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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 21, 2017 11:27:19 GMT -5
I haven't listened to this song once in the last 5 days or so I don't feel the urge to either. This has to be the first time happening to me since becoming a fan in 1997. It hurts my ears. And I'm not trying to annoy people here. I'm as big a Noel Gallagher fan as anyone on here. IMO he's the best songwriter of the last 30 years, up there with the greats but I'm just so disappointed with this song. Strange how this song polarizes opinion. I can't get it out my head. Same here. I'm actually discovering it gets better and better with each listen. |
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Post by matt on Oct 21, 2017 11:32:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry but for those who like it, including the critics - yet again - who has said it is 'experimental'? Putting words in the mouth of those who like it I think. The fact it isn't experimental and is a straight up pop a song is a further indictment on a some of those Oasis fans who hate it, further proving their conservative and narrow minded tastes.Hang on a sec, forget about "narrow minded" Oasis fans, does it appeal to the general public as a straight up pop song should do? Isn't commercial reception an indicator then? Didn't realise that all great pop songs have to be chart hits.  |
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Post by spaneli on Oct 21, 2017 11:35:47 GMT -5
Hang on a sec, forget about "narrow minded" Oasis fans, does it appeal to the general public as a straight up pop song should do? Isn't commercial reception an indicator then? Didn't realise that all great pop songs have to be chart hits. People need to the great multitude of fantastic 60s pop that never became hits. The definition for pop has been bastardized as a chart hit rather than a sound, much like people assuming that a Rock song has to have guitars. |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Oct 21, 2017 11:53:18 GMT -5
Didn't realise that all great pop songs have to be chart hits. People need to the great multitude of fantastic 60s pop that never became hits. The definition for pop has been bastardized as a chart hit rather than a sound, much like people assuming that a Rock song has to have guitars. it is chart music isnt it? it doesnt have a particular sound. the sound evolves with the trend of the day... |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 21, 2017 11:53:32 GMT -5
If "dance dance if you do that dance" is supposed to be fun and eccentric surely Noel can do better. Well, he did - Probably the weakest song on Morning Glory for me - I prfer Digsy's Dinner. This one is too derivative and knowing of its influences to be too eccentric. She's Eccentric. |
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Post by mostlyharmless on Oct 21, 2017 11:56:16 GMT -5
Hang on a sec, forget about "narrow minded" Oasis fans, does it appeal to the general public as a straight up pop song should do? Isn't commercial reception an indicator then? Didn't realise that all great pop songs have to be chart hits. Indeed, but I think that's due to limited exposure - for good pop songs people who have a chance to hear them would love them. Which is not quite the case here. It's just an meh pop song. Of course you can say that's because they are all stubborn and conservative Oasis fans. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 21, 2017 11:56:39 GMT -5
I think Arcade Fire's Everything Now is one of the best songs released this year and it didn't even do that well in the charts, apparently.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 21, 2017 12:03:48 GMT -5
People need to the great multitude of fantastic 60s pop that never became hits. The definition for pop has been bastardized as a chart hit rather than a sound, much like people assuming that a Rock song has to have guitars. it is chart music isnt it? it doesnt have a particular sound. the sound evolves with the trend of the day... In one sense. But if someone is clearly aping 60s pop, then he's copying a trend that was once popular. So, something can be pop, not charting, and still be trying to go for a particular sound. |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Oct 21, 2017 12:16:38 GMT -5
it is chart music isnt it? it doesnt have a particular sound. the sound evolves with the trend of the day... In one sense. But if someone is clearly aping 60s pop, then he's copying a trend that was once popular. So, something can be pop, not charting, and still be trying to go for a particular sound.but pop doesnt have a 'particular sound' does it...? and copying an old 60s pop song doesnt automatically make it pop by todays standards. i guess its just semantics. |
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Post by glider on Oct 21, 2017 17:04:05 GMT -5
She's Electric is lovely little pop song which I would say is in a different league to Holy Mountain, melody wise, production wise, vocal wise and even the lyrics are better. She's Electric is criminally underrated amongst Oasis fans and why? For the life of me I do not know. It was single material. Shoot me. People would kill to compose something as clever as She's Electric's melody. Pop perfection. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 18:16:39 GMT -5
I'm sure I heard this on Match of the Day...
