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Post by jxing on Nov 17, 2017 21:54:06 GMT -5
Germany radio Dlf culture Dlf Nova Dlf24 program broadcasts playlist Contact Media library Germany radio Saturday, 18.11.2017 Suchen search LIVE STREAM Since 01:05 clock Deutschlandfunk Radio Night DLF24 | news politics economy Knowledge Culture Europe society Sports Home Corso Sex, Drugs & Gartenscheren 18.11.2017, 15:05 clock Noel Gallagher dares musical new beginning sex, drugs & secateurs Oasis was the figurehead of "Brit-Pop" - and her boss was Noel Gallagher. After 70 million albums sold and disputes with Brother Liam Noel left behind as a solo artist. Why there are no rock stars today and grandiose failure is just as good as success, he says in the Dlf. Noel Gallagher in a corso talk with Marcel Anders
Listen to our contributions in the Dlf audio library Noel Gallagher von der britischen Band High Flying Birds bei einem Konzert in München 2016 (dpa / Sven Hoppe) Noel Gallagher starts with his new album the "Phase Two" of his career (dpa / Sven Hoppe) e-mail divide Tweet To press podcast MORE ON THE SUBJECT Noel Gallagher's second solo record "I did not have a name for the album" Paul Weller "The carrot cake is also heard in music" Liam Gallagher: "Noel can do what he wants" Oasis Documentation "Supersonic" "We were never Britpop" Modern rock music, according to Noel Gallagher, is a farce - just like its protagonists: long-haired, tattooed school dropouts with a lot of attitude, but little brain. The former Oasis boss underlines that things can be different with his third solo album "The Man Who Built The Moon", which will be released next Friday and in a corso talk with Marcel Anders.
Marcel Anders: Mr. Gallagher, there is this famous quote from you: "Anyone who has never thrown a television out the window does not know how fun it is." Is it still relevant?
Noel Gallagher: I have no idea why I said that. Because I do not think that I have ever done that. I like TV too much to separate myself in the way of them. I mean, I've seen colleagues - and found it ridiculous. Following the motto: "What a waste of energy! So uncool!" Rock musician today: "Bad hair and bad shoes" Anders: But is not that what rock stars do?
Gallagher: There are no rock stars anymore, especially not in England. With what Rockstar scolds today, you have to be careful not to laugh out loud. By contrast, the rock stars I grew up with really thought, "Wow, what are those guys?" David Bowie, Keith Richards, John Lydon - they were crazy. Today's rock musicians are either stupid and well over 40 - or they do not even write their own music and simply have nothing to say. They also have bad hair and bad shoes.
Anders: Then there is nobody left to look at it? Who would make a good idol?
Gallagher: Only those I've always looked up to - like Morrissey, Paul Weller, Johnny Marr, Paul McCartney or U2. The same guys I've always liked. And my respect for her has grown over the years. Only: There was nobody added.
Anders: What is it? Is it missing urgency? Or the fear of not behaving politically correct?
Gallagher: There are two simple fundamental reasons for this development: At the end of the 90s, record labels stopped working for their artists. They've turned the tables and made sure the bands work only for them. Today, most artists are so damned happy to even have a record deal that they do anything for it - and get completely bent. When we started with Oasis, it was more like, "We're doing you a damned fancy we're hiring on your label, and no different." It's a dirty business, man! But it works as long as there are people desperately seeking fame. When I started, I did not want to be famous, but rich. That was all that interested me. Fame is okay, he does not bother me - but he was never the driving force. "I'd rather go with a big bang" Anders: What about rock star Noel Gallagher? Does he still exist? Gallagher: I never thought I was a rock star. It may be that I am technically speaking. But these days I rather move outside the music business. When I left Oasis, I did not want a record deal anymore. And I still do not have that, because I prefer to handle my career the way I want it. For example, if I were signed to Universal, it would be guaranteed, "What the hell are you doing? We want records that sound like Noel Gallagher, and that's what people want, and we know that because we're through the social media have contact with them. " I do not play with it. I believe in artistic freedom and free expression - whatever that is. Anders: Do you sometimes regret what you said in the past?
Gallagher: Just a few things that may have been a bit too close to some of my colleagues. But I never regretted the artistic decisions that I made. And if this album turns out to be a flop, it's at least a spectacular flop. Say: I want either huge success or spectacular failure. I mean, when you build a rocket, what's more exciting is that it goes up in flames or tips over on the launch pad? I just want her to go up in flames. Because then I could at least say: "Wow, look at this" (laughs). I'd rather go with a big bang. Bruderzwist with Liam Anders: What about your brother Liam? Did you listen to his solo album or follow his interviews?
