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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 12, 2018 16:01:26 GMT -5
Because I think we do need to write it down....
The Be Here Now Manifesto goes:
Be Here Now is the best, snort cocaine all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 16:31:05 GMT -5
You can feel the cocaine coming through the speakers when you hear it.
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Feb 12, 2018 22:12:32 GMT -5
It is the best Oasis album of all time. Honestly. Fuck Morning Glory. Morning Glory is a collection of absurdly good songs with filler songs on it. It doesn't flow as an album. Be Here Now does. Everything reason Noel has ever given for Be Here Now not being good enough is applicable to Morning Glory in my opinion.
Throwing away great b-sides and having filler on the actual album? Hello, Hey Now and She's Electric are the proof of that. Even the though of Hello opening is fucking miserable.
Production? Never thought Morning Glory sounded like Oasis. It has a polished feel to it as opposed to the rawness of Definetely Maybe and Be Here Now. It works on some of the songs like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Cast No Shadow and Champagne Supernova but Roll With It hasn't got enough balls in my opinion.
The only song on Be Here Now that seems too long for me is It's Getting Better Man and in a way it works because just by the time you've gotten sick of it, you feel doubly happy to hear the reprise of All Around The World.
Be Here Now is quite simply Oasis's mastepiece.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 12, 2018 22:24:06 GMT -5
It is the best Oasis album of all time. Honestly. Fuck Morning Glory. Morning Glory is a collection of absurdly good songs with filler songs on it. It doesn't flow as an album. Be Here Now does. Everything reason Noel has ever given for Be Here Now not being good enough is applicable to Morning Glory in my opinion. Throwing away great b-sides and having filler on the actual album? Hello, Hey Now and She's Electric are the proof of that. Even the though of Hello opening is fucking miserable. Production? Never thought Morning Glory sounded like Oasis. It has a polished feel to it as opposed to the rawness of Definetely Maybe and Be Here Now. It works on some of the songs like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Cast No Shadow and Champagne Supernova but Roll With It hasn't got enough balls in my opinion. The only song on Be Here Now that seems too long for me is It's Getting Better Man and in a way it works because just by the time you've gotten sick of it, you feel doubly happy to hear the reprise of All Around The World. Be Here Now is quite simply Oasis's mastepiece. Hello is top, to be fair. |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 13, 2018 1:38:42 GMT -5
It is the best Oasis album of all time. Honestly. Fuck Morning Glory. Morning Glory is a collection of absurdly good songs with filler songs on it. It doesn't flow as an album. Be Here Now does. Everything reason Noel has ever given for Be Here Now not being good enough is applicable to Morning Glory in my opinion. Throwing away great b-sides and having filler on the actual album? Hello, Hey Now and She's Electric are the proof of that. Even the though of Hello opening is fucking miserable. Production? Never thought Morning Glory sounded like Oasis. It has a polished feel to it as opposed to the rawness of Definetely Maybe and Be Here Now. It works on some of the songs like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Cast No Shadow and Champagne Supernova but Roll With It hasn't got enough balls in my opinion. The only song on Be Here Now that seems too long for me is It's Getting Better Man and in a way it works because just by the time you've gotten sick of it, you feel doubly happy to hear the reprise of All Around The World. Be Here Now is quite simply Oasis's mastepiece. I love Be Here now, But it can't touch Definitely Maybe. |
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Post by funhouse on Feb 13, 2018 4:15:29 GMT -5
It is the best Oasis album of all time. Honestly. Fuck Morning Glory. Morning Glory is a collection of absurdly good songs with filler songs on it. As if there wouldn't be any filler tracks on Be Here Now. |
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Feb 13, 2018 8:06:48 GMT -5
