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Post by bogaloo on Apr 23, 2018 7:16:49 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert. The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome. I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. Very frustrating. I think the mistake was a lack of well-known Oasis songs to jeer the crowd up. Go Let It Out wasn't one of their biggest, well-known tracks anyway, so I'm not sure why it was chosen, and that song also really emphasised the absence of Liam's voice. The other Oasis tracks were rather odd choices too, and to think of the songs he could have gone with. There seemed to be more Oasis Mk2 tracks than Mk1 songs which was strange, and having none from BHN just pissed me off even more. Noel trying to make some sort of statement again maybe? The one real dud song in the entire gig was Be Careful What You Wish For, which really killed the momentum. That song is probably the weakest on the album anyway, and why it was selected I'll never know. Its slow, meandering, doesn't go anywhere, and not appropriate at all for concerts. Half the World Away managed to get the crowd going, but Wonderwall fell a bit flat too, due to the way Noel was singing it. Overall, the concert sounded great, the laser light show and back screen videos looked very cool, but the atmosphere from the audience was strange at times, some of the track selections were odd, and the decision to go with more solo material than Oasis tracks was a big mistake in my book. I can see now why Liam is knocking it out of the park at live gigs in comparison to this. I personally didn't fancy going to a Liam concert due to the worry of being subjected to piss flying around and too many dickheads - a big drawback to the old Oasis gigs in their day, but in comparison to the lacklustre audience last night, Noel's gig went too far in the other direction. It's amazing how opinions differ... This is the first NG gig I'm really looking forward to. Saw him in 2012, skipped last tour because I was very busy at the time and because I though the setlist didn't add much to the previous tour and he wasn't playing my favourite songs off CY- BOTMI, TRS, WTSRTS. This time around I really want to see the gig because I've grown to love the new album and from what I gather from YouTube videos the band is sounding great. I can't see how BCWYWF can be a low point because I love that song and I love Ysee on it, particularly the live version! But I guess I'll have to judge it when I see it... The same with TRS, but that I can understand why some may not get it live. The songs he's playing from WBTM and CY, pretty much fill my checklist- Bar TMWBTM, which must be difficult to translate live. If he would add Alone on the rope and maybe TDOYAM and SOTWB it would be the full checklist done. I really don't mind for the lack of oasis' songs. If anything, i'd rathered him dropping LBL (as I've grown to hate it) and add Falling Down. From what I've seen, I don't mind GLIO, I don't love it, don't hate it either. I love TIOBI. I, personally speaking wouldn't mind he dropped WW or DLBIA, but that's just me, and I understand why he's still playing those. It's no surprise for me he's not playing songs from BHN, he hates that album apparently. Granted, this is not a tradicional rock gig and going there expecting that is a mistake. As it os a mistake to expect loads of oasis' songs- Still, Noel seems to be playing the songs he believe people want to hear the most. Obviously it's impossible to keep everyone pleased. From the live videos and people comments Noel does seem to be making a statement- this is not oasis- he was possibly initially surprised by the public's reaction but is sticking to the plan, regardless. It may even explain some of the recent interactions with the crowds (or their absence, in the case). I don't know if he'll manage to keep true to it, but I sure hope he will. This is the album and the tour that made me intersted again, I wouldn't mind some more work and depht regarding lyrics for a new album, but most definitely wouldn't want him going back to the traditional sound- it's done and dusted.
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Post by mockba08 on Apr 23, 2018 7:27:44 GMT -5
Who's supporting on the UK tour?