Gallagher: No. Liam (l.) und Noel Gallagher von der britischen Rockband Oasis bei einer Pressekonferenz 1999 in London, wo sie bekanntgaben, dass Bassist Paul "Guigsy" McGuigan angekündigt habe, die Band zu verlassen. (picture-alliance / dpa / epa PA Fiona Hanson) The brothers Liam and Noel Gallagher, who have once been united in Oasis, have been fighting for years (picture-alliance / dpa / epa PA Fiona Hanson)
Anders: He used his press appointments to demand an apology from you - for leaving him in the proverbial rain of separating from Oasis.
Gallagher: He still seems to be mad at me. Even if I can not understand that. And I do not care. Oasis is forgotten and over. If he sees it differently, that's his problem. I mean, what else should he talk about? How he wrote his new album? Man, he does not have a sound to answer for that. In that respect, I wish him all the best. At least as long as he completes the Gema forms at the end of his concerts. And as for Liam's continuing nostalgia over the evening in Paris we parted with: Chris and Gem were there. And they're playing with me again. They are members of the High Flying Birds. Do I have to say more? Maybe that's exactly what he's mad about. "Time for a new beginning" Anders: Their album "The Man Who Built the Moon" has something of a musical reinvention - with a hybrid of electronica and rock. Did you need a change? A change of scenery?
Gallagher: I did not realize it, but after the "Chasing Yesterday" tour, I felt I had reached the end of the flagpole. Following the motto: I have exhausted this thing, which I started in 1993, as far as I can. But now I do not feel like it anymore. And then David Holmes, my producer, was just right. He said: "Slowly it's time for a fresh start - for phase two". And this is this album: The second act. Someone has opened the door to another world behind which a French girl with cape and scissors hides (giggles).
Different: please?
Gallagher: Actually, she should only sing in my band. But then I said to her, "Can you play tambourine as well?" And to that she responded in this contemptuous way, as only French women can manage: "I do not play a tambourine, but scissors and have already done that in a band." I looked at it on YouTube and was thrilled. Now she does that to me - and she wears a black cape. That is completely crazy.
Anders: Are not you afraid to overburden your fans completely?
Gallagher: No! I have had enough success to do other records - and to face people who expect only one thing from me. To them I say, "You know what? You have not seen through me for a long time, and if you resent what I'm doing right now, that's your problem." I follow my sense of adventure, I do something that no one dares at the moment. And I have a great time. "I want beauty and truth" Anders: Do you have an explanation for the creative lull of rock music?
Gallagher: Because the artists are too much in the opinion of the fans. They communicate with them through social networks and can be over-influenced. Just like what the record company dictates to them. Or Live Nation, who control the concert market and dictate where to play. I do not participate - nobody owns me. Neither, which concerns my thoughts, my outfit, the composition of my band nor my program.
Anders: With all the fighting spirit: Why do the songs sound so optimistic - as a counterbalance to the current rock music?
Gallagher: When you realize what's going on in rock music today, that sense of fun and confidence is downright revolutionary. I mean, it's so easy to pick up the guitar and sing about what's in the news. Nevertheless, critics consider that to be intelligent, profound music. She is just boring! If I want to know what's going on in the world, I turn on the TV - but I do not hear music for that. When I do that, I want beauty and truth.
Anders: And that's why you prefer writing about girls?
Gallagher: That's what it's always been about: winning girls for themselves, having sex, taking drugs with them and dancing with them while you're on drugs. But with Dave Grohl or Green Day I think: Could you please stop screaming and moaning? This is true of all those American guys who are dressed in the same identities, have tattoos, wear earrings, and dye their hair. This has nothing to do with rock'n'roll - that's just bad. That's why I made an album like that - and I do not need leather jackets or wild roar. Rock'n'Roll has to do with freedom in terms of thinking and expression.
Anders: What awaits us on your upcoming tour? And more importantly, will the scissors player be there too?
Gallagher: She is definitely there - also as singer and keyboarder. I think the concerts will be a bit longer this time because I have so much material - three solo albums. When I play five pieces from each, I'm already at 15. And I'm almost obligated to bring half a dozen Oasis songs. Then we're at over 20. That's why the long concerts. Not in the spirit of Bruce Springsteen, but almost two hours. And when we come to you in April, we will be incredibly good. We then wear the hats of wizards and play with pruning shears! Noel Gallagher and his band High Flying Birds will be performing at five German concerts in the spring of 2018. His new album "The Man Who Built The Moon" will be released on 24.11.2017.