It is the best Oasis album of all time. Honestly. Fuck Morning Glory. Morning Glory is a collection of absurdly good songs with filler songs on it. As if there wouldn't be any filler tracks on Be Here Now. The only thing that sounds remotely like filler to me on Be Here Now is the last three minutes of It's Getting Better Man. Definetely Maybe also has it's three stinkers; Up In The Sky, Bring On Down and Digsy's Dinner. That's why Be Here Now is better than the other two. There are no tracks that seem totally out of place, it flows perfectly like an album. I'm not saying Hello is a bad track per se, it's ok but it shouldn't start the album. They should have kept Acquiesce and started with that instead. Also why throw away tracks like Round Are Way and The Masterplan but put bollocks like Hey Now and particularly She's Electric on??? I did actually like Hey Now until I heard Who Feels Love? They recycled the same chord change but I think it works a lot better on WFL. |
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Post by funhouse on Feb 13, 2018 8:39:16 GMT -5
As if there wouldn't be any filler tracks on Be Here Now. The only thing that sounds remotely like filler to me on Be Here Now is the last three minutes of It's Getting Better Man. Definetely Maybe also has it's three stinkers; Up In The Sky, Bring On Down and Digsy's Dinner. That's why Be Here Now is better than the other two. There are no tracks that seem totally out of place, it flows perfectly like an album. I'm not saying Hello is a bad track per se, it's ok but it shouldn't start the album. They should have kept Acquiesce and started with that instead. Also why throw away tracks like Round Are Way and The Masterplan but put bollocks like Hey Now and particularly She's Electric on??? I did actually like Hey Now until I heard Who Feels Love? They recycled the same chord change but I think it works a lot better on WFL. What is and what is not a filler is of course subjective, but calling those three DM tracks stinkers is beyond my imagination. Ok, Digsy's Dinner I could live without(although it has its charm), but Bring It On Down(especially this one, top 10 material for me) and Up In The Sky are miiiiles better than Magic Pie and The Girl In The Dirty Shirt. I also prefer Hey Now and She's Electric to those tracks. But that's just me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 8:47:01 GMT -5
(What's The Story) Morning Glory flows perfectly for me. Also, I don't think it sounds un-Oasis at all, it's slightly more polished than Definitely Maybe, but it's still very abrasive, even the ballads (Wonderwall especially).
As for Be Here Now, it's a great album (light years ahead everything they've done after) but DM and WTSMG are untouchable.
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Post by harryg101 on Feb 13, 2018 8:47:37 GMT -5
I think Be Here Now is the best album. Not as good as Definitely Maybe musically, but because of the hype surrounding it and the stories from the studio and that time, it seems like the best one to listen to and live the experience they had! Obviously we can't hear any messages because the lyrics are nonsense, but they had the best time anyone has ever had recording an album- ever! They had the most anticipated album ever just around the corner, they were drugged up 24/7 and had every newspaper in England waiting outside their house!
This album reflects that time, so I think it's the best
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2018 9:19:32 GMT -5
Be Here Now is a perfect snap shot of the times. When you listen to it, it instantly feels like 1997 and all the rock n roll excess that came with it. Sign of the times.
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Post by Parka Flames on Feb 15, 2018 7:35:08 GMT -5
Because I think we do need to write it down.... The Be Here Now Manifesto goes: Be Here Now is the best, snort cocaine all the time. At the time it felt like a much more all-encompassing philosophy. |
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Post by garys on Feb 15, 2018 11:42:31 GMT -5
There was a fan edit I downloaded years ago (NOT the soniclovenoize version, this one is better) that was brilliantly done. He did some work in Audition to minimize the brickwall effect as well and added some bass which you can actually hear now in the mix. It's the only version I listen to and it's my favorite Oasis album.
Here are his notes:
OASIS - BE THERE THEN
Original album: Be Here Now (1997)
What’s wrong with the original?: I’ll let Noel Gallagher handle this one. “It’s the sound of a bunch of guys on coke in the studio not giving a fuck. There’s no bass to it at all. I don’t know what happened to that…and all the songs are really long, and all the lyrics are shit, and for every millisecond Liam is not saying a word, there’s a fucking guitar riff in there in a Wayne’s World stylee. Fucking air guitar gone mental. But Liam thinks it fucking rocks.”
