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Post by Doc Lobster on Oct 2, 2017 8:28:58 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me why this is important in any way?
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 10:07:45 GMT -5
How are people making an judgement on Noel for "no" to a ceremony they won't be invited to for at least two years?
And even if he said "no," it's not like others haven't done the same: from Axl Rose to Paul McCartney.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Oct 2, 2017 10:20:21 GMT -5
is it just me or is noel gallagher turning into a bit of a c_unt Sorry offtopic but I miss your old avatar @driver7 there you go mate back to normal ;0
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Post by ricardogce on Oct 2, 2017 10:31:35 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me why this is important in any way? Because it's an opportunity for a one-off reunion, as has been the case with other major acts.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Oct 2, 2017 11:12:45 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me why this is important in any way? Because it's an opportunity for a one-off reunion, as has been the case with other major acts. Yeah, the world is missing out on another performance of Rock 'N' Roll Star with an angry Liam and Noel looking like he'd rather go feed the ducks in the park or something. Such a tragedy.
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Post by NYR on Oct 2, 2017 13:17:13 GMT -5
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here, but it took Black Sabbath eleven years to get in, 14 years for Rush, 23 years for Deep Purple… the list goes on. The Smiths still aren't in. Neither are Motorhead, New Order/Joy Division, Iron Maiden, The Cure, Tina Turner, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, or Ozzy Osbourne. Why would anyone assume Oasis would get in, especially when they're practically considered one (or two) hit wonders in America?
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 13:33:56 GMT -5
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here, but it took Black Sabbath eleven years to get in, 14 years for Rush, 23 years for Deep Purple… the list goes on. The Smiths still aren't in. Neither are Motorhead, New Order/Joy Division, Iron Maiden, The Cure, Tina Turner, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, or Ozzy Osbourne. Why would anyone assume Oasis would get in, especially when they're practically considered one (or two) hit wonders in America? The Smiths aren't because they were never as big as Oasis. If the Smiths had chart toppers like Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova on their resume, they'd be in. Motorhead and Iron Maiden aren't in because there's a BIG bias against metal and prog rock acts. It's the same reason Judas Priest isn't in. It's same reason it took Black Sabbath and Rush so long to get in. Each case is different and specific, and Oasis's case is actually incredibly strong. Edit: Tina Turner isn't in as a solo act, but she is in as part of Ike and Tina Turner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 13:42:33 GMT -5
Why would anyone assume Oasis would get in, especially when they're practically considered one (or two) hit wonders in America? Why else would they have approached Noel about it already?
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Post by sirpsychosexy on Oct 2, 2017 13:43:51 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me why this is important in any way? Musicians seem to feel very proud when they get inducted and it's a big honor for them. That's really it. Watch literally any induction speech and you'll see how genuine happy they all are to be there. Also a great place for reunions/collaborations and stuff. One of my favorite performances ever is from there
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 14:06:35 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me why this is important in any way? Musicians seem to feel very proud when they get inducted and it's a big honor for them. That's really it. Watch literally any induction speech and you'll see how genuine happy they all are to be there. Also a great place for reunions/collaborations and stuff. One of my favorite performances ever is from there This also one of mine too. Also, news just broke that Tom Petty was found having suffered a heart attack that he's now on life support.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 14:22:39 GMT -5
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here, but it took Black Sabbath eleven years to get in, 14 years for Rush, 23 years for Deep Purple… the list goes on. The Smiths still aren't in. Neither are Motorhead, New Order/Joy Division, Iron Maiden, The Cure, Tina Turner, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, or Ozzy Osbourne. Why would anyone assume Oasis would get in, especially when they're practically considered one (or two) hit wonders in America? They usually show love to the most important members of an important musical movement. Seeing as Oasis is THE band of Britpop, I'd be surprised if they didn't get a nod. That said, I also wouldn't be shocked if it took a number of years for that to happen. Additionally, they won't be able to pass up the chance to try and get Liam/Noel together again. To the OP... asking about this two years out is putting the cart before the horse.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 2, 2017 23:47:16 GMT -5
