. Looking forward to see what his next work sounds like.
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Post by rpn101 on May 15, 2018 16:31:44 GMT -5
I wasn't a believer til I saw them play live (in person). The current show and lineup are infinitely superior to those from the last two tours. I got my first dose of this tour yesterday at Watford and couldn't agree more. The sound was huge. The musicianship is really impressive. The new songs sound infinitely better and bigger live. The album is well produced but they come to life in a live setting. Beautiful World was a highlight. The setlist hangs together really well. |
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Post by mancraider on May 15, 2018 16:36:19 GMT -5
While I think musically AA were an important influence I feel that his live show has been shaped a lot by his involvement with Damon Albarn and his musical collective approach to a live show.
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Post by beautifulsupernova on May 17, 2018 17:25:40 GMT -5
At Belfast the chemistry between everyone on stage was amazing
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