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Post by CTWalk on Nov 1, 2017 15:12:07 GMT -5
It's difficult to really rate of these songs without hearing them all within the context of the album. I'm going to wait to make a judgement.
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Post by y2koasis on Nov 1, 2017 16:14:28 GMT -5
It's difficult to really rate of these songs without hearing them all within the context of the album. I'm going to wait to make a judgement. I'll translate for you. You love Noel. Hate the song. Hope in some way it magically changes in a couple weeks when it gets a proper release. |
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Post by juaaaaaaaaaaaaaan on Nov 1, 2017 17:18:15 GMT -5
isnt the bass player a dude from scissor sisters? has anyone found a way to make a joke out of that?
didnt like the song. sounds like a song my dad and uncles would play if they were artsy and formed a band.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 1, 2017 18:08:31 GMT -5
6. Clear filler fodder.
My ratings so far:
Holy Mountain - 9/10
Fort Knox - 7/10
She Taught Me How to Fly: 6/10
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Post by yeayeayeah on Nov 1, 2017 18:46:46 GMT -5
It's good up until it starts repeating itself over and over. The lyrics are a bunch of cliched Noelisms too. He is more than capable of writing decent to good lyrics when he feels like it. These just feel like they are the first lines that popped into his head.
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 1, 2017 20:16:37 GMT -5
It's difficult to really rate of these songs without hearing them all within the context of the album. I'm going to wait to make a judgement. I'll translate for you. You love Noel. Hate the song. Hope in some way it magically changes in a couple weeks when it gets a proper release. So awesome. Somehow the twiddling of the dials will make this color by numbers into a Picasso |
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 1, 2017 20:17:33 GMT -5
It's good up until it starts repeating itself over and over. The lyrics are a bunch of cliched Noelisms too. He is more than capable of writing decent to good lyrics when he feels like it. These just feel like they are the first lines that popped into his head. He has not felt like it on a consistent basis in 15 years... |
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Post by CTWalk on Nov 2, 2017 10:01:34 GMT -5
I'll translate for you. You love Noel. Hate the song. Hope in some way it magically changes in a couple weeks when it gets a proper release. So awesome. Somehow the twiddling of the dials will make this color by numbers into a Picasso I definitely don't hate the songs at all. I'll admit they aren't as immediately accessible as his work usually is. However, this is clearly some type of "concept" album for Noel and it's difficult to get the full "concept" without hearing the album in it's entirety. I guess I could just dismiss it as shit straight off and there's a strong possibility I may come to that conclusion anyway at some point......but I prefer to make an a full assessment rather than a knee jerk dismissal of something that immediately fell short of my idea of what Noel's music should sound like. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 2, 2017 13:35:03 GMT -5
I love long melodic choruses. This song delivers. Have to rate it an 8. I'm confident the album version won't disappoint.
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Post by thomasis on Nov 2, 2017 14:23:42 GMT -5
Really frustrated by these "Whalallahhhhh", or "The one I love", but it sounds the same. The guitar part is basically coming from the eighties I don't like, too repetitive...
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Post by A on Nov 2, 2017 15:14:29 GMT -5
Kind of amazed that some people are rating this an 8+/10. I understand we all have different opinions, but are we really going to say this song is almost as good at Let It Be, Imagine, Champagne Supernova, Here Comes the Sun, Free Fallin’, Layla, etc? All which could be considered as 10/10s by a significant amount of people?
I think some people let their love for Noel influence their rating of his music too much. Or we need to rethink the way we rate music.