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Post by NYR on Oct 3, 2017 11:47:07 GMT -5
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here, but it took Black Sabbath eleven years to get in, 14 years for Rush, 23 years for Deep Purple… the list goes on. The Smiths still aren't in. Neither are Motorhead, New Order/Joy Division, Iron Maiden, The Cure, Tina Turner, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, or Ozzy Osbourne. Why would anyone assume Oasis would get in, especially when they're practically considered one (or two) hit wonders in America? The Smiths aren't because they were never as big as Oasis. If the Smiths had chart toppers like Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova on their resume, they'd be in. Motorhead and Iron Maiden aren't in because there's a BIG bias against metal and prog rock acts. It's the same reason Judas Priest isn't in. It's same reason it took Black Sabbath and Rush so long to get in. Each case is different and specific, and Oasis's case is actually incredibly strong. Edit: Tina Turner isn't in as a solo act, but she is in as part of Ike and Tina Turner. Apologies for the cynicism, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Oct 15, 2017 17:03:41 GMT -5
The RNRHOF is largely irrelevant those days as anything from hip hop to soul to jazz to blues to electronica to mainstream pop gets inducted nowadays, so getting a high profile trad rock band to reform for an induction ceremony would probably be good marketing for the HOF. If Oasis were to reform for the HOF, I wouldn't be surprised if the cronies that run the HOF arranged for Oasis to be inducted as soon as they reach HOF eligibility (what will happen in 2019). However, it's pretty obvious that the HOF is not a concern of Liam and Noel, and really shouldn't be.
Still, it would be cool for Oasis to get into the HOF, as it would be a huge statement of their huge name in many places around the world and their gigantic importance for UK's musical history and recent pop culture. It's an uphill battle for them, though, as there's some sort of an anti UK bias in the HOF, as it's largely composed by american pundits and an american audience. For example, The Smiths have been eligible since 2008 and only made the shortlist 7 years later (and failed to get inducted nonetheless). This year The Smiths didn't even make the shortlist, showing just how hard to get to the HOF nowadays. Oasis should only start to have a realistic chance around 2025-2030, unless, of course, they reform or either LG or NGHFB nets a huge, Coldplay-like worldwide success before 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 17:07:00 GMT -5
Then sit at home, surely? Baffling.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Oct 15, 2017 18:37:22 GMT -5
There are 3 other interest things to wonder about Oasis and the HOF:
1 - Who would be the nominated Oasis members? Liam and Noel obviously, and it's 99% likely that Bonehead, Guigsy, Gem and Andy would be nominated as well. It gets trickier when we look at the drummers, though. I think Alan would be in due to his long tenure as the Oasis drummer and the fact that he was with Oasis at their highest point. Tony is a coin toss for me, he was a founding member and the drummer of DM, but his tenure was so short and unimpressive that he could be kept out of the HOF after all. Zak and Chris would be unlikely to get in, as their time with Oasis was too short and they were never official members to begin with.
2 - Who would induct Oasis at the ceremony? It would have to be someone palatable to Liam and Noel, of course, specially if they have reformed by them, as both of them would be on the ceremony. They could go with a relevant British act that is already in the HOF and was influential on the making of Oasis. In this scenario, I think The Who (Roger and Pete, to be more specific) would be the most likely possibility, although they could also go with the Stones or maybe even Paul McCartney. They could also go with a name not yet on the HOF but likely to get in someday, but I don't think it would be easy to find such a name that would mash well with Oasis, making the 1st possibility the most likely one.
3 - Would Oasis be present at the ceremony? If they reform before induction of course they'll be there (Noel wouldn't refuse free press in the USA and Liam wouldn't refuse a nice party). If they don't, then, I'm quite sure Liam (as usual) will be the one enjoying some free drinks in Cleveland.
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Post by johnwesleyharding on Oct 15, 2017 21:37:20 GMT -5
I think Axl did it because he idolized the Sex Pistols and they refused in a handwritten note. There are a lot of really shitty acts that get inducted while great artists remain mired in obscurity so I don't view it as the honor it once was.
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Post by fmc on Oct 16, 2017 5:31:23 GMT -5
"Noel Gallagher took over the famed Capitol Records studio in Los Angeles Thursday night to play a packed house five songs off his upcoming High Flying Birds album “Who Built the Moon?”
