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Post by space75gr on Oct 15, 2017 4:21:47 GMT -5
...cause its a really bad track. thats all. nothing more , nothing less.
=I dont have any problem with Noel takin' a dance direction, but HM has nothing to do with a dance track/music.
=I dont have any problem with Noel experimenting, but HM has nothing to do with an experimental track.
The only experimental thing here is his great talent to rip off other artists (and in that case R martin fgs)n i dont have a problem with that but calling that experimental is like calling harry styles the new Bowie!
=I dont have any problem with Noel sounding different, but HM doesnt sound different. Its his old flat, fat boring sound, when Noel s in his worst.
A few production tricks dont make it dancey, experimental or different.
If i want to hear a great Noel track, thanks God, i have "The death Of You and Me", "Riverman" or "If i had a gun".
if i want to hear a dancey, experimental or different song by Noel, thanks God, i have "setting sun", "let forever be", "falling down", "what a life", "BOTMI" or "the right stuff". Those were great tunes. HM is not.
and thats nothing to do with #teams. Even Noel diehard fans dislike it for the same reasons.
note : for people who say that hm sounds like a song for kids or a disney song, please stop it, unless you want to punish your kids!!!
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Post by dampcottage on Oct 15, 2017 7:21:31 GMT -5
thanks to you i just made a playlist of teotihuacan,what a life,let forever be,setting sun,the right stuff,falling down,ballad of the mighty i,if anyone has any suggestions for 3 more that makes a pretty spectacular album! oh and holy mountain is not that bad,i just dont think its what any of us expected,still a pretty good tune!
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 15, 2017 8:17:57 GMT -5
thanks to you i just made a playlist of teotihuacan,what a life,let forever be,setting sun,the right stuff,falling down,ballad of the mighty i,if anyone has any suggestions for 3 more that makes a pretty spectacular album! oh and holy mountain is not that bad,i just dont think its what any of us expected,still a pretty good tune! Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, The Hundu Times (Demo), Where Did It All Go Wrong? (Demo), Waiting For The Rapture (Alternate Version) and Come On Outside |
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Post by spaneli on Oct 15, 2017 8:36:23 GMT -5
thanks to you i just made a playlist of teotihuacan,what a life,let forever be,setting sun,the right stuff,falling down,ballad of the mighty i,if anyone has any suggestions for 3 more that makes a pretty spectacular album! oh and holy mountain is not that bad,i just dont think its what any of us expected,still a pretty good tune! Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, The Hundu Times (Demo), Where Did It All Go Wrong? (Demo), Waiting For The Rapture (Alternate Version) and Come On Outside I think WFTR alt. version is really one of those great lost Oasis songs. I'd put it in the top 3 of his vocals on record. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 15, 2017 8:42:11 GMT -5
Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, The Hundu Times (Demo), Where Did It All Go Wrong? (Demo), Waiting For The Rapture (Alternate Version) and Come On Outside I think WFTR alt. version is really one of those great lost Oasis songs. I'd put it in the top 3 of his vocals on record. Yep, I love it. |
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 15, 2017 10:17:32 GMT -5
From my point of view, there is a big problem in this album. The problem is that Noel has changed entirely his method of work. It is known the talent Noel has, but is difficult even for him to change his method. He is a 50-year-old man, he used to work in other way since early 90's, and now for the last 2 years he has worked the opposite direction he used to. For that reason I feel really pessimistic about the album. I think it will be the worst album of his solo work, and it is because of that. Maybe if he had worked in the same way as previous years and the new psychodelic-electronic-60's french pop-whatever way, the album would have been the best album of the year (at least). But I think Chris Moyles and Noel has failed to chase that way of work. I hope I will be wrong... I'm worried too that he has changed, or shall i say been told by the producer to change his method of songwriting, i write songs myself on an acoustic like Noel does and 1 idea for a song can come at you at any time of the day, you could be shopping or shagging....either way you often need to do it in your own time, especially with the other parts of the song that will follow....offen a song can take days or weeks just to get the basic foundation layed... I can't imagine how much pressure you would put on yourself to go and try write all your album in the studio with a set timeframe, what if you don't feel inspired that day? Do you just wheel out the best thing you can muster up? I'm worried but also optimistic at the same time because our Noely is a genius of epic proportions... |
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Oct 15, 2017 20:45:56 GMT -5
First of all, I don't dance. Music to me is something to either be experienced in full in a dark room with great headphones or speakers or something to have on in the background to enhance the mood while I do day to day things. That's it. I'm not saying I have anything against him making dance songs, but its utility as that is meaningless to me.
In fact, one of the things I always thought most of us liked about Oasis was that they had the nerve to more or less just stand there all the way through their gigs and let the music speak on its own. I don't want to see Noel turn around at fifty and start shaking his skinny butt on stage trying to make us forget how bad this song is after that.