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Oct 21, 2017 20:26:54 GMT -5
This is the best thing Mick Jagger ever did besides Gimme Shelter and Exile.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 21, 2017 20:41:46 GMT -5
I'm sure I heard this on Match of the Day... Think i heard it for the segment advertising MOTD2. They use any Liam or Noel related songs on football shows these days. Great exposure. |
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Post by revol on Oct 22, 2017 4:27:32 GMT -5
If there is any "fanboy-ism" going on, then I'm a Noel fanboy, I actually love "These Swollen Hand Blues", and "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks" is one of my favourite post-Oasis tunes. I don't mind listening to "Oh Lord!". "She must be One of Us" is also a nice sonic experience to me. However, it doesn't that I have to like everything that Noel produces. "Holy Mountain" is just not a good song in my opinion. And for sure it's not a great lead single. I gave it a spin a couple of times and that's it. I don't feel any need/urge to come back to it. I still have high hopes for the album, though.
But, you know, even the greatest artists can fail when they attempt something "new". Macca with his Wings disco-period, Bowie with the abomination called "Tonight" or Lou Reed with the atrocious "New Sensations".
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 22, 2017 9:38:08 GMT -5
NGFHB first singles are never bangers or biggest hits on the record, not even most commercial. It's still an on going trend in Noel's solo career. I remember him saying that If I Had A Gun was meant to be the first single off his debut and be this here i am kind of comeback tunes, but he changed his mind in the last minute for Death Of You And Me which isn't like that at all, same with In The Heat Of The Moment, it's not the strongest song on the album at all. So chill...
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Post by bestwick8 on Oct 22, 2017 11:39:31 GMT -5
I think Arcade Fire's Everything Now is one of the best songs released this year and it didn't even do that well in the charts, apparently. This is by far the best song of the year so far. There tour didn't do too hot either, tickets going down to $20 and upper bowls being closed out completely. They couldn't even sell out half the arena when I went to see them. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 22, 2017 11:43:41 GMT -5
If there is any "fanboy-ism" going on, then I'm a Noel fanboy, I actually love "These Swollen Hand Blues", and "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks" is one of my favourite post-Oasis tunes. I don't mind listening to "Oh Lord!". "She must be One of Us" is also a nice sonic experience to me. However, it doesn't that I have to like everything that Noel produces. "Holy Mountain" is just not a good song in my opinion. And for sure it's not a great lead single. I gave it a spin a couple of times and that's it. I don't feel any need/urge to come back to it. I still have high hopes for the album, though. But, you know, even the greatest artists can fail when they attempt something "new". Macca with his Wings disco-period, Bowie with the abomination called "Tonight" or Lou Reed with the atrocious "New Sensations". In what way did Macca fail? Silly Love Songs for instance, (I take it you're talking about that one, among others perhaps) was a big hit and got pretty good reviews. |
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 22, 2017 18:34:17 GMT -5
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 22, 2017 18:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by janedoe on Oct 22, 2017 18:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 22, 2017 18:41:15 GMT -5
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 22, 2017 18:41:53 GMT -5
Liam and all the fat cats in his Pretty Green. Gotta say I love the bickering. Yes would be nice to see them make amends, but its also entertaining and has likely drawn in the fans who had no idea who they were before. I personally think its all in good fun anyways. |
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 22, 2017 18:45:08 GMT -5
Liam and all the fat cats in his Pretty Green. Gotta say I love the bickering. Yes would be nice to see them make amends, but its also entertaining and has likely drawn in the fans who had no idea who they were before. I personally think its all in good fun anyways. Liam/Pretty Green and his team of songwriters are all pretty cynical fat cats. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 22, 2017 18:53:12 GMT -5
Parka Monkeys... He's getting there. I like it better than this eagle vs pigeon thing, still some work to do though. It's kind of like with Liam's songwriting !
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Post by unionpat on Oct 22, 2017 19:10:50 GMT -5
If HM had been written/released in the 90's with Liam on vocals, it would have been the "party" song at every concert. No doubt. Think about it.
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