Sorry, what?? and we're not discussing this??? Does anyone have more info about it?
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Post by Derrick on Oct 16, 2017 13:16:20 GMT -5
"Noel Gallagher took over the famed Capitol Records studio in Los Angeles Thursday night to play a packed house five songs off his upcoming High Flying Birds album “Who Built the Moon?” Sorry, what?? and we're not discussing this??? Does anyone have more info about it? We did at the time. Nothing much emerged, apart from the fact that those in attendance said that the songs weren't the kind you like instantly (Chris Moyles had said the same thing); they also said these weren't the best conditions to listen to an album as everybody was chatting bit over the music while sipping champagne & eating appetizers. "Fort Knox" is reportedly quite trippy.
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Post by fmc on Oct 16, 2017 15:02:53 GMT -5
"Noel Gallagher took over the famed Capitol Records studio in Los Angeles Thursday night to play a packed house five songs off his upcoming High Flying Birds album “Who Built the Moon?” Sorry, what?? and we're not discussing this??? Does anyone have more info about it? We did at the time. Nothing much emerged, apart from the fact that those in attendance said that the songs weren't the kind you like instantly (Chris Moyles had said the same thing); they also said these weren't the best conditions to listen to an album as everybody was chatting bit over the music while sipping champagne & eating appetizers. "Fort Knox" is reportedly quite trippy. Thanks for that
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 17, 2017 14:40:44 GMT -5
He won’t attend because he knows brother Liam will be there - count on it.
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Post by Velo on Oct 17, 2017 17:01:31 GMT -5
There are 3 other interest things to wonder about Oasis and the HOF: 1 - Who would be the nominated Oasis members? Liam and Noel obviously, and it's 99% likely that Bonehead, Guigsy, Gem and Andy would be nominated as well. It gets trickier when we look at the drummers, though. I think Alan would be in due to his long tenure as the Oasis drummer and the fact that he was with Oasis at their highest point. Tony is a coin toss for me, he was a founding member and the drummer of DM, but his tenure was so short and unimpressive that he could be kept out of the HOF after all. Zak and Chris would be unlikely to get in, as their time with Oasis was too short and they were never official members to begin with. 2 - Who would induct Oasis at the ceremony? It would have to be someone palatable to Liam and Noel, of course, specially if they have reformed by them, as both of them would be on the ceremony. They could go with a relevant British act that is already in the HOF and was influential on the making of Oasis. In this scenario, I think The Who (Roger and Pete, to be more specific) would be the most likely possibility, although they could also go with the Stones or maybe even Paul McCartney. They could also go with a name not yet on the HOF but likely to get in someday, but I don't think it would be easy to find such a name that would mash well with Oasis, making the 1st possibility the most likely one. 3 - Would Oasis be present at the ceremony? If they reform before induction of course they'll be there (Noel wouldn't refuse free press in the USA and Liam wouldn't refuse a nice party). If they don't, then, I'm quite sure Liam (as usual) will be the one enjoying some free drinks in Cleveland. RRHOF gets super weird with drummers. I'd wager the WTSMG lineup gets inducted, with a small chance Tony also gets recognized. Then maybe MK2. They'd also likely pick a younger/popular British musician to speak on their influence as a band. Alex Turner maybe?
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on Oct 18, 2017 10:14:52 GMT -5
I still don't think Oasis should necessarily be making records and touring again. What we've gotten from both camps since the breakup has been far more interesting to me than the last few Oasis albums. If they were back together it'd have to be Noel 100% on songwriting, and Liam singing 90% of the songs. None of that Gem and Andy writing tunes, and Noel not singing nearly all his own songs. The Liam sung Noel written Oasis formula died after SOTSOG. The solo careers hardly have changed the song output (though with As You Were and Who Built the Moon? this is changing a bit)
All that said, reforming for one night for a big honor like this is a must. I really hope they put things aside and just do it.
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Post by rorymcbride on Oct 18, 2017 10:56:20 GMT -5
I hate these boring lighthouse polishers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 16:03:21 GMT -5
I listen to Oasis almost every day.
Every time I read something like this I dislike Noel Gallagher a little more.
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