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:33:53 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert. The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome. I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. Very frustrating. I think the mistake was a lack of well-known Oasis songs to jeer the crowd up. Go Let It Out wasn't one of their biggest, well-known tracks anyway, so I'm not sure why it was chosen, and that song also really emphasised the absence of Liam's voice. The other Oasis tracks were rather odd choices too, and to think of the songs he could have gone with. There seemed to be more Oasis Mk2 tracks than Mk1 songs which was strange, and having none from BHN just pissed me off even more. Noel trying to make some sort of statement again maybe? The one real dud song in the entire gig was Be Careful What You Wish For, which really killed the momentum. That song is probably the weakest on the album anyway, and why it was selected I'll never know. Its slow, meandering, doesn't go anywhere, and not appropriate at all for concerts. Half the World Away managed to get the crowd going, but Wonderwall fell a bit flat too, due to the way Noel was singing it. Overall, the concert sounded great, the laser light show and back screen videos looked very cool, but the atmosphere from the audience was strange at times, some of the track selections were odd, and the decision to go with more solo material than Oasis tracks was a big mistake in my book. I can see now why Liam is knocking it out of the park at live gigs in comparison to this. I personally didn't fancy going to a Liam concert due to the worry of being subjected to piss flying around and too many dickheads - a big drawback to the old Oasis gigs in their day, but in comparison to the lacklustre audience last night, Noel's gig went too far in the other direction. It's amazing how opinions differ... This is the first NG gig I'm really looking forward to. Saw him in 2012, skipped last tour because I was very busy at the time and because I though the setlist didn't add much to the previous tour and he wasn't playing my favourite songs off CY- BOTMI, TRS, WTSRTS. This time around I really want to see the gig because I've grown to love the new album and from what I gather from YouTube videos the band is sounding great. I can't see how BCWYWF can be a low point because I love that song and I love Ysee on it, particularly the live version! But I guess I'll have to judge it when I see it... The same with TRS, but that I can understand why some may not get it live. The songs he's playing from WBTM and CY, pretty much fill my checklist- Bar TMWBTM, which must be difficult to translate live. If he would add Alone on the rope and maybe TDOYAM and SOTWB it would be the full checklist done. I really don't mind for the lack of oasis' songs. If anything, i'd rathered him dropping LBL (as I've grown to hate it) and add Falling Down. From what I've seen, I don't mind GLIO, I don't love it, don't hate it either. I love TIOBI. I, personally speaking wouldn't mind he dropped WW or DLBIA, but that's just me, and I understand why he's still playing those. It's no surprise for me he's not playing songs from BHN, he hates that album apparently. Granted, this is not a tradicional rock gig and going there expecting that is a mistake. As it os a mistake to expect loads of oasis' songs- Still, Noel seems to be playing the songs he believe people want to hear the most. Obviously it's impossible to keep everyone pleased. From the live videos and people comments Noel does seem to be making a statement- this is not oasis- he was possibly initially surprised by the public's reaction but is sticking to the plan, regardless. It may even explain some of the recent interactions with the crowds (or their absence, in the case). I don't know if he'll manage to keep true to it, but I sure hope he will. This is the album and the tour that made me intersted again, I wouldn't mind some more work and depht regarding lyrics for a new album, but most definitely wouldn't want him going back to the traditional sound- it's done and dusted. Personally I loved most of the new solo stuff live, probably far more than the Oasis tracks he played (as they would be far down on my most loved tracks list anyway). It was just strange hearing it sound so great, and witnessing a lifeless, subdued audience listening to it, appearing mostly static throughout. Whatever Noel's intentions are with his choice of track list and new direction, I doubt he will want to witness too much of this reaction in all the venues he plays at. Maybe Brighton wasn't the right location, and things may get more lively when he plays up north.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:35:26 GMT -5
Who's supporting on the UK tour? Baxter Dury, who really did go down like a lead balloon. The 2 people sat next to me didn't even bother watching. They only turned up at 9pm when Noel came on.
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Post by mockba08 on Apr 23, 2018 7:50:51 GMT -5
Who's supporting on the UK tour? Baxter Dury, who really did go down like a lead balloon. The 2 people sat next to me didn't even bother watching. They only turned up at 9pm when Noel came on. Is that for all the dates?
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Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 7:52:04 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience YSee definitely improved the song. Noel even made a quip beforehand, something along the lines about her making a shit song sound great, which I thought was a bit telling. The Right Stuff laser show was awesome, but again the song just didn't seem to play well to the crowd. It appeared obvious at the end of the gig that they wanted more Oasis, less solo. During those songs it was the only time the crowd appeared animated. I understand the need for Noel to promote his solo stuff too, particularly the new album, but it did feel a bit like there was too much of that, and not enough old tracks to keep the crowd entertained enough. I think he could drop one of Dream On/Ballad Of The Mighty I for an Oasis song and it would probably solve that little issue. But he's playing 6 big Oasis tunes, and it seems some are complaining that's not enough, yet others are complaining they're not the right ones.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 23, 2018 8:18:29 GMT -5
Who's supporting on the UK tour? Baxter Dury, who really did go down like a lead balloon. The 2 people sat next to me didn't even bother watching. They only turned up at 9pm when Noel came on. Can't say Blossoms went over too well over here either.