What’s different about my edit?: It’s missing 13 minutes of repeated choruses and identical instrumental breaks. I’ve also tried to fix the clipping caused by brickwalled mastering.
How does that change the listening experience?: The songs don’t overstay their welcome anymore, which makes their melodic charms more readily apparent. The production is still overblown, of course (undoubtedly an attempt to up the ante after (What’s The Story) Morning Glory) but the enhanced dynamic range does allow the arrangements to breathe a little more.
For example It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) is a much more concise 5:13
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Post by heathenchemist01 on Feb 16, 2018 15:11:15 GMT -5
To me, BHN is perfect and I'd change absolutely nothing about it. You can't just take the madness out of it or it is truly ruined. Each to their own, I guess, but proof for me is that imo NG's rethink of DYKWIM already lacked the power and spirit of the original and I can't imagine this happening to the whole album.
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Post by My Big Name on Feb 19, 2018 6:16:22 GMT -5
There was a fan edit I downloaded years ago (NOT the soniclovenoize version, this one is better) that was brilliantly done. He did some work in Audition to minimize the brickwall effect as well and added some bass which you can actually hear now in the mix. It's the only version I listen to and it's my favorite Oasis album. Here are his notes: OASIS - BE THERE THEN Original album: Be Here Now (1997) What’s wrong with the original?: I’ll let Noel Gallagher handle this one. “It’s the sound of a bunch of guys on coke in the studio not giving a fuck. There’s no bass to it at all. I don’t know what happened to that…and all the songs are really long, and all the lyrics are shit, and for every millisecond Liam is not saying a word, there’s a fucking guitar riff in there in a Wayne’s World stylee. Fucking air guitar gone mental. But Liam thinks it fucking rocks.” What’s different about my edit?: It’s missing 13 minutes of repeated choruses and identical instrumental breaks. I’ve also tried to fix the clipping caused by brickwalled mastering. How does that change the listening experience?: The songs don’t overstay their welcome anymore, which makes their melodic charms more readily apparent. The production is still overblown, of course (undoubtedly an attempt to up the ante after (What’s The Story) Morning Glory) but the enhanced dynamic range does allow the arrangements to breathe a little more. For example It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) is a much more concise 5:13 Any idea where I could download it? |
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Post by garys on Feb 20, 2018 19:17:15 GMT -5
There was a fan edit I downloaded years ago (NOT the soniclovenoize version, this one is better) that was brilliantly done. He did some work in Audition to minimize the brickwall effect as well and added some bass which you can actually hear now in the mix. It's the only version I listen to and it's my favorite Oasis album. Here are his notes: OASIS - BE THERE THEN Original album: Be Here Now (1997) What’s wrong with the original?: I’ll let Noel Gallagher handle this one. “It’s the sound of a bunch of guys on coke in the studio not giving a fuck. There’s no bass to it at all. I don’t know what happened to that…and all the songs are really long, and all the lyrics are shit, and for every millisecond Liam is not saying a word, there’s a fucking guitar riff in there in a Wayne’s World stylee. Fucking air guitar gone mental. But Liam thinks it fucking rocks.” What’s different about my edit?: It’s missing 13 minutes of repeated choruses and identical instrumental breaks. I’ve also tried to fix the clipping caused by brickwalled mastering. How does that change the listening experience?: The songs don’t overstay their welcome anymore, which makes their melodic charms more readily apparent. The production is still overblown, of course (undoubtedly an attempt to up the ante after (What’s The Story) Morning Glory) but the enhanced dynamic range does allow the arrangements to breathe a little more. For example It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) is a much more concise 5:13 Any idea where I could download it? I'd like to hear what you think after you've had a chance to listen Cheers |
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Post by Aman on Feb 21, 2018 5:43:51 GMT -5
