Who...who said Marx wasn't a communist? And no, not once have you given an example of any of the countries you're talking about implementing communist ideology - and you know you haven't. In fairness, you have a good reason - they don't exist. 

Look, you need to understand why what you're saying doesn't work. Just because places like the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba etc call themselves communist or socialist doesn't mean they are. People like to use Sweden as an example of socialism being good, but I'll say the same reply to them. It's not socialism. Look at all the major socialist and communist literature for centuries, look at the philosophy and you will see these meanings and these meanings only: 

Socialism: Worker's control of production

Communism: A form of socialism in which there is no state and power is decentralised to communities.

That's what they are. Now, whenever they have been applied, they have been internal successes. I don't have to defend any of those countries, no matter how horrible they are, because they never one tried to implement the ideology I support. I have deepest empathy for all those who had their freedom, food, or even lives taken away from them by fascism (or state-capitalism in Venezuela's case), but it was not because of communism. In fact, you are the one here who supports the state. I don't. Your ideology has more in common with those countries than mine does. 

And it's true that over time, the popular definition of the words has been distorted by the propaganda systems both in the west and in the fascist states, to create these meanings: 


Socialism: State ownership, regulation of capitalism

Communism: Total state control

Anarchism: Chaos, no rules. 

Now you're right, these ARE very dangerous, particularly the last two. In the first two, this is what is being applied in the countries you are talking about. But the problem is that these definitions are false. They do not represent any of the socialist thought or understanding for hundreds and hundreds of years, it completely ignores Marx's and every other communists understanding of their own ideology. It's not what anarchism means, its not what any anarchists want. Regardless of how many people use the words to mean this things, it doesn't change the fact that that's not what the ideology supports.

So, I'm sorry, but you ARE wrong. The facts, the history, everything, is against you. All you can do is repeat your baseless argument and make emotional appeals. You're wrong. 

This thread is gonna get an award. Which one ? Future will tell us

Weren't you the guy who said that the U.S.A was the best place to live in?

What did I say that was “absurd” to you?

I edited some of the posts to avoid further insults. I went away for a couple of hours and came back to 5 new pages (!) to be honest this isn't a topic I'm into but you guys made a good debate with interesting points. just try to keep it clean and respectful
cheers

PS: any suggestions about a thread name?

Just this year Venezuela has moved towards a communist autocracy by leader Maduro. But oh wait, I give lazy examples so ignore my input

Just this year Venezuela has moved towards a communist autocracy by leader Maduro. But oh wait, I give lazy examples so ignore my input

It’s moving from socialism to communism. Those days of redistributing the wealth to the poor and gaining high praise from large parts of the country are over. The country is running out of money. This type of communist autocracy will do little to fix the damage that has been done

I’m just telling you what I’ve learned from recent news. There’s elements of communism within this change of government policy. Are all of the news outlets that reported this wrong?

Oh, it's just the state redistributing wealth while private ownership continues? Sounds like state-capitalism to me.