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Original German text: Gallagher: Er scheint mir immer noch böse zu sein. Contribute a better translation
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Post by jxing on Nov 17, 2017 21:56:14 GMT -5
Anders: He used his press appointments to demand an apology from you - for leaving him in the proverbial rain of separating from Oasis.
Gallagher: He still seems to be mad at me. Even if I can not understand that. And I do not care. Oasis is forgotten and over. If he sees it differently, that's his problem. I mean, what else should he talk about? How he wrote his new album? Man, he does not have a sound to answer for that. In that respect, I wish him all the best. At least as long as he completes the Gema forms at the end of his concerts. And as for Liam's continuing nostalgia over the evening in Paris we parted with: Chris and Gem were there. And they're playing with me again. They are members of the High Flying Birds. Do I have to say more? Maybe that's exactly what he's mad about.
So, does he plan on opening that can of worms or just looking at it. If I'm to believe him, then they're going to have to say something.
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Post by macnuggets on Nov 17, 2017 22:16:08 GMT -5
To be fair.. Andy, Gem and Chris were with Liam for nearly 5 years in Beady Eye, and that only ended because it was LIAM's decision.
Fast forward to 2017.. of course Gem and Chris are going to play with Noel again, what the fuck else are they going to do? No one cares or wants any more Heavy Stereo tunes, and Chris hadn't done anything since BE finished.. beats sitting around the house and at least they can get paid to play gigs again.
To answer Noel's question, yes, you do need to say more.
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Post by Manualex on Nov 17, 2017 22:16:33 GMT -5
Gallagher: She is definitely there - also as singer and keyboarder. I think the concerts will be a bit longer this time because I have so much material - three solo albums. When I play five pieces from each, I'm already at 15. And I'm almost obligated to bring half a dozen Oasis songs. Then we're at over 20. That's why the long concerts. Not in the spirit of Bruce Springsteen, but almost two hours. And when we come to you in April, we will be incredibly good. We then wear the hats of wizards and play with pruning shears! Noel Gallagher and his band High Flying Birds will be performing at five German concerts in the spring of 2018. His new album "The Man Who Built The Moon" will be released on 24.11.2017.
Bets on what songs he's going to play?
Assuming a 20 song setlist(lol)
Oasis Half the World Away DLBIA Little By Little The Masterplan
NGHFB Everybody's on The Run WAL Death Of You And Me Broken Arrow Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me
CY Riverman Heat of the moment Lock All The Doors The Right Stuff (would be bonkers if Noel doesnt does this one with two femald vocalists!) The Mexican
Moon Fort Knox(as opener) Holy Mountain It's a Beautiful World She taught me how to fly Black&White Sunshine Dead on The Water
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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2017 22:18:42 GMT -5
To be fair.. Andy, Gem and Chris were with Liam for nearly 5 years in Beady Eye, and that only ended because it was LIAM's decision. Fast forward to 2017.. of course Gem and Chris are going to play with Noel again, what the fuck else are they going to do? No one cares or wants any more Heavy Stereo tunes, and Chris hadn't done anything since BE finished.. beats sitting around the house and at least they can get paid to play gigs again. To answer Noel's question, yes, you do need to say more. This was point made by many on here when Beady Eye formed. Some took Gem and Chris joining Liam as a repudiation and confirmation of Noel being the problem with Oasis. To me, it can be that Gem and Chris both need a paycheck and are fine with either brother. Gem and Chris joining Beady Eye was never a mark against Noel just as it's not a mark against Liam.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2017 22:22:42 GMT -5
Gallagher: She is definitely there - also as singer and keyboarder. I think the concerts will be a bit longer this time because I have so much material - three solo albums. When I play five pieces from each, I'm already at 15. And I'm almost obligated to bring half a dozen Oasis songs. Then we're at over 20. That's why the long concerts. Not in the spirit of Bruce Springsteen, but almost two hours. And when we come to you in April, we will be incredibly good. We then wear the hats of wizards and play with pruning shears! Noel Gallagher and his band High Flying Birds will be performing at five German concerts in the spring of 2018. His new album "The Man Who Built The Moon" will be released on 24.11.2017. Bets on what songs he's going to play? Assuming a 20 song setlist(lol) Oasis Half the World Away DLBIA Little By Little The Masterplan NGHFB Everybody's on The Run WAL Death Of You And Me Broken Arrow Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me CY Riverman Heat of the moment Lock All The Doors The Right Stuff (would be bonkers if Noel doesnt does this one with two femald vocalists!) The Mexican Moon Fort Knox(as opener) Holy Mountain It's a Beautiful World She taught me how to fly Black&White Sunshine Dead on The Water Recently, Noel has said that he was thinking of playing nearly every song from WBTM live. Also, I believe at York Hall he played, Be Careful What you Wish for.
