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Post by glio on Oct 22, 2017 4:58:55 GMT -5
Instead of his new electronic change of direction would any of you prefer a purely acoustic album? just noel and his guitar? is that a radical change or basically just a sh*t random hungover thought?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 5:13:34 GMT -5
I wish one day he'll release a raw record, acoustic based with just some piano or subtle strings in the background. That would oblige him to write great melodies cos' all the songs would be stripped down.
Maybe for LP#4 or LP#5.
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Post by eva on Oct 22, 2017 6:11:17 GMT -5
yes, I'd definitely prefer an acoustic album over David Holmes' project
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Oct 22, 2017 6:39:03 GMT -5
I think that would be great. Acoustic Noel is his strongest encarnation, it's the place when the great melodicist he is really shines. It's Noel's gift the same way the voice is Liam's gift. He should do it, but maybe he is too young yet. Maybe when he is in his sixties and tired of this midlife crisis phase he is living now.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 22, 2017 6:41:49 GMT -5
Maybe one day. I'm happy he's going in another direction this time round though. He's probably got enough material in reserve to release a stripped back album pretty quickly if he wanted to if WBTM is a bit of a flop.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 22, 2017 6:42:28 GMT -5
Would love to see Noel do a acoustic, folk based album one day, I think it would suit him well. Plenty of time for that.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 22, 2017 6:44:39 GMT -5
I think we can get both tbh I'd love an acoustic album from Noel, but there's time for that, I'M happy with what we are getting now
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Post by matt on Oct 22, 2017 6:50:28 GMT -5
As long as they aren't yet more retreads of past Oasis songs, then perhaps it would work. But it would have to have a semblance of some decent lyrics surely? While it's obvious he's no poet, his best acoustic songs are largely accompanied with his strongest lyrics, like Half The World Away, Talk Tonight or D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman. All sincere and honest enough to emotionally resonate, without resorting to word salad.
While his new album could deviate attention from poor lyrics with its layered instrumentation (something I'm particularly looking forward to), an acoustic album would expose bad lyrics on an unbearable level. There's a reason why the great acoustic albums aren't just given a status for mere tunefulness alone, and that's because of the intimacy, poignancy, acute observations and introspection in the lyrics that often accompany the songs.
If he's going to be spouting shite like Girl With The X Ray Eyes, then forget it.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 22, 2017 7:10:17 GMT -5
Something like Howl by BRMC would be great
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 22, 2017 8:37:51 GMT -5
Something like Howl by BRMC would be great underrated album!
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Post by Gas Panic on Oct 22, 2017 9:04:11 GMT -5
A stripped back, softer acoustic based album is exactly what I've wanted from Noel since the STC mini tour with Gem in 2006.
I thought that was the direction he was heading into after Oasis, especially after the TCT gig in 2010 (the first gig he did after Oasis broke up).
I would kill to get album from Noel in this style:
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 22, 2017 9:05:48 GMT -5
As long as they aren't yet more retreads of past Oasis songs, then perhaps it would work. But it would have to have a semblance of some decent lyrics surely? While it's obvious he's no poet, his best acoustic songs are largely accompanied with his strongest lyrics, like Half The World Away, Talk Tonight or D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman. All sincere and honest enough to emotionally resonate, without resorting to word salad. While his new album could deviate attention from poor lyrics with its layered instrumentation (something I'm particularly looking forward to), an acoustic album would expose bad lyrics on an unbearable level. There's a reason why the great acoustic albums aren't just given a status for mere tunefulness alone, and that's because of the intimacy, poignancy, acute observations and introspection in the lyrics that often accompany the songs. If he's going to be spouting shite like Girl With The X Ray Eyes, then forget it. This was almost exactly what I was about to say.
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Post by walterglass on Oct 22, 2017 9:18:08 GMT -5
Not so much prefer but I hope he can tick a Harvest-esque album off the list one day.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Oct 22, 2017 9:19:29 GMT -5
Would I prefer an album that doesn't exist to one that I haven't heard yet? Well... I don't know? You've got to admit the question is a bit ridiculous when the new album hasn't even leaked. Having said that, I shouldn't judge too much since I have a nasty hangover too As for a possible future acoustic album, I think it could work very well, provided the songs are there. In the meantime there's plenty of live acoustic material, demos and b-sides, and we'll soon get a new acoustic track (Dead in the Water). We don't know what God Help Us All will sound like in its finished form, but it will probably be semi-acoustic.
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Post by lurker1 on Oct 22, 2017 11:17:28 GMT -5
yes, I'd definitely prefer an acoustic album over David Holmes' project How do you know that? You've heard one song off the new NG album. Granted I don't care for holy mountain at all but I'm still 100% confident there are better songs on the album we've not been privy to just yet.