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Post by bogaloo on Apr 23, 2018 8:34:40 GMT -5
It's amazing how opinions differ... This is the first NG gig I'm really looking forward to. Saw him in 2012, skipped last tour because I was very busy at the time and because I though the setlist didn't add much to the previous tour and he wasn't playing my favourite songs off CY- BOTMI, TRS, WTSRTS. This time around I really want to see the gig because I've grown to love the new album and from what I gather from YouTube videos the band is sounding great. I can't see how BCWYWF can be a low point because I love that song and I love Ysee on it, particularly the live version! But I guess I'll have to judge it when I see it... The same with TRS, but that I can understand why some may not get it live. The songs he's playing from WBTM and CY, pretty much fill my checklist- Bar TMWBTM, which must be difficult to translate live. If he would add Alone on the rope and maybe TDOYAM and SOTWB it would be the full checklist done. I really don't mind for the lack of oasis' songs. If anything, i'd rathered him dropping LBL (as I've grown to hate it) and add Falling Down. From what I've seen, I don't mind GLIO, I don't love it, don't hate it either. I love TIOBI. I, personally speaking wouldn't mind he dropped WW or DLBIA, but that's just me, and I understand why he's still playing those. It's no surprise for me he's not playing songs from BHN, he hates that album apparently. Granted, this is not a tradicional rock gig and going there expecting that is a mistake. As it os a mistake to expect loads of oasis' songs- Still, Noel seems to be playing the songs he believe people want to hear the most. Obviously it's impossible to keep everyone pleased. From the live videos and people comments Noel does seem to be making a statement- this is not oasis- he was possibly initially surprised by the public's reaction but is sticking to the plan, regardless. It may even explain some of the recent interactions with the crowds (or their absence, in the case). I don't know if he'll manage to keep true to it, but I sure hope he will. This is the album and the tour that made me intersted again, I wouldn't mind some more work and depht regarding lyrics for a new album, but most definitely wouldn't want him going back to the traditional sound- it's done and dusted. Personally I loved most of the new solo stuff live, probably far more than the Oasis tracks he played (as they would be far down on my most loved tracks list anyway). It was just strange hearing it sound so great, and witnessing a lifeless, subdued audience listening to it, appearing mostly static throughout. Whatever Noel's intentions are with his choice of track list and new direction, I doubt he will want to witness too much of this reaction in all the venues he plays at. Maybe Brighton wasn't the right location, and things may get more lively when he plays up north. Exactly, if it's sounding that great, then its possibly more a question of inadequacy of the audience to the band than anything else. I also think that he's possibly not enjoying this reaction either, and far less the 'Liam-heckling' windheads. And this is my fear, because I for once like the new songs and couldn't care less for the oasis songs he chooses to play or not. This is me being selfish, yes, allow me to it. Everyone else going to any NG gig for the sole purpose of reliving the past is way more selfish and it is unfair for the artist also.
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Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 8:43:08 GMT -5
Baxter Dury, who really did go down like a lead balloon. The 2 people sat next to me didn't even bother watching. They only turned up at 9pm when Noel came on. Can't say Blossoms went over too well over here either. It's weird. Blossoms are as big as an up and coming indie band gets in the UK. They're new album will almost certainly hit number 1 this week. I'm not a huge fan, but Tom Ogden (the frontman) is a decent songwriter and knows how to come up with a catchy hook.
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Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 8:43:50 GMT -5
Personally I loved most of the new solo stuff live, probably far more than the Oasis tracks he played (as they would be far down on my most loved tracks list anyway). It was just strange hearing it sound so great, and witnessing a lifeless, subdued audience listening to it, appearing mostly static throughout. Whatever Noel's intentions are with his choice of track list and new direction, I doubt he will want to witness too much of this reaction in all the venues he plays at. Maybe Brighton wasn't the right location, and things may get more lively when he plays up north. Exactly, if it's sounding that great, then its possibly more a question of inadequacy of the audience to the band than anything else. I also think that he's possibly not enjoying this reaction either, and far less the 'Liam-heckling' windheads. And this is my fear, because I for once like the new songs and couldn't care less for the oasis songs he chooses to play or not. This is me being selfish, yes, allow me to it. Everyone else going to any NG gig for the sole purpose of reliving the past is way more selfish and it is unfair for the artist also. Noel looks like he's enjoying himself just fine. He doesn't care.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 9:01:47 GMT -5
YSee definitely improved the song. Noel even made a quip beforehand, something along the lines about her making a shit song sound great, which I thought was a bit telling. The Right Stuff laser show was awesome, but again the song just didn't seem to play well to the crowd. It appeared obvious at the end of the gig that they wanted more Oasis, less solo. During those songs it was the only time the crowd appeared animated. I understand the need for Noel to promote his solo stuff too, particularly the new album, but it did feel a bit like there was too much of that, and not enough old tracks to keep the crowd entertained enough. I think he could drop one of Dream On/Ballad Of The Mighty I for an Oasis song and it would probably solve that little issue. But he's playing 6 big Oasis tunes, and it seems some are complaining that's not enough, yet others are complaining they're not the right ones. The 2 Oasis tracks that didn't appear to go down that well were TIOBI and GLIO. Substitute these 2 for more classic tracks from the first 3 albums and I think that would resolve the issue I saw last night.
