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Post by lg on Nov 25, 2017 15:26:11 GMT -5
Both great but i think ayw is better
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 18, 2017 22:14:49 GMT -5
Team WBTM
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 18, 2017 22:25:56 GMT -5
This is a good question. Debut vs debut. I think Noel’s debut has the higher ceiling songs but I think I prefer the overall flow of As You Were more. I hardly ever listen to songs like If I Had A Gun, Record Machine or Stop The Clocks. I love the live version of EOTR but the studio take has too many gimmicks for my taste. Maybe songs from AYW will fade with time but right now it’s the shiny new toy.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Dec 18, 2017 22:42:25 GMT -5
AYW for me - every day of the week
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2017 0:38:13 GMT -5
I even like Liam's artwork more.
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Post by jupi on Dec 21, 2017 11:25:36 GMT -5
I'm shocked that As You Were is leading the poll.  I mean, it's a good album, but HFB has much stronger material, it's cinematic and a coherent whole. NGHFB sets the bar with Everybody's on the Run takes to an epic journey whereas Liam's debut is a series of simple rockers and ballads. And that's the most notable difference for me: I always listen to NGHFB from start to finish (or maybe skip STC) but I find myself listening only certain songs of AYW. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 21, 2017 11:58:36 GMT -5
As You Were.
Have never liked Noel's debut. It's the first side that does it: I only like two of the five songs on there--not a good start! Thankfully, there's a great run of tracks in the middle from What a Life! to Broken Arrow (and Wrong Beach isn't bad either) that saves it, but it's still not a great record. Neither is Liam's, I guess, but the production being less retro and Liam's voice being much more colourful than Noel's makes it a more enjoyable listen, for me.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 23, 2017 9:28:50 GMT -5
I'm shocked that As You Were is leading the poll. I mean, it's a good album, but HFB has much stronger material, it's cinematic and a coherent whole. NGHFB sets the bar with Everybody's on the Run takes to an epic journey whereas Liam's debut is a series of simple rockers and ballads. And that's the most notable difference for me: I always listen to NGHFB from start to finish (or maybe skip STC) but I find myself listening only certain songs of AYW. The bar is set high with EOTR and then immediately lowered a considerable distance by Dream On. The demo's of STC and Record Machine are superior and the singles while I acknowledge are good songs aren't really my cup of tea. As You Were might have less moments of greatness but taken as whole its still an enjoyable experience to listen all the way through. Liam sings it all too which helps any collection of songs. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 23, 2017 15:39:36 GMT -5
I'm shocked that As You Were is leading the poll. I mean, it's a good album, but HFB has much stronger material, it's cinematic and a coherent whole. NGHFB sets the bar with Everybody's on the Run takes to an epic journey whereas Liam's debut is a series of simple rockers and ballads. And that's the most notable difference for me: I always listen to NGHFB from start to finish (or maybe skip STC) but I find myself listening only certain songs of AYW. The bar is set high with EOTR and then immediately lowered a considerable distance by Dream On. The demo's of STC and Record Machine are superior and the singles while I acknowledge are good songs aren't really my cup of tea. As You Were might have less moments of greatness but taken as whole its still an enjoyable experience to listen all the way through. Liam sings it all too which helps any collection of songs. I think having heard half the album ( EOTR, IIHAG, RM, STC) long before it’s release kinda hurt our perception of the album and built up unfair expectations on how songs would sound. I don’t really fancy any of the production on those tunes. |
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 8, 2018 14:04:26 GMT -5
As You Were since it's the reason I've started to look into the Oasis catalog. I've seen the official vids for HFB but nothing grabs me :/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 15:11:04 GMT -5
I prefer As You Were, but since Noel made his all by himself, I voted for NGHFB.
(Just kidding.)
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Post by nicster on Jan 13, 2018 15:46:38 GMT -5
Hahaha... wondering if I´m the only one on earth who really hates "Holy mountain" ? ;-)
So, no HFB for me.
AYW !
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2018 17:42:06 GMT -5
Hahaha... wondering if I´m the only one on earth who really hates "Holy mountain" ? ;-) So, no HFB for me. AYW ! Holy Mountain isn't on Noel's debut  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2018 17:44:05 GMT -5
As You Were. Have never liked Noel's debut. It's the first side that does it: I only like two of the five songs on there--not a good start! Thankfully, there's a great run of tracks in the middle from What a Life! to Broken Arrow (and Wrong Beach isn't bad either) that saves it, but it's still not a great record. Neither is Liam's, I guess, but the production being less retro and Liam's voice being much more colourful than Noel's makes it a more enjoyable listen, for me. I don't fancy the production on either album that much. HFB sounds so retro indeed and not in a good way, but AYW sounds so top40 like and kind of unimaginative. |
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Post by caro on Jan 17, 2018 10:50:40 GMT -5
I really like AYW and listen to it more than WBTM. However NGHFB is magnificent. Listening to it right now and enjoying every song. Noel can really create a feel and a world. At least he did for me in his debut album.