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Post by lalaland on Nov 17, 2017 22:32:29 GMT -5
Gallagher: She is definitely there - also as singer and keyboarder. I think the concerts will be a bit longer this time because I have so much material - three solo albums. When I play five pieces from each, I'm already at 15. And I'm almost obligated to bring half a dozen Oasis songs. Then we're at over 20. That's why the long concerts. Not in the spirit of Bruce Springsteen, but almost two hours. And when we come to you in April, we will be incredibly good. We then wear the hats of wizards and play with pruning shears! Noel Gallagher and his band High Flying Birds will be performing at five German concerts in the spring of 2018. His new album "The Man Who Built The Moon" will be released on 24.11.2017. Bets on what songs he's going to play? Assuming a 20 song setlist(lol) Oasis Half the World Away DLBIA Little By Little The Masterplan NGHFB Everybody's on The Run WAL Death Of You And Me Broken Arrow Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me CY Riverman Heat of the moment Lock All The Doors The Right Stuff (would be bonkers if Noel doesnt does this one with two femald vocalists!) The Mexican Moon Fort Knox(as opener) Holy Mountain It's a Beautiful World She taught me how to fly Black&White Sunshine Dead on The Water I'd say add Shlampagne Shupernova, IIHAG and maybe BOTMY and that's a good prediction?!
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Post by jxing on Nov 17, 2017 22:42:58 GMT -5
To be fair.. Andy, Gem and Chris were with Liam for nearly 5 years in Beady Eye, and that only ended because it was LIAM's decision. Fast forward to 2017.. of course Gem and Chris are going to play with Noel again, what the fuck else are they going to do? No one cares or wants any more Heavy Stereo tunes, and Chris hadn't done anything since BE finished.. beats sitting around the house and at least they can get paid to play gigs again. To answer Noel's question, yes, you do need to say more. This was point made by many on here when Beady Eye formed. Some took Gem and Chris joining Liam as a repudiation and confirmation of Noel being the problem with Oasis. To me, it can be that Gem and Chris both need a paycheck and are fine with either brother. Gem and Chris joining Beady Eye was never a mark against Noel just as it's not a mark against Liam. Correct me if I'm wrong but did Liam ever publicly put them in the position that Noel is.... I'm curious from anyone in a band.. what do you do? We already know from the infamous Noel press conference that he felt that none of them had his back. Do they feel obligated to make a statement? Do they go along with him? Or do they just keep quiet? He's mentioned this 2xs.... Kinda difficult to be quiet about it? Well, unless ur chris.. I'm not sure he can even speak. Anyway, it's become a even more complicated situation? Like I said, if he expects anyone to believe this, he might be messing with Pandora's box.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2017 22:54:30 GMT -5
This was point made by many on here when Beady Eye formed. Some took Gem and Chris joining Liam as a repudiation and confirmation of Noel being the problem with Oasis. To me, it can be that Gem and Chris both need a paycheck and are fine with either brother. Gem and Chris joining Beady Eye was never a mark against Noel just as it's not a mark against Liam. Correct me if I'm wrong but did Liam ever publicly put them in the position that Noel is.... I'm curious from anyone in a band.. what do you do? We already know from the infamous Noel press conference that he felt that none of them had his back. Do they feel obligated to make a statement? Do they go along with him? Or do they just keep quiet? He's mentioned this 2xs.... Kinda difficult to be quiet about it? Well, unless ur chris.. I'm not sure he can even speak. Anyway, it's become a even more complicated situation? Like I said, if he expects anyone to believe this, he might be messing with Pandora's box. Liam and co's early group interviews were kind of cringey in that respect. You could sometimes tell that Gem and Chris weren't comfortable with the Noel bashing. But I don't think it's difficult for them tbh. Also, I don't think Liam ever had to say, well they're with me and not with you because Noel didn't release any music. For a while, it was only Beady Eye.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 17, 2017 22:57:29 GMT -5
Not a fan of the way he is using his bandmates as a weapon against his brother in this round of interviews. He is throwing them to the wolves by suggesting they have stories to tell about Liam without going into details. Begging journalist looking for headlines to either ask them about it or ask Liam for a response. Bit shitty imo, esp to Gem who is supposed to be his great pal.