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Post by bogaloo on Apr 23, 2018 9:07:32 GMT -5
Exactly, if it's sounding that great, then its possibly more a question of inadequacy of the audience to the band than anything else. I also think that he's possibly not enjoying this reaction either, and far less the 'Liam-heckling' windheads. And this is my fear, because I for once like the new songs and couldn't care less for the oasis songs he chooses to play or not. This is me being selfish, yes, allow me to it. Everyone else going to any NG gig for the sole purpose of reliving the past is way more selfish and it is unfair for the artist also. Noel looks like he's enjoying himself just fine. He doesn't care. I selfishly hope you are right 😉
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 9:17:11 GMT -5
Personally I loved most of the new solo stuff live, probably far more than the Oasis tracks he played (as they would be far down on my most loved tracks list anyway). It was just strange hearing it sound so great, and witnessing a lifeless, subdued audience listening to it, appearing mostly static throughout. Whatever Noel's intentions are with his choice of track list and new direction, I doubt he will want to witness too much of this reaction in all the venues he plays at. Maybe Brighton wasn't the right location, and things may get more lively when he plays up north. Exactly, if it's sounding that great, then its possibly more a question of inadequacy of the audience to the band than anything else. I also think that he's possibly not enjoying this reaction either, and far less the 'Liam-heckling' windheads. And this is my fear, because I for once like the new songs and couldn't care less for the oasis songs he chooses to play or not. This is me being selfish, yes, allow me to it. Everyone else going to any NG gig for the sole purpose of reliving the past is way more selfish and it is unfair for the artist also. There was a Liam-heckling twat last night which Noel kept calling out at the front of the crowd. Noel kept saying to him `Chant my name! Chant my name!' It's twats like that which made me want to attend a Noel gig rather than a Liam gig.
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Post by lau on Apr 23, 2018 9:33:35 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/23/noel-gallagher-high-flying-birds-review-brighton-centre?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FwtoR+%28The+Guardian+World+News%29Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds review – anti-nostalgia set doesn't look back in anger 4 / 5 stars Brighton Centre Unlike his brother, Gallagher Sr mostly refuses straightforward Oasis renditions, and instead embraces electronic drones, dance-rock and saxophones As Noel Gallagher departs the stage at the end of his UK tour’s first date, he tells the audience to get home safely and that he’ll see them soon. “Probably at some shitty festival,” he adds. “We’ll be third on the bill. Fucking travesty.” It’s clearly meant as a joke, but there’s a certain edge to it. The last six months have been a curious period in Gallagher’s career. He released Who Built the Moon?, by some considerable distance the most interesting album he’s made since the mid-90s, and the sort of record he’s been threatening to make ever since Oasis split up. A collaboration with dance producer, DJ and soundtrack composer David Holmes, it pushed Gallagher out of his comfort zone of mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references into more colourful and spacier territory: it touches on ambient electronica, New Order’s shimmering dance-rock hybrid, easy listening, and the sonically super-saturated glam of Roy Wood’s Wizzard. For his trouble, he’s been bested commercially by his brother’s debut solo album As You Were, on which pop songwriters-for-hire were drafted into the aforementioned comfort zone: mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references abound. Perhaps the problem is that Noel should have made Who Built the Moon? 20 years ago. If you spend decades dealing in more of the same, that’s what people come to expect of you – they’re bound to react coolly when you suddenly start breaking out the trombone and the French spoken-word interludes from Charlotte Marionneau (formerly of My Bloody Valentine-affiliated experimentalists Le Volume Courbe), who’s also spotted at one juncture using a pair of scissors as percussion. till, better late than never, and there’s something pleasingly bullish both about the sound of High Flying Birds – simultaneously expansive and powerful, not least on the brass-assisted Keep on Reaching, which feels like the work of a band rather than backing musicians – and about the show’s implicit suggestion that his audience can very much like his new direction or lump it. While his brother comes onstage to Oasis’ old intro music and immediately starts clobbering them with the contents of Definitely Maybe, Gallagher Sr’s appearance is preceded by a lengthy passage of electronic drone, his set opens with the Screamadelica-ish near-instrumental Fort Knox and proceeds through four songs in a row from Who Built the Moon? Wonderwall and Don’t Look Back in Anger aside, it steps lightly around Oasis’ big hits, concentrating