I don't see the connection to any of the songs people have been naming. RAW? RWI? Those had peaks and valleys. He let those songs breathe. Maybe Lyla because of the siren being so tacky.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 16, 2017 3:13:02 GMT -5
From my point of view, there is a big problem in this album. The problem is that Noel has changed entirely his method of work. It is known the talent Noel has, but is difficult even for him to change his method. He is a 50-year-old man, he used to work in other way since early 90's, and now for the last 2 years he has worked the opposite direction he used to. For that reason I feel really pessimistic about the album. I think it will be the worst album of his solo work, and it is because of that. Maybe if he had worked in the same way as previous years and the new psychodelic-electronic-60's french pop-whatever way, the album would have been the best album of the year (at least). But I think Chris Moyles and Noel has failed to chase that way of work. I hope I will be wrong... I'm worried too that he has changed, or shall i say been told by the producer to change his method of songwriting, i write songs myself on an acoustic like Noel does and 1 idea for a song can come at you at any time of the day, you could be shopping or shagging....either way you often need to do it in your own time, especially with the other parts of the song that will follow....offen a song can take days or weeks just to get the basic foundation layed... I can't imagine how much pressure you would put on yourself to go and try write all your album in the studio with a set timeframe, what if you don't feel inspired that day? Do you just wheel out the best thing you can muster up? I'm worried but also optimistic at the same time because our Noely is a genius of epic proportions... This took him about 3 years. It's not like he had an insanely small timeframe to work in. |
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 16, 2017 3:25:48 GMT -5
I'm worried too that he has changed, or shall i say been told by the producer to change his method of songwriting, i write songs myself on an acoustic like Noel does and 1 idea for a song can come at you at any time of the day, you could be shopping or shagging....either way you often need to do it in your own time, especially with the other parts of the song that will follow....offen a song can take days or weeks just to get the basic foundation layed... I can't imagine how much pressure you would put on yourself to go and try write all your album in the studio with a set timeframe, what if you don't feel inspired that day? Do you just wheel out the best thing you can muster up? I'm worried but also optimistic at the same time because our Noely is a genius of epic proportions... This took him about 3 years. It's not like he had an insanely small timeframe to work in. By timeframe I meant the time spent in the studio each day, from what i've heard Noel say on the subject - he alludes to the possible fact that Holmes instructed him to write the songs in the studio rather than his default method of doing it in his own time on an acoustic guitar. If that's the case then i would imagine he would be putting alot of pressure on himself trying to come up with ideas with someone else in the room with him, i'd find it extremely difficult, but then again it may just be a revelation to us and him, we will soon find out. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 16, 2017 4:22:07 GMT -5
This took him about 3 years. It's not like he had an insanely small timeframe to work in. By timeframe I meant the time spent in the studio each day, from what i've heard Noel say on the subject - he alludes to the possible fact that Holmes instructed him to write the songs in the studio rather than his default method of doing it in his own time on an acoustic guitar. If that's the case then i would imagine he would be putting alot of pressure on himself trying to come up with ideas with someone else in the room with him, i'd find it extremely difficult, but then again it may just be a revelation to us and him, we will soon find out. This is why the songs we will get will probably be more rhythm based than melody based. Holy Mountain is the clear example of that. There's a couple of hooks, but otherwise, it's not a very melodic song, which was Noel's trademark. it's a very twitchy melody with a fast paced rhythm, usually what you get when you write in the studio or within a band context. I dont believe we will get any DLBIA kinda of songs on this record. It will be different, and i cant wait to hear the result. |
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 16, 2017 5:34:51 GMT -5
By timeframe I meant the time spent in the studio each day, from what i've heard Noel say on the subject - he alludes to the possible fact that Holmes instructed him to write the songs in the studio rather than his default method of doing it in his own time on an acoustic guitar. If that's the case then i would imagine he would be putting alot of pressure on himself trying to come up with ideas with someone else in the room with him, i'd find it extremely difficult, but then again it may just be a revelation to us and him, we will soon find out. This is why the songs we will get will probably be more rhythm based than melody based. Holy Mountain is the clear example of that. There's a couple of hooks, but otherwise, it's not a very melodic song, which was Noel's trademark. it's a very twitchy melody with a fast paced rhythm, usually what you get when you write in the studio or within a band context. I dont believe we will get any DLBIA kinda of songs on this record. It will be different, and i cant wait to hear the result. Agreed, the fact he has written this album differently to any way he has worked before definitely intrigues me, it also concerns me given the fact Noel's strong melodies are what i have always favoured over his lyrics or the music that accompanies them. The lack of strong hooks or melody in HM is why i'm not a fan of it, it just seems like a lazy b-side than a lead single in that regard. The album clips do sound very promising though. |
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 16, 2017 6:20:11 GMT -5
Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, The Hundu Times (Demo), Where Did It All Go Wrong? (Demo), Waiting For The Rapture (Alternate Version) and Come On Outside I think WFTR alt. version is really one of those great lost Oasis songs. I'd put it in the top 3 of his vocals on record. i hate that he had to turn it into a doors rip off. potential wasted |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 16, 2017 6:56:41 GMT -5
I played Holy Mountain and my dog left the room..........
She's a stoner rock fan though, not her vibes.
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Post by Derrick on Oct 16, 2017 13:34:56 GMT -5
For me, it's just a kitsch version of "Mucky fingers" with a flute.
Not what I call experimental, "The right stuff" was much more interesting in that regard.
The song itself isn't great, a bit of an earworm but that in itself doesn't mean quality. I can listen to it without cringing, I won't skip it when I listen to the album, but it's rather b-side than single material for me.
Again, the main problem I have with this song is that I heard it in 2005 when it was released on "Don't believe the truth" with a better production.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 14:42:31 GMT -5
I really wanted to like this one but I just can’t bring myself to listen to it without shaking my head with disapproval.
Definitely not one of Noel’s better songs, hopefully there’s better to come.
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Post by matt on Oct 16, 2017 14:46:16 GMT -5
Sounds nothing like anything from post-90s Oasis. Far more upbeat and uptempo, can't hear the comparisons at all.
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