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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 16:16:32 GMT -5
You insulted some Americans and their pro-gun views after I asked you what you thought was wrong with that video you posted of the child playing with the gun. I was surprised you didn’t insult me as well just for asking you the question. you think that's insulting?? ok is this reply also insulting? because you assume I insult you with every reply Yes, that particular post was insulting. You said Americans were fucked up. |
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Post by fiordiligi on May 20, 2018 16:17:09 GMT -5
Why don’t you tell us what your government could do to avoid more mass shootings for once, instead of criticise everyone else proposals.
Because you’re not debating at all, you just keep repeating the same stuff over and over, and criticise other ideas without counter-proposing anything. That’s not a debate, and to be honest it looks like you’re not really interested in our ideas, it looks more like you just want to tell us about how right is your right to own guns.
But maybe that’s just my impression.
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 16:18:05 GMT -5
Because it is a gun designed to kill as many people as possible. I can't find any reasonable argument defending a civilian's right to own such a weapon. Those background checks are extremely flawed. For example people on the terrorist watch list are allowed to buy guns. I'm not kidding. So do you agree that all civilians with assault weapons should either turn their weapons in or have them taken away? Absolutely. They would get their money back, or they could probably switch that gun to another one for free, as long as it's not an assault rifle. For as long as they're responsible gun owners who have purchased their guns legally, to be extra clear. |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 16:20:20 GMT -5
Why don’t you tell us what your government could do to avoid more mass shootings for once, instead of criticise everyone else proposals. Because you’re not debating at all, you just keep repeating the same stuff over and over, and criticise other ideas without counter-proposing anything. That’s not a debate, and to be honest it looks like you’re not really interested in our ideas, it looks more like you just want to tell us about how right is your right to own guns. But maybe that’s just my impression. Am I supposed to just agree with you and not speak my mind? I believe that a lot of these children needed stronger parental guidance and prompt mental care prior to the crimes they committed. The gun is only part of the equation. |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 16:21:05 GMT -5
So do you agree that all civilians with assault weapons should either turn their weapons in or have them taken away? Absolutely. They would get their money back, or they could probably switch that gun to another one for free, as long as it's not an assault rifle. For as long as they're responsible gun owners who have purchased their guns legally, to be extra clear. Like I’ve said to someone previously, you do understand that is textbook definition of fascism right? |
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Post by eva on May 20, 2018 16:21:18 GMT -5
you think that's insulting?? ok is this reply also insulting? because you assume I insult you with every reply Yes, that particular post was insulting. You said Americans were fucked up. I don't understand how that is insulting if you give a gun to a kid you are fucked up! if you glamorize a 4 year old handling a huge gun it is fucked up selling assault rifles to any common folk is wrong I really don't know how to say this without you feeling so insulted, but the first step is recognizing there is a problem. It seems like there's something some Americans should open their minds and start giving it some thought |
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 16:23:56 GMT -5
Why don’t you tell us what your government could do to avoid more mass shootings for once, instead of criticise everyone else proposals. Because you’re not debating at all, you just keep repeating the same stuff over and over, and criticise other ideas without counter-proposing anything. That’s not a debate, and to be honest it looks like you’re not really interested in our ideas, it looks more like you just want to tell us about how right is your right to own guns. But maybe that’s just my impression. From what I can tell, he's proposing stuff that the left/people who want gun reforms already are for. Basically picking up the signs to prevent shootings talking place, better mental health care etc. I might have missed some other arguments, though. |
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 16:25:51 GMT -5
Absolutely. They would get their money back, or they could probably switch that gun to another one for free, as long as it's not an assault rifle. For as long as they're responsible gun owners who have purchased their guns legally, to be extra clear. Like I’ve said to someone previously, you do understand that is textbook definition of fascism right? Ok, up to this point I took you seriously. They're allowed to own and buy guns, just not guns that the fucking military uses. Step up your game, dude. |
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Post by fiordiligi on May 20, 2018 16:27:06 GMT -5
Why don’t you tell us what your government could do to avoid more mass shootings for once, instead of criticise everyone else proposals. Because you’re not debating at all, you just keep repeating the same stuff over and over, and criticise other ideas without counter-proposing anything. That’s not a debate, and to be honest it looks like you’re not really interested in our ideas, it looks more like you just want to tell us about how right is your right to own guns. But maybe that’s just my impression. Am I supposed to just agree with you and not speak my mind? I believe that a lot of these children needed stronger parental guidance and prompt mental care prior to the crimes they committed. The gun is only part of the equation. Of course you can express your mind jesus, what a ridicoulous question! but a debate is made when you actually explain why you don't agree with other people, you never really explain anything, you just ask other silly questions and wonder why people got frustated and annoyed. so you think that your goverment shouldn't do anything except give more mental care to kids? |
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Post by Binary Sunset on May 20, 2018 16:27:24 GMT -5
Absolutely. They would get their money back, or they could probably switch that gun to another one for free, as long as it's not an assault rifle. For as long as they're responsible gun owners who have purchased their guns legally, to be extra clear. Like I’ve said to someone previously, you do understand that is textbook definition of fascism right? Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Just like how you don't understand what socialism actually is. |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 16:32:31 GMT -5
Like I’ve said to someone previously, you do understand that is textbook definition of fascism right? Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Just like how you don't understand what socialism actually is. Ahh, the old “that’s not real socialism” gag. Give it a rest |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 20, 2018 16:34:36 GMT -5
