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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 14, 2018 14:50:10 GMT -5
1. These guys look like children. 2. Their first album is called First Bite of the Apple. Beady Eye fans or coincidence? They're young lads who grew up with listening to Arctic Monkeys. I enjoyed their performance though. More great pics from Amsterdam gig on ticketmaster site: blog.ticketmaster.nl/muziek/liam-gallagher-afas-live-3348
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Post by bt95 on Mar 14, 2018 15:01:16 GMT -5
1. These guys look like children. 2. Their first album is called First Bite of the Apple. Beady Eye fans or coincidence? They're from a tiny former pit (mining) village just north of Sheffield, around 30 minutes from my city. As mimmi says, they're very 'Arctic Monkeys does the Courteeners'. TBH, not for me. I enjoyed a few of their tunes the other night and they're having some success over in the UK, though, so best of luck to them. Going on tour with an icon like Liam (any northern lad interested in music or fashion will have grown up with Liam/Noel/Oasis as a huge background part in their life in the last 20 years) will have been huge for them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 15:17:45 GMT -5
I think they sound better than Courteeners.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Mar 14, 2018 15:25:18 GMT -5
time mark please....go on point yourself out!!! Fucking hell, I can't even find it anymore, too blurry If you spot a young guy with dark hair and Ben Sherman check shirt (blue-red-white) that's me then. I couldn't... Anyway, I recorded this very short video during Live Forever so I'm somewhere in that area during those videos... I kinda wish I had recorded longer but I was too busy enjoying the show Ha ha...not to worry.....your vid is a great 👍
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Post by Let It Bleed on Mar 14, 2018 15:56:50 GMT -5
I could say so many things.... Thanks. Cat Got Your Tongue? ¿Did I leave my wallet at your house? It says 'Bad Motherfucker' on it. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 15:58:50 GMT -5
“See you soon” means Finsbury surely.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Mar 14, 2018 16:02:27 GMT -5
1. These guys look like children.2. Their first album is called First Bite of the Apple. Beady Eye fans or coincidence? They're probably Líam's children. God bless.
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Post by greedysoul on Mar 14, 2018 16:35:11 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher doesn't inspire that pure joy. Ha ha. Those at the Castlefield Bowl gig would probably disagree. God like. I’m sure the crowd at teenage cancer trust would also disagree
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 16:56:42 GMT -5
“See you soon” means Finsbury surely. They're also playing in Glasgow the next day. Edit. I recorded my guitar track over Supersonic as well. This was filmed near the front row so more crowd noises. Again, I'm not a professional so some mistakes clyp.it/jar1twqx
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Post by anothergreatdivide on Mar 14, 2018 17:47:05 GMT -5
God I wish I lived in Europe. These concerts are looking and sounding amazing! If Liam ever did a show here in NZ the crowd would be close to dead for most of the time (save opening and closing songs). Gahhhh I thought the Australian gigs would be like that (dead) but honestly they look pretty similar to a lot of the clips I have seen of the European ones, in some cases even better (maybe not Amsterdam but some of the other ones). I think with NZ he hasn't been there for ages (not sure if Beady Eye came there) so the absence would mean people are really excited to see him. Gigs>Festivals all day long though, I know a big Oasis fan who saw him at Falls Festival and apparently loads were just there to see Wonderwall and shouting that at the stage the entire time. Maybe, just maybe. 3 of the songs from As You Were have had solid airplay here, and a lot of Oasis gets played too. But they're more of a cult band still, plenty of people know Wall of Glass, Champagne Supernova etc but not much more than that. Not enough to warrant going to see him anyway
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Post by coconutstall on Mar 15, 2018 2:40:36 GMT -5
