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Post by spaneli on May 2, 2019 11:54:20 GMT -5
Three EPs, eh? I like that, hopefully we get a different flavour on each one. People want a modern release strategy? Noel is doing it. The EP release strategy has become super common now and very safe for artists who have to stay on the road (which is every artist now) but don't to dedicate the bandwith to the usual album timeline. Once the 3 EPs are released, Noel's people will probably package them all together with a couple of extra songs added on top. Edit: with an album coming out in part of that March (March/October) window Noel talks about. |
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Post by lg on May 2, 2019 11:54:25 GMT -5
3 ep? ffs , i ain't that rich
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 11:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on May 2, 2019 11:58:24 GMT -5
3 EPs? I like that  |
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Post by shannee on May 2, 2019 12:00:40 GMT -5
3 ep? ffs , i ain't that rich I won’t buy them all on vinyl. But I like the idea of a steady stream of new releases. Gives me something to look forward to. At Xmas time I’ll consider the vinyls if they do a box set or special release |
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Post by batfink30 on May 2, 2019 12:01:04 GMT -5
Noel needs to write melodies first,thats how he writes songs. This going into the studio and making it up on the fly isn't him, it's not his style of creating a song and it shows. He can do great dance tunes around melodies he's already written like Setting Sun. ...he wrote Setting Sun how many odd years ago? Here's my issue with the studio writing debate. It presupposes that if Noel shouldn't because he's better at _____. But Noel hasn't been a truly "great" songwriter for ages. Maybe. Just maybe. The issue isn't the method of writing, but the stage of his writing. Like, he could begin with a melody first and you're still gonna get The Mexican or even IIHAG. Is IIHAG, a "proper" melody (probably one of his more beautiful melodies) that much better than the stuff off of WBTM? I don't think so. Heck, IIHAG might be the most forced pastiche thing he's ever written. The issue is that Noel doesn't write songs that 9s or 10s anymore. No matter the method or the genre. He writes 7s and the occasional 8s. What some are saying is that we'd rather hear those 7s and occasinal 8s in a different style. And either people are down for the genre or not, but the quality hasn't fallen off a cliff like some are making it out to be, the style has just shifted. And the quality of what Noel is writing wouldn't change all that much, it'd just fit a style that some prefer more. Writing the music before working out the melody creates different music. His talent appears to be thinking up melodies, not banging around on a bass for hours looking for "something" IMHO. |
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Post by popeyebonaparte on May 2, 2019 12:02:33 GMT -5
I suppose we'll get a CD at the end of the year then...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 12:04:02 GMT -5
Ep for guys in anoraks? Maybe he wants the 'parka monkeys' back  |
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Post by spaneli on May 2, 2019 12:04:25 GMT -5
...he wrote Setting Sun how many odd years ago? Here's my issue with the studio writing debate. It presupposes that if Noel shouldn't because he's better at _____. But Noel hasn't been a truly "great" songwriter for ages. Maybe. Just maybe. The issue isn't the method of writing, but the stage of his writing. Like, he could begin with a melody first and you're still gonna get The Mexican or even IIHAG. Is IIHAG, a "proper" melody (probably one of his more beautiful melodies) that much better than the stuff off of WBTM? I don't think so. Heck, IIHAG might be the most forced pastiche thing he's ever written. The issue is that Noel doesn't write songs that 9s or 10s anymore. No matter the method or the genre. He writes 7s and the occasional 8s. What some are saying is that we'd rather hear those 7s and occasinal 8s in a different style. And either people are down for the genre or not, but the quality hasn't fallen off a cliff like some are making it out to be, the style has just shifted. And the quality of what Noel is writing wouldn't change all that much, it'd just fit a style that some prefer more. Writing the music before working out the melody creates different music. His talent appears to be thinking up melodies, not banging around on a bass for hours looking for "something" IMHO. Once again, I don't think the two styles create two wildly different qualities. Different sounds and songs, yes. But the quality is still relatively the same imo. |
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Post by mossy on May 2, 2019 12:38:10 GMT -5
Love how the insufferable Johnny Vaughan changes the way he pronounces Bowie after Noel corrects him. X |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 2, 2019 12:39:26 GMT -5
I see some of y'all are still the same. Thankful that some of yall aren't artists. Jesus some of y'all really do think that the Beatles have made 7 out of the 10 greatest albums of all time? Open your eyes and ears folks, but more importantly subvert your expectations for what you demand from artists. They don't owe you shit. Life moves on, artists move on, you should grow too. It's actually kinda fun. I get this isn't the Noel you fell in love with in 94 at King Tuts, but I'm happy he isn't that coke snorting drunkard anymore, he'd be dead. I'm so glad Noel is maturing as a songwriter and artist as he is nearing 51. He could be dead, he could stop releasing music, but instead over the past decade and change he has really had a second golden age as an artist. I'm not asking anyone to like it who doesn't, but I am asking for some of you to have some perspective on this. Though he is my favorite songwriter of all-time, if you would have asked me 2006 (when I joined this forum) how I would have ranked Noel, Damon Albarn, and Thom Yorke in terms of critical, commercial, and cultural success. I woulda have ranked Noel last out of them, but in the 13 years since he has vaulted up to the top with consistent releases, while Thom's material is pretty forgettable and Damon needs to relearn the science of quality control. The song didn't blow my socks off, but I love Noel and I'm thankful for new Noel whenever I get it, even more impressed that the dude seems to be having more fun and being more liberal with his influences within his music in his 50's than he did in his 20's. Never thought a conservative guy like Noel would go down this path its fucking awesome. Sorry some of y'all are too old or not tall enough for this rollercoaster. Peace and love y'all. Good to read and see some old faces. You know who you are. In regard to the bolded section its a little ridiculous to level that at people who aren't in love with Black Star Dancing. I'm glad Noel is pushing himself, still trying different things. The thought of him releasing The Dying of The Light type songs forever is a nightmare scenario for me personally. So while I appreciate the effort I think the end result is dissapointing. I hope he sticks with it. |
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Post by MONO on May 2, 2019 12:41:53 GMT -5
3 EP's this year and each of them priced like a regular album? F**k you Noel.
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Post by Tongueless Ghost Of Sin on May 2, 2019 12:45:13 GMT -5
Love this new song. Not sure what people are hearing to make them think it's some kind of radical departure. Like WBTM it's same old Noel just with a little more embellishment and thought gone into the production side. Hell, this song sounds like Heat Of The Moment (which I also LOVE) part 2, it's not new territory for him.