It is the best Oasis album of all time. Honestly. Fuck Morning Glory. Morning Glory is a collection of absurdly good songs with filler songs on it. As if there wouldn't be any filler tracks on Be Here Now. Magic Pie ffs. Calling Magic Pie "filler" would be a positive for that disaster of a song! |
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Post by Aman on Feb 21, 2018 5:44:28 GMT -5
As if there wouldn't be any filler tracks on Be Here Now. The only thing that sounds remotely like filler to me on Be Here Now is the last three minutes of It's Getting Better Man. Definetely Maybe also has it's three stinkers; Up In The Sky, Bring On Down and Digsy's Dinner. That's why Be Here Now is better than the other two. There are no tracks that seem totally out of place, it flows perfectly like an album. I'm not saying Hello is a bad track per se, it's ok but it shouldn't start the album. They should have kept Acquiesce and started with that instead. Also why throw away tracks like Round Are Way and The Masterplan but put bollocks like Hey Now and particularly She's Electric on??? I did actually like Hey Now until I heard Who Feels Love? They recycled the same chord change but I think it works a lot better on WFL. Bring It On Down...stinker? WHAT. |
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Post by cigarsinhell on Feb 22, 2018 15:56:29 GMT -5
Because I think we do need to write it down.... The Be Here Now Manifesto goes: Be Here Now is the best, snort cocaine all the time. At the time it felt like a much more all-encompassing philosophy. "Be Here Now" is my favorite record of all time. I love all of it, except where Noel sings. |
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Post by Parka Flames on Feb 27, 2018 11:27:52 GMT -5
As if there wouldn't be any filler tracks on Be Here Now. Magic Pie ffs. Calling Magic Pie "filler" would be a positive for that disaster of a song! I actually quite like Magic Pie. Until the drums come in, that is. |
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 27, 2018 11:41:40 GMT -5
Magic Pie ffs. Calling Magic Pie "filler" would be a positive for that disaster of a song! I actually quite like Magic Pie. Until the drums come in, that is. classic noel song but way too long. far away from a disaster |
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Post by Aman on Feb 27, 2018 19:30:55 GMT -5
His vocals are really poor on it.
It's tough to listen to.
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Post by Spaceman on Feb 27, 2018 19:34:52 GMT -5
Magic Pie is a proper fuckin c h o o n !
#factsonly
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Feb 28, 2018 12:53:50 GMT -5
Magic Pie is one of the top 10 Oasis tracks period. I say that as a massive Liam fan.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 5, 2018 19:52:50 GMT -5
There was a fan edit I downloaded years ago (NOT the soniclovenoize version, this one is better) that was brilliantly done. He did some work in Audition to minimize the brickwall effect as well and added some bass which you can actually hear now in the mix. It's the only version I listen to and it's my favorite Oasis album. Here are his notes: OASIS - BE THERE THEN Original album: Be Here Now (1997) What’s wrong with the original?: I’ll let Noel Gallagher handle this one. “It’s the sound of a bunch of guys on coke in the studio not giving a fuck. There’s no bass to it at all. I don’t know what happened to that…and all the songs are really long, and all the lyrics are shit, and for every millisecond Liam is not saying a word, there’s a fucking guitar riff in there in a Wayne’s World stylee. Fucking air guitar gone mental. But Liam thinks it fucking rocks.” What’s different about my edit?: It’s missing 13 minutes of repeated choruses and identical instrumental breaks. I’ve also tried to fix the clipping caused by brickwalled mastering. How does that change the listening experience?: The songs don’t overstay their welcome anymore, which makes their melodic charms more readily apparent. The production is still overblown, of course (undoubtedly an attempt to up the ante after (What’s The Story) Morning Glory) but the enhanced dynamic range does allow the arrangements to breathe a little more. For example It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) is a much more concise 5:13 Any idea where I could download it? also The Escapist and World71R |
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