I thought the Australian gigs would be like that (dead) but honestly they look pretty similar to a lot of the clips I have seen of the European ones, in some cases even better (maybe not Amsterdam but some of the other ones). I think with NZ he hasn't been there for ages (not sure if Beady Eye came there) so the absence would mean people are really excited to see him. Gigs>Festivals all day long though, I know a big Oasis fan who saw him at Falls Festival and apparently loads were just there to see Wonderwall and shouting that at the stage the entire time. Maybe, just maybe. 3 of the songs from As You Were have had solid airplay here, and a lot of Oasis gets played too. But they're more of a cult band still, plenty of people know Wall of Glass, Champagne Supernova etc but not much more than that. Not enough to warrant going to see him anyway Australian stations don't play him too much. FWIW was on the radio for a bit but that was mainly as a plug for him doing the Nova Red Room. Triple M (rock station) plays some Oasis too, have heard Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Whatever, Champagne Supernova and Roll with It on there but that is pretty much it and thats rare. Liam has certainly had a surge in popularity over the past 6 months here, people will now know who I am talking about when I say the name Liam Gallagher and that wasn't always the case. When he was here he was on all our morning news shows and that and you would hear his name a lot, I think that helped him a lot.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 15, 2018 19:03:00 GMT -5
Its odd that you spent all that money to go and watch glorified karaoke. You really can't take any critism of your boy Noel can you. £35? £40 for plane tickets? Yeh, loads mate... bloody hell I said I loved it. And I'm hyped again to see him at Finsbury - it's going to be brilliant. But I'm more excited to see Noel on his new tour as he's doing something a bit different in terms of how the band seem to be playing etc etc. Liam last week was great and gave a real 'Oasis gig' vibe. But equally, Noel did the same time I saw him in 2012 - people just have short memories. I want Noel to be more exciting with his setlists. I think he plays it far too safe so when he's thrown some new things in this year it's got me excited again. The best parts of the Liam gig were Noel's songs though. End of. Glorified karaoke. It's not a criticism, I wasn't even the one who said it initially, it was a mate who isn't as big of a fan of either of them as I am but I thought it summed it up quite well. A great night out, a great singalong, but comparing it to the Phonics two days later, it was nothing (and in all honesty, I doubt Noel will match up either when I see him in May ) You must be the only person in history who thinks describing something as 'glorified karaoke' isn't a criticism. Aside from the fact that I disagree with the description mainly on the basis Liam is singing the songs he sang on record and live all those years, his brother isn't required in person to justify it.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 16, 2018 3:17:29 GMT -5
£35? £40 for plane tickets? Yeh, loads mate... bloody hell I said I loved it. And I'm hyped again to see him at Finsbury - it's going to be brilliant. But I'm more excited to see Noel on his new tour as he's doing something a bit different in terms of how the band seem to be playing etc etc. Liam last week was great and gave a real 'Oasis gig' vibe. But equally, Noel did the same time I saw him in 2012 - people just have short memories. I want Noel to be more exciting with his setlists. I think he plays it far too safe so when he's thrown some new things in this year it's got me excited again. The best parts of the Liam gig were Noel's songs though. End of. Glorified karaoke. It's not a criticism, I wasn't even the one who said it initially, it was a mate who isn't as big of a fan of either of them as I am but I thought it summed it up quite well. A great night out, a great singalong, but comparing it to the Phonics two days later, it was nothing (and in all honesty, I doubt Noel will match up either when I see him in May ) You must be the only person in history who thinks describing something as 'glorified karaoke' isn't a criticism. Aside from the fact that I disagree with the description mainly on the basis Liam is singing the songs he sang on record and live all those years, his brother isn't required in person to justify it. Several other members on here agreed with me, so I'm evidently not the only person I don't think Noel needs to be there to justify it. I just felt there was something missing from the performance at times. But overall a really excellent gig and I'm looking forward to seeing him again in June.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 16, 2018 4:08:02 GMT -5
You must be the only person in history who thinks describing something as 'glorified karaoke' isn't a criticism. Aside from the fact that I disagree with the description mainly on the basis Liam is singing the songs he sang on record and live all those years, his brother isn't required in person to justify it. Several other members on here agreed with me, so I'm evidently not the only person I don't think Noel needs to be there to justify it. I just felt there was something missing from the performance at times. But overall a really excellent gig and I'm looking forward to seeing him again in June. If there are others and I can't see them but they'd be wrong to. What's worse though singing someone elses songs you did on the original records or not being able to do justice to the songs you wrote?