instead on previous moments from Gallagher’s solo oeuvre when he pushed more gently against his self-imposed boundaries: the sax-heavy Riverman, the house-influenced AKA… What a Life! Occasionally, when he does dip into the Oasis catalogue, it acts as an intriguing study in contrasts. Half the World Away is still fantastic, but a trudge through Little By Little serves to remind you of what you’re not missing. It goes down a storm, but it feels leaden next to She Taught Me How to Fly’s breezy sparkle or the propulsive honk of Holy Mountain. There’s the sense of a man slogging away trying to recapture the inspiration that propelled Oasis to the top in the first place, versus the sound of man who seems genuinely inspired once more, powered by something other than nostalgia for Oasis’ mid-90s moment in the sun.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 10:20:07 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/23/noel-gallagher-high-flying-birds-review-brighton-centre?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FwtoR+%28The+Guardian+World+News%29Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds review – anti-nostalgia set doesn't look back in anger 4 / 5 stars Brighton Centre Unlike his brother, Gallagher Sr mostly refuses straightforward Oasis renditions, and instead embraces electronic drones, dance-rock and saxophones As Noel Gallagher departs the stage at the end of his UK tour’s first date, he tells the audience to get home safely and that he’ll see them soon. “Probably at some shitty festival,” he adds. “We’ll be third on the bill. Fucking travesty.” It’s clearly meant as a joke, but there’s a certain edge to it. The last six months have been a curious period in Gallagher’s career. He released Who Built the Moon?, by some considerable distance the most interesting album he’s made since the mid-90s, and the sort of record he’s been threatening to make ever since Oasis split up. A collaboration with dance producer, DJ and soundtrack composer David Holmes, it pushed Gallagher out of his comfort zone of mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references into more colourful and spacier territory: it touches on ambient electronica, New Order’s shimmering dance-rock hybrid, easy listening, and the sonically super-saturated glam of Roy Wood’s Wizzard. For his trouble, he’s been bested commercially by his brother’s debut solo album As You Were, on which pop songwriters-for-hire were drafted into the aforementioned comfort zone: mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references abound. Perhaps the problem is that Noel should have made Who Built the Moon? 20 years ago. If you spend decades dealing in more of the same, that’s what people come to expect of you – they’re bound to react coolly when you suddenly start breaking out the trombone and the French spoken-word interludes from Charlotte Marionneau (formerly of My Bloody Valentine-affiliated experimentalists Le Volume Courbe), who’s also spotted at one juncture using a pair of scissors as percussion. till, better late than never, and there’s something pleasingly bullish both about the sound of High Flying Birds – simultaneously expansive and powerful, not least on the brass-assisted Keep on Reaching, which feels like the work of a band rather than backing musicians – and about the show’s implicit suggestion that his audience can very much like his new direction or lump it. While his brother comes onstage to Oasis’ old intro music and immediately starts clobbering them with the contents of Definitely Maybe, Gallagher Sr’s appearance is preceded by a lengthy passage of electronic drone, his set opens with the Screamadelica-ish near-instrumental Fort Knox and proceeds through four songs in a row from Who Built the Moon? Wonderwall and Don’t Look Back in Anger aside, it steps lightly around Oasis’ big hits, concentrating instead on previous moments from Gallagher’s solo oeuvre when he pushed more gently against his self-imposed boundaries: the sax-heavy Riverman, the house-influenced AKA… What a Life! Occasionally, when he does dip into the Oasis catalogue, it acts as an intriguing study in contrasts. Half the World Away is still fantastic, but a trudge through Little By Little serves to remind you of what you’re not missing. It goes down a storm, but it feels leaden next to She Taught Me How to Fly’s breezy sparkle or the propulsive honk of Holy Mountain. There’s the sense of a man slogging away trying to recapture the inspiration that propelled Oasis to the top in the first place, versus the sound of man who seems genuinely inspired once more, powered by something other than nostalgia for Oasis’ mid-90s moment in the sun. This review is pretty much spot on. The only thing I will add is regarding the final comment. The man slogging it away trying to recapture Oasis (Liam) appears to be winning over a whole new generation of youth because of it, by the sounds of Liam's gigs. The kids are identifying with Liam, and he is tapping into that. Whereas this is something Noel isn't doing at the moment. The youth are not on his side, and the mature audience who are still with Noel are caught between wanting him to go in a new direction, or wanting him to stay faithful to his 90's glory days.