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Post by nicster on Jan 21, 2018 6:30:20 GMT -5
Hahaha... wondering if I´m the only one on earth who really hates "Holy mountain" ? ;-) So, no HFB for me. AYW ! Holy Mountain isn't on Noel's debut How not to agree with that ?  But do you know this feeling when one song that really gets on your nerves ( and is currently so massively airplayed ) spoils it all?  for a certain amount of time, of course - not eternally! But still no Song of Noel got me as much as the first time I´ve heard "Wall of glass" - and the waiting time for AYW was worth every single second - for me  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2018 9:26:14 GMT -5
I wish noel dumped STC and RM for other songs. Save those for an Oasis anthology. Totally not needed on his debut.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2018 4:56:31 GMT -5
I wish noel dumped STC and RM for other songs. Save those for an Oasis anthology. Totally not needed on his debut. Yeah the demo's are better and I think adding ASGOG and LTLSALOM would have made it a better record. |
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Post by matt on Feb 17, 2018 11:05:26 GMT -5
Has High Flying Birds debut aged well? I'm not so sure, especially with dreadful production like that. I loved it when it came out and for a good while afterwards. But I'm really struggling to see these days whether these songs are all just rather one-note, mid tempo and plodding or whether it was a good collection of tunes destroyed by terrible production. Bonafide great tunes that I am certain of include Everybody's On The Run, Death of You & Me and Broken Arrow, but the rest fade into insignificance. I just don't have the patience to go back and listen to it these days.
I think Who Built The Moon is fantastic and it is my favourite post-Oasis album but Liam's As You Were is just a really well polished album with a bit more variety for me, so in terms of 'battle of the debuts' it wins. It is also the second best post-Oasis album after Who Built The Moon - incredible feat in that they were just months apart too.
In fact I would go as far as saying I'd quite easily take these two albums over anything Oasis released after Be Here Now.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 17, 2018 11:20:37 GMT -5
Has High Flying Birds debut aged well? I'm not so sure, especially with dreadful production like that. I loved it when it came out and for a good while afterwards. But I'm really struggling to see these days whether these songs are all just rather one-note, mid tempo and plodding or whether it was a good collection of tunes destroyed by terrible production. Bonafide great tunes that I am certain of include Everybody's On The Run, Death of You & Me and Broken Arrow, but the rest fade into insignificance. I just don't have the patience to go back and listen to it these days. I think Who Built The Moon is fantastic and it is my favourite post-Oasis album but Liam's As You Were is just a really well polished album with a bit more variety for me, so in terms of 'battle of the debuts' it wins. It is also the second best post-Oasis album after Who Built The Moon - incredible feat in that they were just months apart too. In fact I would go as far as saying I'd quite easily take these two albums over anything Oasis released after Be Here Now. You nailed it in your last paragraph. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 10, 2018 21:12:13 GMT -5
I wish noel dumped STC and RM for other songs. Save those for an Oasis anthology. Totally not needed on his debut. His first solo album was just pandering to the Oasis fanbase. Other than discarding Liam it showed there was utterly zero reason to disband Oasis. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 10, 2018 22:06:58 GMT -5
I wish noel dumped STC and RM for other songs. Save those for an Oasis anthology. Totally not needed on his debut. His first solo album was just pandering to the Oasis fanbase. Other than discarding Liam it showed there was utterly zero reason to disband Oasis. Well it was better than any post BHN album. So yeah it kinda was. Noel writing all the tunes is always best. |
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Post by matt on Mar 11, 2018 11:23:35 GMT -5
I wish noel dumped STC and RM for other songs. Save those for an Oasis anthology. Totally not needed on his debut. Other than discarding Liam it showed there was utterly zero reason to disband Oasis. Yeah because everyone was crying out for more shiters from Gem and Andy. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 17, 2020 13:47:42 GMT -5
As You Were. Even though I'm not a massive fan of Noel Gallagher's Flying Birds and prefer the demo versions of the songs I don't hate the album.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 17, 2020 15:07:56 GMT -5
Now that really is a tough one.
NGHFB is my favourite of Noel's three albums and I still really like it, especially its songwriting. Production lets it down in places and some songs I think Liam would sing better, but its by far the NGHFB album i listen to most.
AYW was a stronger and more consistent album than I ever expected it to be, and I still come back to it a lot.
I think I'd have to rate them the same, about 8.5 out of 10.
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I mean, it's a good album, but HFB has much stronger material, it's cinematic and a coherent whole. NGHFB sets the bar with Everybody's on the Run takes to an epic journey whereas Liam's debut is a series of simple rockers and ballads. And that's the most notable difference for me: I always listen to NGHFB from start to finish (or maybe skip STC) but I find myself listening only certain songs of AYW.
But do you know this feeling when one song that really gets on your nerves ( and is currently so massively airplayed ) spoils it all? 
for a certain amount of time, of course - not eternally!
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