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Post by bt95 on Mar 16, 2018 4:51:39 GMT -5
Several other members on here agreed with me, so I'm evidently not the only person I don't think Noel needs to be there to justify it. I just felt there was something missing from the performance at times. But overall a really excellent gig and I'm looking forward to seeing him again in June. If there are others and I can't see them but they'd be wrong to. What's worse though singing someone elses songs you did on the original records or not being able to do justice to the songs you wrote? Who can't do the songs they wrote justice? Liam's gig was great. I enjoyed it and I got exactly what I thought he would deliver. Part of me just felt a bit disappointed. And not even by Liam or the band. More in the fact it seems to be just the audience trying to recreate the vibe was there with Oasis - and even though SMS and Slide Away etc were done brilliantly, and the new songs definitely stand up - I just personally felt like something was missing. I'm not even sure I can put my finger on it, but it's probably the most underwhelming gig I've been to recently - even though the performance was great and the atmosphere great and everything about the night was a great laugh. The DMA's last year - in a small venue admittedly - were brilliant, and a flavour of a new band (albeit a relatively small one) coming through. Kasabian in Hamburg was something else. The Charlatans, playing their classics and their new stuff, was brilliant and very different to either of the ones before it. The Stereophonics, probably the most underrated/undervalued British band of the last 20 years - are masters of their trade, much like Oasis were by 2008/09, but just with a bit more musical style (Kelly Jones is such a ridiculously good musician). So even though I've tried not to compare because Liam is different to all of those, it's perhaps the only one out of those last five gigs that I've been to that I've left getting exactly what I expected. Again, no bad thing, but sometimes it's nice to have a bit of a surprise/lasting impact I suppose. Not sure that I'm going to look back in 10 years' time as Liam's concert in Amsterdam as a massively memorable time... And in fairness, it was the same with Noel by the third/fourth time I'd seen him on the CY tour. The gig I'd probably compare it to the most was when I saw Stone Roses in Manchester in 2016 (twice). I went because I wanted to see them, at least once. I'm now seeing Liam twice in the space of three months, which will make it three times including Leeds Fest last year, and I can at least say I've now got my fix of him. I've got to see a real icon in action. I don't care that I'll never see the Roses again. I probably will go and see Liam again next time around, but equally so I don't think I'll be scrambling for tickets like I did this time...
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 16, 2018 5:23:15 GMT -5
If there are others and I can't see them but they'd be wrong to. What's worse though singing someone elses songs you did on the original records or not being able to do justice to the songs you wrote? Who can't do the songs they wrote justice? Liam's gig was great. I enjoyed it and I got exactly what I thought he would deliver. Part of me just felt a bit disappointed. And not even by Liam or the band. More in the fact it seems to be just the audience trying to recreate the vibe was there with Oasis - and even though SMS and Slide Away etc were done brilliantly, and the new songs definitely stand up - I just personally felt like something was missing. I'm not even sure I can put my finger on it, but it's probably the most underwhelming gig I've been to recently - even though the performance was great and the atmosphere great and everything about the night was a great laugh. The DMA's last year - in a small venue admittedly - were brilliant, and a flavour of a new band (albeit a relatively small one) coming through. Kasabian in Hamburg was something else. The Charlatans, playing their classics and their new stuff, was brilliant and very different to either of the ones before it. The Stereophonics, probably the most underrated/undervalued British band of the last 20 years - are masters of their trade, much like Oasis were by 2008/09, but just with a bit more musical style (Kelly Jones is such a ridiculously good musician). So even though I've tried not to compare because Liam is different to all of those, it's perhaps the only one out of those last five gigs that I've been to that I've left getting exactly what I expected. Again, no bad thing, but sometimes it's nice to have a bit of a surprise/lasting impact I suppose. Not sure that I'm going to look back in 10 years' time as Liam's concert in Amsterdam as a massively memorable time... And in fairness, it was the same with Noel by the third/fourth time I'd seen him on the CY tour. The gig I'd probably compare it to the most was when I saw Stone Roses in Manchester in 2016 (twice). I went because I wanted to see them, at least once. I'm now seeing Liam twice in the space of three months, which will make it three times including Leeds Fest last year, and I can at least say I've now got my fix of him. I've got to see a real icon in action. I don't care that I'll never see the Roses again. I probably will go and see Liam again next time around, but equally so I don't think I'll be scrambling for tickets like I did this time... Noel, see Go Let It Out for further information.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 16, 2018 5:27:35 GMT -5