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Post by bogaloo on Apr 23, 2018 11:11:09 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/23/noel-gallagher-high-flying-birds-review-brighton-centre?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FwtoR+%28The+Guardian+World+News%29Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds review – anti-nostalgia set doesn't look back in anger 4 / 5 stars Brighton Centre Unlike his brother, Gallagher Sr mostly refuses straightforward Oasis renditions, and instead embraces electronic drones, dance-rock and saxophones As Noel Gallagher departs the stage at the end of his UK tour’s first date, he tells the audience to get home safely and that he’ll see them soon. “Probably at some shitty festival,” he adds. “We’ll be third on the bill. Fucking travesty.” It’s clearly meant as a joke, but there’s a certain edge to it. The last six months have been a curious period in Gallagher’s career. He released Who Built the Moon?, by some considerable distance the most interesting album he’s made since the mid-90s, and the sort of record he’s been threatening to make ever since Oasis split up. A collaboration with dance producer, DJ and soundtrack composer David Holmes, it pushed Gallagher out of his comfort zone of mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references into more colourful and spacier territory: it touches on ambient electronica, New Order’s shimmering dance-rock hybrid, easy listening, and the sonically super-saturated glam of Roy Wood’s Wizzard. For his trouble, he’s been bested commercially by his brother’s debut solo album As You Were, on which pop songwriters-for-hire were drafted into the aforementioned comfort zone: mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references abound. Perhaps the problem is that Noel should have made Who Built the Moon? 20 years ago. If you spend decades dealing in more of the same, that’s what people come to expect of you – they’re bound to react coolly when you suddenly start breaking out the trombone and the French spoken-word interludes from Charlotte Marionneau (formerly of My Bloody Valentine-affiliated experimentalists Le Volume Courbe), who’s also spotted at one juncture using a pair of scissors as percussion. till, better late than never, and there’s something pleasingly bullish both about the sound of High Flying Birds – simultaneously expansive and powerful, not least on the brass-assisted Keep on Reaching, which feels like the work of a band rather than backing musicians – and about the show’s implicit suggestion that his audience can very much like his new direction or lump it. While his brother comes onstage to Oasis’ old intro music and immediately starts clobbering them with the contents of Definitely Maybe, Gallagher Sr’s appearance is preceded by a lengthy passage of electronic drone, his set opens with the Screamadelica-ish near-instrumental Fort Knox and proceeds through four songs in a row from Who Built the Moon? Wonderwall and Don’t Look Back in Anger aside, it steps lightly around Oasis’ big hits, concentrating instead on previous moments from Gallagher’s solo oeuvre when he pushed more gently against his self-imposed boundaries: the sax-heavy Riverman, the house-influenced AKA… What a Life! Occasionally, when he does dip into the Oasis catalogue, it acts as an intriguing study in contrasts. Half the World Away is still fantastic, but a trudge through Little By Little serves to remind you of what you’re not missing. It goes down a storm, but it feels leaden next to She Taught Me How to Fly’s breezy sparkle or the propulsive honk of Holy Mountain. There’s the sense of a man slogging away trying to recapture the inspiration that propelled Oasis to the top in the first place, versus the sound of man who seems genuinely inspired once more, powered by something other than nostalgia for Oasis’ mid-90s moment in the sun. This review is pretty much spot on. The only thing I will add is regarding the final comment. The man slogging it away trying to recapture Oasis (Liam) appears to be winning over a whole new generation of youth because of it, by the sounds of Liam's gigs. The kids are identifying with Liam, and he is tapping into that. Whereas this is something Noel isn't doing at the moment. The youth are not on his side, and the mature audience who are still with Noel are caught between wanting him to go in a new direction, or wanting him to stay faithful to his 90's glory days. Yeah, and they're right about the 20 years delay. Regarding kids relying on Liam for back to basics rock n roll, I'd pity any generation that have to rely on a 45 year-old to teach them this path, and don't take it as a dig on Liam, please. Regarding the mature audience, I'd happily discard those who are not interested, and I can only hope Noel is too. Hopefully someone else may come along, give it time.
