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Post by draper on Dec 5, 2017 10:43:48 GMT -5
I can't open that itunes link but here's a bit on youtube
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 5, 2017 11:57:39 GMT -5
I can't open that itunes link but here's a bit on youtube Elton always seemed like a proper dude. Never thought in a million years he’d be into Oasis type music nor hosting a podcast on Apple. Guy doesn’t need the work or money.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Dec 5, 2017 12:11:51 GMT -5
I can't open that itunes link but here's a bit on youtube Elton always seemed like a proper dude. Never thought in a million years he’d be into Oasis type music nor hosting a podcast on Apple. Guy doesn’t need the work or money. Mental dude. I did some work with a producer/engineer called Andy Green and he did some work on some Elton John stuff in the past. He said that everything would be going smoothly and then all of a sudden Elton would go absolutely mental, start smashing up loads of stuff and then return a few hours later as if nothing even happened, be the coolest/nicest guy ever and get back to recording haha.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Dec 5, 2017 12:22:38 GMT -5
Elton always seemed like a proper dude. Never thought in a million years he’d be into Oasis type music nor hosting a podcast on Apple. Guy doesn’t need the work or money. Mental dude. I did some work with a producer/engineer called Andy Green and he did some work on some Elton John stuff in the past. He said that everything would be going smoothly and then all of a sudden Elton would go absolutely mental, start smashing up loads of stuff and then return a few hours later as if nothing even happened, be the coolest/nicest guy ever and get back to recording haha. It's not that surprising Elton would be into Oasis type songs. After all, he once shared a flat with John Lennon, they did a song together, and most significant of all, Lennon played live at Elton's gig. Sadly it would be the last time Lennon would ever appear live on stage again. Elton once said Lennon was the only musician he really looked up to.
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Post by jxing on Dec 5, 2017 12:29:53 GMT -5
I've met him at an AIDS benefit, he's actually very shy. Although, he does have a "diva" mentality. And he's very petite. ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/6578f368014ebe0a3b3072128d5f877f.jpg)
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Post by Headmaster on Dec 5, 2017 19:33:23 GMT -5
Good interview, Elton liked the album and coming from him this is a great compliment.
Elton criticized Oasis once in the past saying that Oasis could have been bigger in USA and he was right.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 6, 2017 8:56:46 GMT -5
i am the rocket man, elton
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Post by pliolite on Dec 6, 2017 18:31:33 GMT -5
Good interview, Elton liked the album and coming from him this is a great compliment. Elton criticized Oasis once in the past saying that Oasis could have been bigger in USA and he was right. Liam and Noel would agree with that though. They deliberately screwed their chances of making it 'big' in America because they would have needed to eat way too much shit for their liking. I'm so glad they threw that side of things away. What would it have achieved?? A few more million in the bank? The music wouldn't have been any better.
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Post by Kirk Lazarus on Dec 6, 2017 18:35:29 GMT -5
I've met him at an AIDS benefit, he's actually very shy. Although, he does have a "diva" mentality. And he's very petite. ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/6578f368014ebe0a3b3072128d5f877f.jpg) Are you Billie Jean King? God bless.
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Post by matt on Dec 6, 2017 18:58:56 GMT -5
Equating a producers job of artistic influence to co-songwriting is desperate even by this forums standards!
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Post by ricardogce on Dec 6, 2017 19:50:31 GMT -5
Equating a producers job of artistic influence to co-songwriting is desperate even by this forums standards! Holmes' role on WBTM, even by Noel's own account, was much more involved than a producer's usual role. Certainly not on the level of co-writing, but also far beyond anything Morris or Sardy ever did.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 6, 2017 20:36:15 GMT -5
Equating a producers job of artistic influence to co-songwriting is desperate even by this forums standards! Holmes' role on WBTM, even by Noel's own account, was much more involved than a producer's usual role. Certainly not on the level of co-writing, but also far beyond anything Morris or Sardy ever did. James Murphy would like to have a talk with you about David Holmes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 20:42:23 GMT -5
Noel actually looks the same age as Elton in that interview. Reading Liam's Twitter has put about twenty years on him.
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Post by ricardogce on Dec 6, 2017 21:10:23 GMT -5
Holmes' role on WBTM, even by Noel's own account, was much more involved than a producer's usual role. Certainly not on the level of co-writing, but also far beyond anything Morris or Sardy ever did. James Murphy would like to have a talk with you about David Holmes. Didn't Murphy call Holmes the ultimate idea man or something similar?