Just logged in to see 3 EP's as well apparently. Colour me happy!
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Post by spaneli on May 2, 2019 13:01:45 GMT -5
Love this new song. Not sure what people are hearing to make them think it's some kind of radical departure. Like WBTM it's same old Noel just with a little more embellishment and thought gone into the production side. Hell, this song sounds like Heat Of The Moment (which I also LOVE) part 2, it's not new territory for him. Just logged in to see 3 EP's as well apparently. Colour me happy! This! The song is really close to a typical Noel song and melody... which makes the melody complaints feel odd. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 2, 2019 13:29:20 GMT -5
That "We can ride on! As part of the date, now..." bit is very melodic. I like that a lot. People saying they wish it built up more but I actually wish it built up less - the subdued, intimate bits work a lot better than the guitar solo and shout-y bits, to me. A solidly likeable 6/10 for me. Good, but nothing great.
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Post by freddy838 on May 2, 2019 13:33:12 GMT -5
I like the 3 EP idea, albeit admittedly I'm not a collector so not likely to get ripped off buying all 3. My preference would be a Howl-like acoustic album but second choice would be a variety of stuff. I may be alone but I'd love to hear Noel do an EP of Christmas songs. Probably not what he meant though.
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Post by shannee on May 2, 2019 13:58:47 GMT -5
I like the 3 EP idea, albeit admittedly I'm not a collector so not likely to get ripped off buying all 3. My preference would be a Howl-like acoustic album but second choice would be a variety of stuff. I may be alone but I'd love to hear Noel do an EP of Christmas songs. Probably not what he meant though. Coming at you this Xmas the NGHFB’s Christmas Ep. Side 1: I fookin’ hate Christmas but I’m cashin in. Side 2: I fookin’ hate Christmas but I’m cashin in (the remix) |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 2, 2019 14:09:29 GMT -5
The amount of bullshit people spit out on this forum...man, now I remember why I hadn't really been on here a lot lately.
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Post by shannee on May 2, 2019 14:19:45 GMT -5
The amount of bullshit people spit out on this forum...man, now I remember why I hadn't really been on here a lot lately. Have you ever been to the Morrissey forum? Holy shit, it’s crazy over there 😂 makes this place seem incredibly mellow |
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Post by batfink30 on May 2, 2019 14:35:18 GMT -5
The amount of bullshit people spit out on this forum...man, now I remember why I hadn't really been on here a lot lately. I take it you don't go on Twitter 😮😮😮😮 |
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Post by RUBIKON on May 2, 2019 14:44:25 GMT -5
That "We can ride on! As part of the date, now..." bit is very melodic. I like that a lot. People saying they wish it built up more but I actually wish it built up less - the subdued, intimate bits work a lot better than the guitar solo and shout-y bits, to me. A solidly likeable 6/10 for me. Good, but nothing great. Probably the fairest thing I’ve read on here all day. I understand people are stuck in 96 and want massive sing alongs but christ give the man credit for doing something different. Someone mentioning that this is the furthest thing you could get away from Supersonic is an absolute win for Noel! Exactly what he is trying to achieve. I’m really into this one! 7/10 Looking forward to the other two tracks on this EP and the next two EP’s to follow!! |
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 2, 2019 14:45:47 GMT -5
The amount of bullshit people spit out on this forum...man, now I remember why I hadn't really been on here a lot lately. Have you ever been to the Morrissey forum? Holy shit, it’s crazy over there 😂 makes this place seem incredibly mellow I can't imagine a music fan forum being goofier than this place.... Thanks. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on May 2, 2019 14:59:24 GMT -5
3 EPs  Have i woken Up in an alternative reality ? Does not make commercial sense to me for an artist like Noel, but what I know. Personally, love the idea |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 2, 2019 15:12:09 GMT -5
Thankful that some of yall aren't artists. Jesus some of y'all really do think that the Beatles have made 7 out of the 10 greatest albums of all time? Open your eyes and ears folks, but more importantly subvert your expectations for what you demand from artists. They don't owe you shit. Life moves on, artists move on, you should grow too. It's actually kinda fun. I agree with your point, but what's with all the talk about subverting expectations in the last years? How do I subvert my own expectations, does it involve hitting myself in the head with a hammer? Is it a good thing and if so, why? I'm pretty sure that appreciating new and different styles of music can't be forced, it just happens. When I was 16 I would hate everything without a classic guitar/drums sound, deeming it musically inferior. Some of that stuff I now like, some I still hate, some I still deem inferior. |
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Post by jmp111181 on May 2, 2019 15:26:09 GMT -5
3 EPs is the smartest thing he can do at this point. It allows him to chance down any style he wants to mess with, put out it out, and if you don't dig it, something new will come out shortly and maybe you'll dig that. It's better than waiting 2-3 years for the next album cycle only to have people hate whatever style he wants to work with for that record.
Now if we can do something about the cost of these EPs, we'll be good to go.
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