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 22, 2017 11:36:08 GMT -5
A stripped back, softer acoustic based album is exactly what I've wanted from Noel since the STC mini tour with Gem in 2006. I thought that was the direction he was heading into after Oasis, especially after the TCT gig in 2010 (the first gig he did after Oasis broke up). I would kill to get album from Noel in this style: As a fan of Oasis since 1995, I must shamefully admit that between 2001-2005, I was kinda off of them. As a an 11 year old when SOTSOG came out, I wasn't mature enough to grasp that album and in those years, they just were no longer popular with friends at school etc... Really hate to admit that. But this tour really started my re-invigoration towards Oasis. I remember one of these shows being played over the rock radio station here, decided to listen and I kind of had my Oasis epiphany. This show made me realize how much I missed them and how amazing they truly were. I then re-listened to the entire discography, which included HC and DBTT being new for me (I only knew the singles). I then found this forum in anticipation for DOYS. I'd be all for an album like this, but at the same time I have no issue with the Holmes project coming first, cause I'm down for some modern variance. But if LP4 for like this, I'd have no problem. Sometimes bare bones Noel just really reminds you how special his music really is.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 22, 2017 11:43:18 GMT -5
I've always thought he could do an acoustic album, except lately. I honestly don't think Noel's a good enough guitarist to do an acoustic album. A good acoustic album is more than just strum-based. The best ones have guitarists, who are able to mix strum, with finger picking, arppegiations, interesting chord voicings, and intricate walk downs. Noel is capable of some of this stuff but hasn't shown a high level of ability with all of it.
Basically, an album of Noel doing samey acoustic stuff doesn't appeal to me. It'd have to have a decent amount of variation (Or it would quickly lose replay value), and that's dependent on the ability of the player. Also, as Matt mentioned, the lyrics would have to be high quality across the board, now "cow" stuff.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 22, 2017 11:53:06 GMT -5
Instead of his new electronic change of direction would any of you prefer a purely acoustic album? just noel and his guitar? is that a radical change or basically just a sh*t random hungover thought? No, I much prefer what we are getting now. Noel on acoustic is nice for the occasional track, which is why his slower B sides were always a refreshing change from the norm during the Oasis days. But I wouldn't like an album full of them. I much prefer Noel at full speed, loud, upbeat - Lock all the Doors, Holy Mountain, Some Might Say, Step Out, Round Are Way, The Fame. Give me an album full of songs like that any day of the week.
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Post by eva on Oct 22, 2017 13:56:49 GMT -5
yes, I'd definitely prefer an acoustic album over David Holmes' project How do you know that? You've heard one song off the new NG album. Granted I don't care for holy mountain at all but I'm still 100% confident there are better songs on the album we've not been privy to just yet. because I prefer the acoustic style over dance/electronic/experimental/whatever you want to call it I liked a couple of the snippets in the trailer, I don't like HM. even if we get a bunch of good songs on the new album, I'd still prefer something acoustic. I think that style suits Noel's voice better
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 22, 2017 14:03:11 GMT -5
I've always thought he could do an acoustic album, except lately. I honestly don't think Noel's a good enough guitarist to do an acoustic album. A good acoustic album is more than just strum-based. The best ones have guitarists, who are able to mix strum, with finger picking, arppegiations, interesting chord voicings, and intricate walk downs. Noel is capable of some of this stuff but hasn't shown a high level of ability with all of it. Basically, an album of Noel doing samey acoustic stuff doesn't appeal to me. It'd have to have a decent amount of variation (Or it would quickly lose replay value), and that's dependent on the ability of the player. Also, as Matt mentioned, the lyrics would have to be high quality across the board, now "cow" stuff. He should do as Bob does. Get the songs together and then get some great musicians to embellish. That's not beyond him.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 22, 2017 14:10:38 GMT -5
Maybe back in 2001-2004. I always wanted Noel to do a side acoustic album while in Oasis. My dream was booking up with Nigel Godrich to do it. Sorts like Beck and McCartney. Didn’t happen and I’m Now well past acoustic songy Noel. Forwards.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 22, 2017 14:25:54 GMT -5
I've always thought he could do an acoustic album, except lately. I honestly don't think Noel's a good enough guitarist to do an acoustic album. A good acoustic album is more than just strum-based. The best ones have guitarists, who are able to mix strum, with finger picking, arppegiations, interesting chord voicings, and intricate walk downs. Noel is capable of some of this stuff but hasn't shown a high level of ability with all of it. Basically, an album of Noel doing samey acoustic stuff doesn't appeal to me. It'd have to have a decent amount of variation (Or it would quickly lose replay value), and that's dependent on the ability of the player. Also, as Matt mentioned, the lyrics would have to be high quality across the board, now "cow" stuff. He should do as Bob does. Get the songs together and then get some great musicians to embellish. That's not beyond him. Dylan also has fantastic lyrics that add to the embellishment
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Post by MONO on Oct 22, 2017 14:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by franklomax on Oct 22, 2017 14:38:42 GMT -5
I feel like the two best tracks this era might be Dead in the Water and God Help Us All.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 22, 2017 14:53:14 GMT -5
No. Noel's never been that great at injecting genuine emotion into his acoustic songs. Sure, when he's done it right, it's worked really damn well, but how many times did he actually succeed? By my count, only 3 times did he write/record acoustic songs that were worthy of album inclusion - Talk Tonight, Half the World Away, and D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman. And he wrote those songs more than 20 years ago. He's not Jeff Buckley or Elliot Smith. He's never been good at the kind of intimacy that defines most acoustic albums.
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