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Post by Headmaster on Dec 6, 2017 22:18:18 GMT -5
Elton is very well known for his hits and all, but I recomend listening to the album Madman Across The Water, it's his Be Here Now in the sense of grandiosity and lenghty tracks, it's the album where he let himself go, not worring about hits or songs for radio, even fucking Rick Wakeman play organs on it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 6, 2017 22:37:17 GMT -5
James Murphy would like to have a talk with you about David Holmes. Didn't Murphy call Holmes the ultimate idea man or something similar? “But David was this guy who wasn’t really an engineer, he wasn’t a musician, he was just an idea guy. He was like, ‘I want to make a record like Can.’ And I was like, ‘You realize that Can was teachers from the Mozarteum who played eight hours a day together? That’s not a formula that’s easy to replicate.’ But here he was calling people like Richard McGuire from Liquid Liquid and getting that done. I was dumbfounded! ‘You just called?’ And he was like, yeah. It was really an eye-opener: Why am I not just doing these things I want to do? Why am I sitting around moaning about how things aren’t the way I want them to be when I should just fucking do it? David was a real role model in a way. He just does things. He’s got balls. I was like, ‘I’ll practice with my band for six months before we’ll play a show and you don’t even play an instrument and you’re making your third album! I’m an idiot.’” They had a massive falling out over the bossing around of Holmes to Murphy. Murphy didn’t respect the fact that David couldn’t actually create any music himself while James could play all instruments, produce a record, mix a record, promote a record as a one man force of nature. Murphy also got into heavier drugs from Holmes. All of this is documented in the excellent book “Meet Me In The Bathroom”.
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Post by 2besomeone on Dec 7, 2017 16:58:04 GMT -5
Didn't Murphy call Holmes the ultimate idea man or something similar? “But David was this guy who wasn’t really an engineer, he wasn’t a musician, he was just an idea guy. He was like, ‘I want to make a record like Can.’ And I was like, ‘You realize that Can was teachers from the Mozarteum who played eight hours a day together? That’s not a formula that’s easy to replicate.’ But here he was calling people like Richard McGuire from Liquid Liquid and getting that done. I was dumbfounded! ‘You just called?’ And he was like, yeah. It was really an eye-opener: Why am I not just doing these things I want to do? Why am I sitting around moaning about how things aren’t the way I want them to be when I should just fucking do it? David was a real role model in a way. He just does things. He’s got balls. I was like, ‘I’ll practice with my band for six months before we’ll play a show and you don’t even play an instrument and you’re making your third album! I’m an idiot.’” They had a massive falling out over the bossing around of Holmes to Murphy. Murphy didn’t respect the fact that David couldn’t actually create any music himself while James could play all instruments, produce a record, mix a record, promote a record as a one man force of nature. Murphy also got into heavier drugs from Holmes. All of this is documented in the excellent book “Meet Me In The Bathroom”. The first time Murphy took ecstasy and Holmes was DJing and dropped the needle on tomorrow never knows when Murphy was peaking... great story “I watched his life completely change in that moment and it was beautiful.” Such a good read that book. Highly recommend it.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 7, 2017 17:27:09 GMT -5
Elton is very well known for his hits and all, but I recomend listening to the album Madman Across The Water, it's his Be Here Now in the sense of grandiosity and lenghty tracks, it's the album where he let himself go, not worring about hits or songs for radio, even fucking Rick Wakeman play organs on it. Do you have any idea how much coke Elton did at that time? Mountains.
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Post by neila83 on Dec 10, 2017 13:05:34 GMT -5
Equating a producers job of artistic influence to co-songwriting is desperate even by this forums standards! Holmes' role on WBTM, even by Noel's own account, was much more involved than a producer's usual role. Certainly not on the level of co-writing, but also far beyond anything Morris or Sardy ever did. The problem with this is using Morris as an example of 'producing'. Producers are supposed to do far more than they ever did with Oasis, which I think is why a lot of people don't understand Holmes role. Plenty of bands have producers extremely involved in the creative process, there's nothing unusual about it. I know its a cliched example, but Holmes didn't do anything that George Martin didn't do 50 years ago.
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Post by ricardogce on Dec 10, 2017 13:55:40 GMT -5
Holmes' role on WBTM, even by Noel's own account, was much more involved than a producer's usual role. Certainly not on the level of co-writing, but also far beyond anything Morris or Sardy ever did. The problem with this is using Morris as an example of 'producing'. Producers are supposed to do far more than they ever did with Oasis, which I think is why a lot of people don't understand Holmes role. Plenty of bands have producers extremely involved in the creative process, there's nothing unusual about it. I know its a cliched example, but Holmes didn't do anything that George Martin didn't do 50 years ago. George Martin didn't restrict the Beatles from writing on their own, nor did he order them to write solely in the studio, or to play certain instruments. He was a facilitator: He could read and write music, he had a classical background, and he could help bring their ideas to reality. Holmes initially rejected working with Noel because Noel wanted him to produce existing tracks and Holmes wanted to be part of the album's conception instead. That's more than Martin ever did, and that's taking into account that Martin literally composed bits for several Beatles songs.
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