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Post by dampcottage on Apr 23, 2018 11:48:43 GMT -5
Seems that a lot of people would like to see a few more oasis tunes added to the set, honestly when I woke up the morning after seeing noel in paris the very first thing I thought was I cant wait until he does a tour with absolutely no oasis
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Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 11:57:01 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/23/noel-gallagher-high-flying-birds-review-brighton-centre?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FwtoR+%28The+Guardian+World+News%29Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds review – anti-nostalgia set doesn't look back in anger 4 / 5 stars Brighton Centre Unlike his brother, Gallagher Sr mostly refuses straightforward Oasis renditions, and instead embraces electronic drones, dance-rock and saxophones As Noel Gallagher departs the stage at the end of his UK tour’s first date, he tells the audience to get home safely and that he’ll see them soon. “Probably at some shitty festival,” he adds. “We’ll be third on the bill. Fucking travesty.” It’s clearly meant as a joke, but there’s a certain edge to it. The last six months have been a curious period in Gallagher’s career. He released Who Built the Moon?, by some considerable distance the most interesting album he’s made since the mid-90s, and the sort of record he’s been threatening to make ever since Oasis split up. A collaboration with dance producer, DJ and soundtrack composer David Holmes, it pushed Gallagher out of his comfort zone of mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references into more colourful and spacier territory: it touches on ambient electronica, New Order’s shimmering dance-rock hybrid, easy listening, and the sonically super-saturated glam of Roy Wood’s Wizzard. For his trouble, he’s been bested commercially by his brother’s debut solo album As You Were, on which pop songwriters-for-hire were drafted into the aforementioned comfort zone: mid-tempo anthems and Beatles references abound. Perhaps the problem is that Noel should have made Who Built the Moon? 20 years ago. If you spend decades dealing in more of the same, that’s what people come to expect of you – they’re bound to react coolly when you suddenly start breaking out the trombone and the French spoken-word interludes from Charlotte Marionneau (formerly of My Bloody Valentine-affiliated experimentalists Le Volume Courbe), who’s also spotted at one juncture using a pair of scissors as percussion. till, better late than never, and there’s something pleasingly bullish both about the sound of High Flying Birds – simultaneously expansive and powerful, not least on the brass-assisted Keep on Reaching, which feels like the work of a band rather than backing musicians – and about the show’s implicit suggestion that his audience can very much like his new direction or lump it. While his brother comes onstage to Oasis’ old intro music and immediately starts clobbering them with the contents of Definitely Maybe, Gallagher Sr’s appearance is preceded by a lengthy passage of electronic drone, his set opens with the Screamadelica-ish near-instrumental Fort Knox and proceeds through four songs in a row from Who Built the Moon? Wonderwall and Don’t Look Back in Anger aside, it steps lightly around Oasis’ big hits, concentrating instead on previous moments from Gallagher’s solo oeuvre when he pushed more gently against his self-imposed boundaries: the sax-heavy Riverman, the house-influenced AKA… What a Life! Occasionally, when he does dip into the Oasis catalogue, it acts as an intriguing study in contrasts. Half the World Away is still fantastic, but a trudge through Little By Little serves to remind you of what you’re not missing. It goes down a storm, but it feels leaden next to She Taught Me How to Fly’s breezy sparkle or the propulsive honk of Holy Mountain. There’s the sense of a man slogging away trying to recapture the inspiration that propelled Oasis to the top in the first place, versus the sound of man who seems genuinely inspired once more, powered by something other than nostalgia for Oasis’ mid-90s moment in the sun. This review is pretty much spot on. The only thing I will add is regarding the final comment. The man slogging it away trying to recapture Oasis (Liam) appears to be winning over a whole new generation of youth because of it, by the sounds of Liam's gigs. The kids are identifying with Liam, and he is tapping into that.Whereas this is something Noel isn't doing at the moment. The youth are not on his side, and the mature audience who are still with Noel are caught between wanting him to go in a new direction, or wanting him to stay faithful to his 90's glory days. As one of those 'new generation' of fans, I have to disagree here. Liam isn't 'winning over' anyone. He hasn't had to. The new generation of fans were into Oasis before Liam came back, and what has set the stage for Liam to do so well is because this generation - my generation - needs a proper, out-and-out rock and roll star. It's sad that ultimately the closest we've got is one that was in his prime 20 years ago. Liam has tapped into that brilliantly because he is the man. He's the frontman of the band that my generation have to look to as the biggest British band because we don't have one ourselves. There's always been plenty of younger people at Noel's gigs. No, it obviously won't be to the extent that there are now at Liam's, but that's in the main because of Oasis' impact on British youth culture in the last 20 years, not Liam himself (as good as he is live, as good as the album is).