I know they are famous for being willing to answer any question asked but I kinda wish they would ban journalists from asking questions about each other. It's a little boring.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 17, 2017 22:58:29 GMT -5
To be fair.. Andy, Gem and Chris were with Liam for nearly 5 years in Beady Eye, and that only ended because it was LIAM's decision. Fast forward to 2017.. of course Gem and Chris are going to play with Noel again, what the fuck else are they going to do? No one cares or wants any more Heavy Stereo tunes, and Chris hadn't done anything since BE finished.. beats sitting around the house and at least they can get paid to play gigs again. To answer Noel's question, yes, you do need to say more. This was point made by many on here when Beady Eye formed. Some took Gem and Chris joining Liam as a repudiation and confirmation of Noel being the problem with Oasis. To me, it can be that Gem and Chris both need a paycheck and are fine with either brother. Gem and Chris joining Beady Eye was never a mark against Noel just as it's not a mark against Liam. [/b] I might be the only person on the planet. Gotta pay the mortgage, right?
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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2017 23:02:19 GMT -5
This was point made by many on here when Beady Eye formed. Some took Gem and Chris joining Liam as a repudiation and confirmation of Noel being the problem with Oasis. To me, it can be that Gem and Chris both need a paycheck and are fine with either brother. Gem and Chris joining Beady Eye was never a mark against Noel just as it's not a mark against Liam. [/b] I might be the only person on the planet. Gotta pay the mortgage, right?[/quote] Oh, I thought the same thing at the time. Why would any of them wait around for Noel to record an album?
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 17, 2017 23:07:40 GMT -5
[/b] Specially with Noel going solo. BE I'm in the band, I know where I'd go. Should have played Oasis tunes from the beginning though. Although I was for not doing at first. Turned out to be big mistake IMO.
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Post by ariananana on Nov 18, 2017 7:28:03 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 18, 2017 7:36:37 GMT -5
[/b] Specially with Noel going solo. BE I'm in the band, I know where I'd go. Should have played Oasis tunes from the beginning though. Although I was for not doing at first. Turned out to be big mistake IMO. [/quote] Playing Oasis songs, Noel written Oasis songs, was never ever a good idea and it was the bands final Hail Mary play. It totally cheapened their persona immediately. This was a “new” group trying to forge their own unique identity but struggled. Deciding to carry on as basically Oasis minus Noel was always gonna be rough sledding. Playing any Oasis songs wasn’t gonna help and wasn’t really the issue. They needed songs. They needed a big.
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Post by General Dread on Nov 18, 2017 7:40:05 GMT -5
The fact that, even after 9 years, we stil don't know what really went down in Paris makes me think everyone was at fault. How hard would it be to go through the events of what really went down in an interview? Yet, no one has done so.
Feels like we're hitting a low point I havent seen since the actual breakup/press conference thingy.
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Post by joladella on Nov 18, 2017 8:48:54 GMT -5
The fact that, even after 9 years, we stil don't know what really went down in Paris makes me think everyone was at fault. How hard would it be to go through the events of what really went down in an interview? Yet, no one has done so. Feels like we're hitting a low point I havent seen since the actual breakup/press conference thingy. The most (for me) believable account for what happened was from Liam, before he became obsessed with his "he set me up" theory, when he said "he was a xxx, I was a xxx".
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Post by northernsky on Nov 18, 2017 9:32:22 GMT -5
Of all the dumb and ugly things Noel has said on this promo tour, trying to use the fact that Gem and Chris are in his touring band as some sort of proof of Liam’s supposed awfulness is, for me, the worst.
Not only does it make no sense (considering the’ve only played a few gigs with Noel several years later, while they recorded 2 albums and did two full tours with Liam for half a decade immediately after the breakup,) it’s also exactly the opposite stance Liam (for once, admirably) took when this was suggested during the Beady Eye era. I clearly remember during the DGSS tour a (I think it was a Canadian) interviewer suggested that the fact that all the other Oasis members went with Liam instead of Noel clearly spoke well of Liam. Though he meant it as a compliment, Liam immediately grew slightly offended on the other guys part, saying that outlook was insulting to Andy, Gem and Chris and that it was even unfair to Noel. And yes though he often went on Noel rants with the other guys sitting uncomfortably alongside, he also reiterated the feud was only between him and Noel and didn’t try to drag the others directly into it. Whereas now Noel is giggling to the press that he, Gem and Chris like to talk shit about Liam behind his back.
Jesus, I never thought I’d see the day that the “measured and reasonable” Noel would try to “out childish” Liam in their stupid feud. But hey, it’s 2017 and clearly anything ridiculous and crappy is possible these days.
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