Like I’ve said to someone previously, you do understand that is textbook definition of fascism right? Just like how you don't understand what socialism actually is. Wow, that sounds exactly like the current U.S. presidential administration. Thanks. |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 16:39:19 GMT -5
Like I’ve said to someone previously, you do understand that is textbook definition of fascism right? Ok, up to this point I took you seriously. They're allowed to own and buy guns, just not guns that the fucking military uses. Step up your game, dude. Step up my game? What does that even mean? |
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 16:45:32 GMT -5
Ok, up to this point I took you seriously. They're allowed to own and buy guns, just not guns that the fucking military uses. Step up your game, dude. Step up my game? What does that even mean? The King of comebacks strikes again! Your arguments have once again proved to be inferior to mine. To answer your question, I guess it means something like "for someone that always asks of everyone else to debate seriously, please debate seriously". |
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Post by Manualex on May 20, 2018 16:48:02 GMT -5
Yes, that particular post was insulting. You said Americans were fucked up. I don't understand how that is insulting if you give a gun to a kid you are fucked up! if you glamorize a 4 year old handling a huge gun it is fucked up selling assault rifles to any common folk is wrong I really don't know how to say this without you feeling so insulted, but the first step is recognizing there is a problem. It seems like there's something some Americans should open their minds and start giving it some thought |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 16:59:29 GMT -5
Step up my game? What does that even mean? The King of comebacks strikes again! Your arguments have once again proved to be inferior to mine. To answer your question, I guess it means something like "for someone that always asks of everyone else to debate seriously, please debate seriously". This is incredibly childish |
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 17:11:13 GMT -5
The King of comebacks strikes again! Your arguments have once again proved to be inferior to mine. To answer your question, I guess it means something like "for someone that always asks of everyone else to debate seriously, please debate seriously". This is incredibly childish And of course it isn't childish to write "what does that even mean?" in regards to a phrase you didn't understand/hadn't heard of, instead of trying to defend your ridiculous claim that what I proposed would somehow be "textbook fascism". |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 17:19:54 GMT -5
This is incredibly childish And of course it isn't childish to write "what does that even mean?" in regards to a phrase you didn't understand/hadn't heard of, instead of trying to defend your ridiculous claim that what I proposed would somehow be "textbook fascism". The government taking away guns from civilians who legally obtained them is fascism |
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 17:25:14 GMT -5
And of course it isn't childish to write "what does that even mean?" in regards to a phrase you didn't understand/hadn't heard of, instead of trying to defend your ridiculous claim that what I proposed would somehow be "textbook fascism". The government taking away guns from civilians who legally obtained them is fascism Not if you make those types of guns illegal. |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 17:34:51 GMT -5
The government taking away guns from civilians who legally obtained them is fascism Not if you make those types of guns illegal. But they're not |
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Post by funhouse on May 20, 2018 17:38:22 GMT -5
Not if you make those types of guns illegal. But they're not Maybe I was unclear. The guns should be made illegal first, then taken away/replaced/whatever, not the other way round. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on May 20, 2018 18:05:49 GMT -5
Really? Ok, from the top of my head: Proper background checks which would stop clearly mentally ill people from (legally)purchasing guns. And no gun shops should be able to sell(for example) assault rifles. Those are military weapons, you don't need it for hunting, you don't need it to protect yourself. Those two would be a good way to start, I think. Why shouldn’t someone be allowed to on assault rifles? I’m not being antagonistic, what if someone likes collecting those kinds of guns? And what do you mean by “proper” background checks? We already have back ground checks, what else should change?So sad to see these ongoing incidents  @isness seems quite the sensible chap. As I reviewed this. Lots of room for improvement bro. www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun-background-check-nics-guide/Gun owner and US Navy vet, honorably discharged here. Is this really the right venue for you to push your point? Oasis forever  |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 20, 2018 18:34:26 GMT -5
Why shouldn’t someone be allowed to on assault rifles? I’m not being antagonistic, what if someone likes collecting those kinds of guns? And what do you mean by “proper” background checks? We already have back ground checks, what else should change?So sad to see these ongoing incidents [img class="smile" alt=" " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png"] @isness seems quite the sensible chap. As I reviewed this. Lots of room for improvement bro. www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun-background-check-nics-guide/Gun owner and US Navy vet, honorably discharged here. Is this really the right venue for you to push your point? Oasis forever Im just asking what can be improved, I’m not “pushing a point.” |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on May 20, 2018 19:23:03 GMT -5
So sad to see these ongoing incidents [img class="smile" alt=" " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png"] @isness seems quite the sensible chap. As I reviewed this. Lots of room for improvement bro. www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun-background-check-nics-guide/Gun owner and US Navy vet, honorably discharged here. Is this really the right venue for you to push your point? Oasis forever Im just asking what can be improved, I’m not “pushing a point.” If you've read what I posted, the deficiencies seem obvious. Europeans have a different experience than we do. That explains their different viewpoint. They had war in their homelands. I would never support a European Union type thing in the US. But I get why they do. When presenting your point, you need to take into account your audience. Then have a chill once in a while. Lighten up mate. And post some stuff about Oasis and cats |
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Post by Manualex on May 20, 2018 22:32:20 GMT -5
Did anyone expected a different outcome? Living/traveling abroad was always a dream but nos it could be a necesity.
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