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Post by uboasis on Dec 12, 2017 8:12:24 GMT -5
At first I was thinking it would be great if her backing vocals were added to the live arrangement but she seems great... Would be very cool to see her do lead vocals on it. I know it's a crazy idea but I think it would sound great.
Secondary benefit would be the publicity. I would love to hear that. It's not like he sang the original. I would never suggest it for DLBIA.
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Post by ricardogce on Dec 12, 2017 9:25:38 GMT -5
I think she would sound amazing on it, but even though Noel didn't sing the original, he wrote it, and he was in the band. It would be anticlimactic to let someone else sing it. I'm all for her taking the lead on a NGHFB song, though. Maybe even Dead In The Water.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 14:32:35 GMT -5
Would be very cool to see her do lead vocals on it u wot m8 |
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Post by ournoel775 on Jan 13, 2018 23:21:05 GMT -5
More from Jessica, yes please...
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Post by Fade In-Out on Feb 4, 2018 5:15:08 GMT -5
I think Noel should drop any Liam-sung songs from setlist and then we'll see
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Post by sfsorrow on Feb 4, 2018 10:27:57 GMT -5
I think Noel should drop any Liam-sung songs from setlist and then we'll see I assume you also think that Liam should drop any Noel-written songs from his setlist. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 4, 2018 10:58:31 GMT -5
I think Noel should drop any Liam-sung songs from setlist and then we'll see I assume you also think that Liam should drop any Noel-written songs from his setlist. I don’t know why you think they are same thing. Noel should and will sing whatever he wants but reversing the situation in the way you have isn’t the same thing. |
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Post by sfsorrow on Feb 4, 2018 11:41:07 GMT -5
I assume you also think that Liam should drop any Noel-written songs from his setlist. I don’t know why you think they are same thing. Noel should and will sing whatever he wants but reversing the situation in the way you have isn’t the same thing. We have been back and forth on this very issue before. I suppose the central conflict arises out of the fact that I believe in the existence of analogies and you don't seem to. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 4, 2018 12:02:12 GMT -5
I don’t know why you think they are same thing. Noel should and will sing whatever he wants but reversing the situation in the way you have isn’t the same thing. We have been back and forth on this very issue before. I suppose the central conflict arises out of the fact that I believe in the existence of analogies and you don't seem to. I just don’t think it’s a very good analogy. You can be a great song writer and not necessarily be able to to justice to those songs with your voice, Noel has basically admitted this himself by his setlist choices and comments on why he doesn’t do certain songs. That isn’t a dig a Noel, that was beauty of having Liam alongside him. I don’t agree that he should drop Liam sung songs, he wrote them and he can sing what he wants but that doesn’t mean he can carry them all off. |
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Post by sfsorrow on Feb 4, 2018 12:13:05 GMT -5
We have been back and forth on this very issue before. I suppose the central conflict arises out of the fact that I believe in the existence of analogies and you don't seem to. I just don’t think it’s a very good analogy. You can be a great song writer and not necessarily be able to to justice to those songs with your voice, Noel has basically admitted this himself by his setlist choices and comments on why he doesn’t do certain songs. That isn’t a dig a Noel, that was beauty of having Liam alongside him. I don’t agree that he should drop Liam sung songs, he wrote them and he can sing what he wants but that doesn’t mean he can carry them all off. Fair enough but I didn't know why Fade In-Out made that suggestion, which is why I asked the question. If his reason is that Noel can't pull off any of the songs that someone else sang on record but can somehow pull off the songs he has sung on record, then I can understand your point, though I don't think it's a particularly good stance. Yes, some songwriters can't pull off their own songs and usually that means all of their songs. But Noel can pull off songs and he didn't seem to write specifically for Liam's voice so I'm not sure I find that argument convincing. I think the reason why he doesn't sing a song like Live Forever is not necessarily that he can't do it justice (even if that's what he himself says) but that it's so associated with Liam that it would seem odd. And there's something to that, I suppose. However, if Fade In-Out's argument is that Noel shouldn't sing any song Liam sang strictly because they are associated with Liam, then a plausible counter-argument is that Liam shouldn't sing any song that is associated with Noel, meaning all the songs he wrote. |
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Post by Fade In-Out on Feb 4, 2018 15:18:10 GMT -5