Who can't do the songs they wrote justice? Liam's gig was great. I enjoyed it and I got exactly what I thought he would deliver. Part of me just felt a bit disappointed. And not even by Liam or the band. More in the fact it seems to be just the audience trying to recreate the vibe was there with Oasis - and even though SMS and Slide Away etc were done brilliantly, and the new songs definitely stand up - I just personally felt like something was missing. I'm not even sure I can put my finger on it, but it's probably the most underwhelming gig I've been to recently - even though the performance was great and the atmosphere great and everything about the night was a great laugh. The DMA's last year - in a small venue admittedly - were brilliant, and a flavour of a new band (albeit a relatively small one) coming through. Kasabian in Hamburg was something else. The Charlatans, playing their classics and their new stuff, was brilliant and very different to either of the ones before it. The Stereophonics, probably the most underrated/undervalued British band of the last 20 years - are masters of their trade, much like Oasis were by 2008/09, but just with a bit more musical style (Kelly Jones is such a ridiculously good musician). So even though I've tried not to compare because Liam is different to all of those, it's perhaps the only one out of those last five gigs that I've been to that I've left getting exactly what I expected. Again, no bad thing, but sometimes it's nice to have a bit of a surprise/lasting impact I suppose. Not sure that I'm going to look back in 10 years' time as Liam's concert in Amsterdam as a massively memorable time... And in fairness, it was the same with Noel by the third/fourth time I'd seen him on the CY tour. The gig I'd probably compare it to the most was when I saw Stone Roses in Manchester in 2016 (twice). I went because I wanted to see them, at least once. I'm now seeing Liam twice in the space of three months, which will make it three times including Leeds Fest last year, and I can at least say I've now got my fix of him. I've got to see a real icon in action. I don't care that I'll never see the Roses again. I probably will go and see Liam again next time around, but equally so I don't think I'll be scrambling for tickets like I did this time... Noel, see Go Let It Out for further information. He can do it justice though, he just does it in a different key and a different version, which works just fine for the way he is playing and suits his voice. If he tried to do it like Liam, then I'd totally agree. But just because something is different to the original, it doesn't make it better or worse. It's just a change. Like Champagne Supernova. Noel's version works fine for Noel. I'm sure if Liam does it in the original key come the summer, it'll work brilliantly for Liam's voice. Btw, people need to stop picking that as an example as well. I'd much rather listen to the Noel-sung 2018 version, than the snarly, horrid, out of tune live version they did in 2002. 2000 - 2001, Go Let It Out was great, but it was dropped for a reason - it knackered Liam's voice up. Liam would probably do a much better version of it now than he could back then.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 17, 2018 12:21:04 GMT -5
£35? £40 for plane tickets? Yeh, loads mate... bloody hell I said I loved it. And I'm hyped again to see him at Finsbury - it's going to be brilliant. But I'm more excited to see Noel on his new tour as he's doing something a bit different in terms of how the band seem to be playing etc etc. Liam last week was great and gave a real 'Oasis gig' vibe. But equally, Noel did the same time I saw him in 2012 - people just have short memories. I want Noel to be more exciting with his setlists. I think he plays it far too safe so when he's thrown some new things in this year it's got me excited again. The best parts of the Liam gig were Noel's songs though. End of. Glorified karaoke. It's not a criticism, I wasn't even the one who said it initially, it was a mate who isn't as big of a fan of either of them as I am but I thought it summed it up quite well. A great night out, a great singalong, but comparing it to the Phonics two days later, it was nothing (and in all honesty, I doubt Noel will match up either when I see him in May ) You must be the only person in history who thinks describing something as 'glorified karaoke' isn't a criticism. Aside from the fact that I disagree with the description mainly on the basis Liam is singing the songs he sang on record and live all those years, his brother isn't required in person to justify it. His brother isn't, but a better guitarist would be nice. Or sound guy. Not sure which is the problem.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Mar 17, 2018 20:22:24 GMT -5
People want to sing along with the songs they know. I don't think they're consciously trying to recreate something; they just want to be part of those songs.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 18, 2018 4:50:13 GMT -5
People want to sing along with the songs they know. I don't think they're consciously trying to recreate something; they just want to be part of those songs. That's a good point - and it's what I wanted to do as well. End of the day, great gigs from Liam and he's on top form. I just don't see it as the second coming as some seem to.