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Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 12:00:54 GMT -5
This review is pretty much spot on. The only thing I will add is regarding the final comment. The man slogging it away trying to recapture Oasis (Liam) appears to be winning over a whole new generation of youth because of it, by the sounds of Liam's gigs. The kids are identifying with Liam, and he is tapping into that. Whereas this is something Noel isn't doing at the moment. The youth are not on his side, and the mature audience who are still with Noel are caught between wanting him to go in a new direction, or wanting him to stay faithful to his 90's glory days. Yeah, and they're right about the 20 years delay. Regarding kids relying on Liam for back to basics rock n roll, I'd pity any generation that have to rely on a 45 year-old to teach them this path, and don't take it as a dig on Liam, please.
Regarding the mature audience, I'd happily discard those who are not interested, and I can only hope Noel is too. Hopefully someone else may come along, give it time. This 110% I love Liam. I've seen him twice already and I am going to Finsbury. But he isn't the reason that Oasis are suddenly 'the' band. The reason is because in the last I'd say five or six years, people my age (so early 20s through to 15ish) have had their musical 'awakening' as everybody does at that age. But the difference is there is no big British rock/pop band to - and I stress, band - to hold the mantle. The generation before has the Arctics and Kasabian and yes, while those bands do translate over, I don't think anybody my age can claim them to be our 'own', just like 20 year olds in 2005 couldn't claim Oasis to be theirs either.
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Post by AppleScruff on Apr 23, 2018 14:31:44 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert. The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome. I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. This was how large parts of the crowd seemed to me in Amsterdam too. I was standing quite close to the front but taking a look around the arena at times, I couldn’t believe how subdued the crowd were
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Post by AppleScruff on Apr 23, 2018 14:39:38 GMT -5
Can't say Blossoms went over too well over here either. It's weird. Blossoms are as big as an up and coming indie band gets in the UK. They're new album will almost certainly hit number 1 this week. I'm not a huge fan, but Tom Ogden (the frontman) is a decent songwriter and knows how to come up with a catchy hook. As a big fan of Blossoms I thought they were great. They did pull a good sized crowd in Amsterdam compared to your average support act. Speaking to a few English couples the day after they thought they were a bit “poppy” though and the 80s inspired sound of their new stuff won’t be for everyone. They played 4 new songs in a 30 minute set so that might not have helped. Definitely a band going places though IMO and Liam could do much worse than let Tom Ogden write him a banger!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 23, 2018 16:00:09 GMT -5
It's weird. Blossoms are as big as an up and coming indie band gets in the UK. They're new album will almost certainly hit number 1 this week. I'm not a huge fan, but Tom Ogden (the frontman) is a decent songwriter and knows how to come up with a catchy hook. As a big fan of Blossoms I thought they were great. They did pull a good sized crowd in Amsterdam compared to your average support act. Speaking to a few English couples the day after they thought they were a bit “poppy” though and the 80s inspired sound of their new stuff won’t be for everyone. They played 4 new songs in a 30 minute set so that might not have helped. Definitely a band going places though IMO and Liam could do much worse than let Tom Ogden write him a banger! Charlemagne was somewhat of a hit over here, but otherwise they're not well known at all. I (and people around me) also thought the sound was crap.
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Post by World71R on Apr 23, 2018 17:26:35 GMT -5
As a big fan of Blossoms I thought they were great. They did pull a good sized crowd in Amsterdam compared to your average support act. Speaking to a few English couples the day after they thought they were a bit “poppy” though and the 80s inspired sound of their new stuff won’t be for everyone. They played 4 new songs in a 30 minute set so that might not have helped. Definitely a band going places though IMO and Liam could do much worse than let Tom Ogden write him a banger! Charlemagne was somewhat of a hit over here, but otherwise they're not well known at all. I (and people around me) also thought the sound was crap. Charlemagne is a good tune, well-written and a nice mix of rough '90s rock and '80s synth pop, kind of a modern vibe, but that's the only stand out tune of theirs I can think of.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Apr 23, 2018 19:12:33 GMT -5
Still gutted he's not playing The Man Who Built The Moon.
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Post by bogaloo on Apr 24, 2018 2:22:42 GMT -5
Still gutted he's not playing The Man Who Built The Moon. Possibly he will, I'd guess its just a question of doing the song justice, it seems not to be an easy song to translate live. He probably needs a chorus to do the overdubbed vocals and something else to "fill" the sound. Maybe at some special occasion with adicional guests, who knows?
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