I just don’t think it’s a very good analogy. You can be a great song writer and not necessarily be able to to justice to those songs with your voice, Noel has basically admitted this himself by his setlist choices and comments on why he doesn’t do certain songs. That isn’t a dig a Noel, that was beauty of having Liam alongside him. I don’t agree that he should drop Liam sung songs, he wrote them and he can sing what he wants but that doesn’t mean he can carry them all off. Fair enough but I didn't know why Fade In-Out made that suggestion, which is why I asked the question. If his reason is that Noel can't pull off any of the songs that someone else sang on record but can somehow pull off the songs he has sung on record, then I can understand your point, though I don't think it's a particularly good stance. Yes, some songwriters can't pull off their own songs and usually that means all of their songs. But Noel can pull off songs and he didn't seem to write specifically for Liam's voice so I'm not sure I find that argument convincing. I think the reason why he doesn't sing a song like Live Forever is not necessarily that he can't do it justice (even if that's what he himself says) but that it's so associated with Liam that it would seem odd. And there's something to that, I suppose. However, if Fade In-Out's argument is that Noel shouldn't sing any song Liam sang strictly because they are associated with Liam, then a plausible counter-argument is that Liam shouldn't sing any song that is associated with Noel, meaning all the songs he wrote. My point was that many liam-sung songs Noel performs just sound like shit live, especially Champagne supernova, which really makes me want to murder people, he has the right to sing them as he wrote them, like Liam has the right to sing them as he was the one they were wrote for(we're talking about the 3 first albums). And i think that your counter-argument is really stupid tho, because "all the songs he(Noel) wrote" aren't associated with Noel, excepted dlbia, etc... |
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Post by sfsorrow on Feb 4, 2018 20:27:52 GMT -5
Fair enough but I didn't know why Fade In-Out made that suggestion, which is why I asked the question. If his reason is that Noel can't pull off any of the songs that someone else sang on record but can somehow pull off the songs he has sung on record, then I can understand your point, though I don't think it's a particularly good stance. Yes, some songwriters can't pull off their own songs and usually that means all of their songs. But Noel can pull off songs and he didn't seem to write specifically for Liam's voice so I'm not sure I find that argument convincing. I think the reason why he doesn't sing a song like Live Forever is not necessarily that he can't do it justice (even if that's what he himself says) but that it's so associated with Liam that it would seem odd. And there's something to that, I suppose. However, if Fade In-Out's argument is that Noel shouldn't sing any song Liam sang strictly because they are associated with Liam, then a plausible counter-argument is that Liam shouldn't sing any song that is associated with Noel, meaning all the songs he wrote. My point was that many liam-sung songs Noel performs just sound like shit live, especially Champagne supernova, which really makes me want to murder people, he has the right to sing them as he wrote them, like Liam has the right to sing them as he was the one they were wrote for(we're talking about the 3 first albums). And i think that your counter-argument is really stupid tho, because "all the songs he(Noel) wrote" aren't associated with Noel, excepted dlbia, etc... They are associated with him in the sense that he wrote them and was the primary figure in realizing them. |
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Post by Fade In-Out on Feb 5, 2018 11:34:09 GMT -5
My point was that many liam-sung songs Noel performs just sound like shit live, especially Champagne supernova, which really makes me want to murder people, he has the right to sing them as he wrote them, like Liam has the right to sing them as he was the one they were wrote for(we're talking about the 3 first albums). And i think that your counter-argument is really stupid tho, because "all the songs he(Noel) wrote" aren't associated with Noel, excepted dlbia, etc... They are associated with him in the sense that he wrote them and was the primary figure in realizing them. I don't think so, that is not my definition of associated, to me dlbia is associated to noel, and Champagne supernova and the vast majority(minus 2) of the 3 first albums are associated to Liam. |
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Post by sfsorrow on Feb 5, 2018 11:49:12 GMT -5
They are associated with him in the sense that he wrote them and was the primary figure in realizing them. I don't think so, that is not my definition of associated, to me dlbia is associated to noel, and Champagne supernova and the vast majority(minus 2) of the 3 first albums are associated to Liam. Fair enough though for me, writing the music, the melody, the words, and being the main figure in the band responsible for the production of the song suggests a much larger association than merely singing it. But I recognize that it's subjective. |
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Post by Fade In-Out on Feb 5, 2018 16:05:48 GMT -5
I don't think so, that is not my definition of associated, to me dlbia is associated to noel, and Champagne supernova and the vast majority(minus 2) of the 3 first albums are associated to Liam. Fair enough though for me, writing the music, the melody, the words, and being the main figure in the band responsible for the production of the song suggests a much larger association than merely singing it. But I recognize that it's subjective. Haha merely singing most of our anthems, you defo are funny man! But i get your point here it's all subjective let's not go further  |
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