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Post by chamu on Mar 20, 2018 5:54:41 GMT -5
Maybe fake news...but who knows!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 20, 2018 14:45:11 GMT -5
People want to sing along with the songs they know. I don't think they're consciously trying to recreate something; they just want to be part of those songs. That's a good point - and it's what I wanted to do as well. End of the day, great gigs from Liam and he's on top form. I just don't see it as the second coming as some seem to.You mean people enjoying the record? Haven't seen many if any saying that is some sort of modern classic, more that its an album people can throughly enjoy start to finish. It seems you and others are annoyed by its success especially in comparison to Noel, like you can't quite fathom how all this turned around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 15:31:41 GMT -5
That's a good point - and it's what I wanted to do as well. End of the day, great gigs from Liam and he's on top form. I just don't see it as the second coming as some seem to.You mean people enjoying the record? Haven't seen many if any saying that is some sort of modern classic, more that its an album people can throughly enjoy start to finish. It seems you and others are annoyed by its success especially in comparison to Noel, like you can't quite fathom how all this turned around. Well said Tom and I’m not afraid to say it to all of them: “I believe the resurrection’s on and you were wrong.”
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Post by bt95 on Mar 20, 2018 18:12:35 GMT -5
That's a good point - and it's what I wanted to do as well. End of the day, great gigs from Liam and he's on top form. I just don't see it as the second coming as some seem to.You mean people enjoying the record? Haven't seen many if any saying that is some sort of modern classic, more that its an album people can throughly enjoy start to finish. It seems you and others are annoyed by its success especially in comparison to Noel, like you can't quite fathom how all this turned around Why would I be annoyed? It backed up everything I've been saying to anybody who didn't know just how important Oasis are... If I was annoyed, why would I be spending close to £300 in total to go see Liam three times in the space of a year? I don't like how some people/fans have suddenly disregarded Noel's music without giving any valid reason - that has annoyed me. The people who have given perfectly reasonable criticism, sound. The people who took offence to a quip about 'parka monkeys' (and inadvertently played straight into that stereotype), I find it strange. But, that doesn't make Liam's album any less of a great record. It is what it is, a very good pop album which has been used as a tool for Liam to make a great comeback and as you said can be enjoyed from start to finish. Personally, I got tired of it quicker than I got tired of WBTM?, and i've tended to go back to WBTM? more, but when I played Liam's album all the way through a few weeks back, it's still very good. It's all fine by me. I just don't think there has been any great 'turnaround'. They're just both doing what they're doing - Liam has just enjoyed greater success than I think anybody expected - and a lot of that is to do with the fact that there's no great, British, guitar band that our generation gets behind, so we've jumped onto the most iconic band from 20 years ago (just like Oasis did with the Beatles before them). I'm looking forward to seeing where Noel goes - if he indeed goes anywhere - with this slightly new direction, and I'll be interested to see what Liam does with his next venture as well. I enjoyed the gig in Amsterdam. I just left it feeling like there was something missing. But maybe come June when I see him at Finsbury it'll be different. I know that something wasn't Noel, btw - I really don't care for a reunion. If they do it, I'll spend tons to go to see them, but equally so I really don't think they, us or the world needs it.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 20, 2018 18:13:59 GMT -5
You mean people enjoying the record? Haven't seen many if any saying that is some sort of modern classic, more that its an album people can throughly enjoy start to finish. It seems you and others are annoyed by its success especially in comparison to Noel, like you can't quite fathom how all this turned around. Well said Tom and I’m not afraid to say it to all of them: “I believe the resurrection’s on and you were wrong.” See my response to Tom above. Not once have I claimed AYW is a bad record. Not once have I slated Liam. I just think some of the praise has been over the top, and equally some of the criticism for Noel over the top. BTW, you're the person on here who convinced me that Finsbury was a must-see, so I hope you're proved right!
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