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Post by holidayinthesun on Nov 2, 2017 15:40:47 GMT -5
Shouldn't we wait for the album version? No, I don’t think so. If a rock band can’t represent a song live then it shouldn’t be sung. Guitar music is mostly a live medium anyway, so this song should sound BETTER live. Noel is great and all that but this song sinks like a stone. 4/10 |
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Post by dion on Nov 2, 2017 19:37:27 GMT -5
Gave it a 5/10. Another song that barely scrapes a 6/10 average (and this poll didn't have zeroes in like the last one). On an Oasis forum that is worrying.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Nov 2, 2017 20:05:56 GMT -5
I’ve just changed my initial rating of 4 to a 6 - it’s a bit of an ear worm - best thing in it for me is Jess’s vocals, the drums and the Cure-esque guitars - after WalterGlass pointed it out I now only hear wah-la-la
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 2, 2017 20:22:59 GMT -5
Shouldn't we wait for the album version? No, I don’t think so. If a rock band can’t represent a song live then it shouldn’t be sung. Guitar music is mostly a live medium anyway, so this song should sound BETTER live.Noel is great and all that but this song sinks like a stone. 4/10 I'd better go back in time and tell The Beatles that they shouldn't bother making Sgt. Pepper because they can't represent the songs live. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 20:27:51 GMT -5
Gorgeous song, as it turns out! Gem's guitar tone is out of this world.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 2, 2017 21:27:28 GMT -5
Kind of amazed that some people are rating this an 8+/10. I understand we all have different opinions, but are we really going to say this song is almost as good at Let It Be, Imagine, Champagne Supernova, Here Comes the Sun, Free Fallin’, Layla, etc? All which could be considered as 10/10s by a significant amount of people? I think some people let their love for Noel influence their rating of his music too much. Or we need to rethink the way we rate music. I mean, I wouldn't even consider an 8/10 almost as good as a 10/10. 10/10 is on a different level. 9/10 is close, but flawed enough in some way that it's never quite able to tip over the scale. 8/10 is a solid track. It's an ear worm, well developed and comes together nicely enough that it's a good song, but still very flawed. For me, a 10 point rating scale is most equivalent to something like the Richter scale. I rated this song 8/10 and I have no blinding love for Noel. If he produces something I'm not fond of, I have no problems trashing it. Holy Mountain, Dream On, The Mexican...among others. |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Nov 2, 2017 21:39:22 GMT -5
Kind of amazed that some people are rating this an 8+/10. I understand we all have different opinions, but are we really going to say this song is almost as good at Let It Be, Imagine, Champagne Supernova, Here Comes the Sun, Free Fallin’, Layla, etc? All which could be considered as 10/10s by a significant amount of people? I think some people let their love for Noel influence their rating of his music too much. Or we need to rethink the way we rate music. I mean, I wouldn't even consider an 8/10 almost as good as a 10/10. 10/10 is on a different level. 9/10 is close, but flawed enough in some way that it's never quite able to tip over the scale. 8/10 is a solid track. It's an ear worm, well developed and comes together nicely enough that it's a good song, but still very flawed. For me, a 10 point rating scale is most equivalent to something like the Richter scale. I rated this song 8/10 and I have no blinding love for Noel. If he produces something I'm not fond of, I have no problems trashing it. Holy Mountain, Dream On, The Mexican...among others. For me a 8/10 is a greaaatt track. I'd say a 5/10 would be more solid. These songs don't come close to the level of an 8, 9 or 10 to me, because they don't compare at all to those upper echelon of songs in any category for me, but to each there own. I have this same exact argument for movies.... |
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Post by holidayinthesun on Nov 3, 2017 1:20:03 GMT -5
No, I don’t think so. If a rock band can’t represent a song live then it shouldn’t be sung. Guitar music is mostly a live medium anyway, so this song should sound BETTER live.Noel is great and all that but this song sinks like a stone. 4/10 I'd better go back in time and tell The Beatles that they shouldn't bother making Sgt. Pepper because they can't represent the songs live. Nonsense mate, that’s a reply from left field, and you didn’t even respond to my point, and you’ve brought in a disjointed example that I’m not even going to begin to touch. I like Noel too but this song is weak tea. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 3, 2017 1:32:51 GMT -5
Shouldn't we wait for the album version? No, I don’t think so. If a rock band can’t represent a song live then it shouldn’t be sung. Guitar music is mostly a live medium anyway, so this song should sound BETTER live. Noel is great and all that but this song sinks like a stone. 4/10 That's bullshit. There are plenty of songs that don't work well live, are hard to replicate due to whatever reason or just simply sound better on record (which is the majority of the songs, actually). |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 3, 2017 1:49:39 GMT -5
I'd say if your song sounds better live, then you did something very wrong in the studio.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 3, 2017 1:55:31 GMT -5
Maybe we should only watch movies whose scenes are easy to replicate on stage....
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Post by holidayinthesun on Nov 3, 2017 11:14:52 GMT -5
No, I don’t think so. If a rock band can’t represent a song live then it shouldn’t be sung. Guitar music is mostly a live medium anyway, so this song should sound BETTER live. Noel is great and all that but this song sinks like a stone. 4/10 That's bullshit. There are plenty of songs that don't work well live, are hard to replicate due to whatever reason or just simply sound better on record (which is the majority of the songs, actually). So you’re saying then that Noel went out of his way to debut a song on live TV that “doesn’t work well live?” And you’re ok with that? |
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Post by holidayinthesun on Nov 3, 2017 11:15:41 GMT -5
I'd say if your song sounds better live, then you did something very wrong in the studio. You might need rock and roll lessons mate lol. It’s a live medium. |
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Post by holidayinthesun on Nov 3, 2017 11:16:53 GMT -5
Maybe we should only watch movies whose scenes are easy to replicate on stage.... You’re comparing apples and oranges, quite silly actually, as movies don’t tour the world as live acts lol. |
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